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Kate Hunter Julia and Tony? Youve lost me.

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BY KATE HUNTER

The way Julia Gillard tells it, she had no idea she would become Prime Minister on June 24, 2010. The opportunity came up and apparently she thought, ‘Well, it hadn’t crossed my mind, but I’ll give it crack.’

Well of course she did. It was the Prime Ministership, not the last Tim Tam in the staff fridge. Wouldn’t you grab it with both hands?

Maybe, maybe not. I’m no  political expert. Most of the time, I’m not even an enthusiast. But this disturbs me, mainly because I don’t believe it. The Prime Minister inexplicably granted an interview to ABC’s Four Corners which aired on Monday night, reliving the months leading up to the spill which claimed the scalp of then PM Kevin Rudd. It was mostly unremarkable television until the squirm-worthy moment when the PM was put on the spot.

Did she know about the impending coup? Did she see the damaging polling that showed her popularity as PM ahead of Rudd?

She dodged, skipped and ducked the repeated questioning. It was uncomfortable. And that moment set in motion a chain of events that would, like a picked thread, begin to unravel her leadership credibility. There were claims she personally lobbied for Rudd’s removal. Personally handed around that damaging polling. Personally helped draft that speech she delivered when he was rolled.

And still she stood firm and said she never intended to take the job until the day it happened.

As Annabel Crabb tweeted so eloquently during the game-changing 4 Corners program on Monday night:

Annabel Crabb 380x68 Julia and Tony? Youve lost me.

Quite.

And not believing is the crux of my problem. I wanted to believe Julia Gillard was different. That she would try new ways of solving gnarly old problems. I’d hoped having a shacked up atheist in The Lodge would loosen things up. I know it hasn’t been easy for her, what with a hung parliament at all, but I feel let down and confused.

So what happens next? The Labor party seems to be unlikely to sponsor Kevin, The Comeback Tour. Even the most daring bookie wouldn’t take a bet on Gillard, so that leaves me looking at … Tony Abbott.

Let me say here that I’m the ultimate swinging voter. I’ll be voting for my local member (Labor) in the Queensland state election because I think she does a good job and because I’ve seen her at Woollies at 8pm. Not campaigning, shopping. I think she’s the real deal.

Julia Gillard Tele 380x552 Julia and Tony? Youve lost me.

The way Ms Gillard's Prime Ministership was first reported

My husband and I often cancel each other out on polling day. I have no allegiance to any party. If a Federal election were held tomorrow, I don’t know which way I’d go. But I’d sure be sweating over my ballot form more than Julia Gillard says she did over taking Rudd’s gig.

Labor in the Lodge has lost me. They’ve only had me erratically but now, I just couldn’t do it. But I’ve got another dilemma – I can’t cop Tony Abbott.

I know, I know … I don’t vote directly for the PM, but I care who’s leader of our country. And I vote not on policy but on character (not to be confused with personality). Policy changes with the polls.

I no longer know who belongs to which policy. Border Protection, The Malaysia Solution, Mandatory Detention. The whole thing has degenerated into a preschool blame game, ‘She stole our idea!’

‘Did not!’

‘Did so.’

‘Yeah well. We’re not going to play any more so how do you like that?’

So I can’t vote Labor and I won’t go for Abbott. He seems like a defensive tennis player – waiting for his opponent to try something brave and fail. I’m sure he’s very intelligent and if I sat next to him at a wedding no doubt I’d have a top time, but the lacquer of leadership is too thin and too new. I still see the old Tony -the anti-abortion, anti gay marriage, anti-everything Tony. It makes me feel anti-Tony.

But let’s imagine Malcolm Turnbull was on the posters. Well, Liberal Party, we should talk.

I had forgotten about Malcolm until I saw him on Q&A late last year. He seems like a man with brains, backbone and heart. He doesn’t need politics for power, money or profile. He’s run big businesses and what is a country if not that?

But what I really love was that he stuck with a policy even though it probably cost him the leadership. Some said he showed poor judgment. I thought it was integrity.

Could Malcolm lead the Liberals? Would they get rid of Tony? Seems unlikely – I suspect Gillard has dug the ALP hole so deep Kyle Sandilands could beat them.

So, what to do? Thankfully, an election won’t be called tomorrow. There’s still time to try to work out who stands for what. But geez I wish they’d make it easier.

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197 Comments so far

  1. amd

    I, like the majority, do no trust Ms Gillard. I won’t vote for the virgin-loving Catholic either, neither do I trust him to keep his religion and his backwards views on women out of our political system. So, if these are our choices, it will be neither of the above for me coming polling time.

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  2. EB

    I think it is funny that a lot of the comments here said that they will vote for the Liberals if Turnbull is the leader! We should be voting based on the policies of the political party rather than the individual. We are not a republic and we are not voting for a president here in Australia. Even if Turnbull is the leader of the Liberal party, he does not get to have a say on all the policies of the Libs. It is the Liberal Party’s policies, not his alone! So for all Turnbull lovers, are you saying that you support the Liberal policies?

    Also, for Greens voters, do you realize that votes for the Greens go to the Labor Party at the end? And do you really understand the Greens policies? If you actually look into it, you will realize they are very radical and will ruin this country!

    Whether it is Gillard or Rudd who is the PM, Australia is in a dire situation as it is the Labor’s policies that are governing this place!!

    I think if more people bother to care about this country and try to understand the actual policies of the political parties, they will realize that Liberal and hence Abbott is the sensible vote to put in for the next election.

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    • katehunter

      EB, my point (and maybe I wasn’t clear enough) is, I don’t trust policies because they seem to change every 10 minutes, or with every poll, whichever comes first. It never used to be like this. A leader’s character (as opposed to personality) is what it is and it’s more reliable than policy.

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  3. Zoe

    I was brought up in what has to be one of the most staunchly Labor households in Australia, but if Malcolm Turnbull was still leader of the Libs I would vote Liberal in a second. He is amazing and embodies what a leader should be, in my opinion. At the moment I would probably just donkey vote because I’m sick of the lot of them, Australian politics is a joke and an embarrassment.

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    • Lela

      Zoe; 100% agree – are you my sister… I could have written exactly what you have written!
      We are at a golden moment as a country, and we need a leader with vision and principles.

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  4. TwoDogs

    How quickly we forget how under whelming Malcolm Turnbull was when he was the opposoition leader.

    Tony Abbott was the leader that smashed Rudd and is now doing the same to Juliar Dullard – 55-45 Morgan Poll two-party preferred.

    It seems the majority think he’s is doing all right……

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    • Zoe

      That just means people prefer him over Gillard though, right? Because it’s a choice between two duds as far as I’m concerned, I could say I “preferred” one over the other but I think they’re both pretty terrible.

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  5. Minimagic77

    Tanya Pilbersek for Labor Leader. Saw her speak recently. She presented with good grace, humor, conviction and intelligence… All that’s lacking in my eyes in JG and TA.
    I’m going to reluctantly bury my head in the sand while Tony Abbott wins the next election and then leads the country as PM. Fingers crossed Labor gets their s**t together, reflects and refreshes, and takes office again within the next 10 years. Maybe then I’ll be able to finally marry my beautiful partner before we’re both too old to walk down the aisle :)

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  6. amity

    You have summed up how I feel exactly Kate. Either way you go it’s lose lose.

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  7. Angela Mollard

    Turnbull is intellectually AND emotionally smart. And he has a smart wife. And he’s principled. And he lost weight by, hey, “eating less”. Which almost makes him God. It’ll be the death knell of the ALP if he becomes leader of the Libs.

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  8. Flutterby

    Well, feel for us up in Queensland….we do have an election coming up at the state level in a month and I don’t want to vote for either party.

    I’m a big fat lefty usually, but Anna lost me when she made bad decision after bad. She should have gone to the polls after the flood.

    Then there’s Campbell and I was so excited because he seemed dynamic….until he said his policy was to mine near the wild rivers. Cos, you know, mines NEVER have problems with pollution…..

    You’ll laugh when I say this, but Bob Katter’s new party is even appealing. Why? Because they allow conscience votes.

    At the federal level, I agree, I had a lot more time for Malcolm Turnbull.

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  9. roserusso

    Great article Kate! I feel like I’m having a conversation with you over a cuppa, which is the best feeling to have to connect with the writer. I think you’re fabulous.

    I wouldn’t vote for either of them either. I’m the ultimate swinging voter. I really don’t think there’s anyone with integrity in politics these days. The only person I truly warm to is Sarah Hanson-Young, probably because we’re around the same age and she stands for the things I believe in.

    But yes I’m disillusioned and have no fucking clue who I’d vote for if an election was held tomorrow.

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  10. ladybird

    I teach grade 6 kids and we’re currently studying parliament and democracy. I’ve split my class into proportionary parties ( about even Labor and Liberal/National, half again of Greens and a couple of independents, best I could do with a small co-hort) in preparation for a mock parliament. Yesterday, I asked them, as parties, to research what their party policies are and what they stand for. The Labor party was spot on, as were the greens. The Liberal party couldn’t name one policy after their research but through that research could name about 8 different ways Labor has ‘stuffed up’. I thought it was really interesting that the information from the media and their website (within a short period of research, about 1 hour), the Libs can only say what the other party stuffed up (the actual words). It was a great lesson for me (although being politically neutral is important in a classroom and so it wasn’t a point I dwelled onwith the kids!) It’ll be interesting again in weeks to come.

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    • mark

      Ladybird – The problem most people ( your students included) are having is the quality of journalism today. There is a group think that is forcing all the media to report the same thing. None of them report on the Liberals policies – not because there arent there , just because they dont want to. I thought i would test the theory. Googled “Australian Liberal party policies” and there they were.You might want to work on the class in forms of information gathering before moving onto parliament and political parties.

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      • katehunter

        Mark, I think it’s the constant polling that clouds things. There’s always someone winning and someone losing. It’s easy news. As Bern says below, the entire term has become a campaign.

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      • ladybird

        Mmmmm, perhaps you’re right and I certainly discuss critical media with my students, they were however unable to easily find policy information on the Liberal party website, but were able to find how Labor stuffed up…just found it interesting that that was the first information discovered when they mainly visited the Liberal party website.

        We certainly also spend a lot of time on information gathering, varying search terms and the validity of what we read on the internet, in newspapers and hear on the news.

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  11. bernadettemorley

    Bloody spot on Kate.

    I too swing. Naively I still just want a party to be elected that you know, just runs the FECKING country. One that makes the interests of ALL Australians their priority. Regardless of race, religion, sexual orientation etc etc.

    So much infighting, debating about irrelevant bullshit and not enough time spent on health, education, housing, the homeless, mental health, aged care, equal rights. I know it’s not that simple. I know there are factors at play we aren’t aware of but I don’t care. I just want them all to define what they stand for, then we can vote based on that. THEN I want them to get on with doing that. Not campaigning for the next election for their entire term INSTEAD of doing what they have been elected to do. Run the country.

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    • Mummahen

      HERE HERE bernadette. I’m sure they ARE doing things but we never hear about it in the papers …. I wish Australian Journalism would grow up and stop the muck raking – lets focus on whats being done, or NOT done, then I’d feel like a more informed voter

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  12. AJS

    Bob Brown for PM!

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  13. girly

    I wouldn’t vote for Abbott if you paid me. Gillard isn’t much better. All Abbott seems to do is bad mouth everything labor says and doesn’t actually tell me what liberal are going to do!!

    You’re damned if you do and you’re damned if you don’t.

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  14. rainbow

    i don’t watch the news, i don’t read the opinion pieces or even watch any political talk shows. if i did that i would be totally disillusioned.

    what i do is read about actual political facts. i like what julia is doing. i like that families on very high incomes are no longer get private rebate. i think the fact that the labor party are making really significant change is good ie. the carbon tax.

    seriously if you are a disillusioned labor voter, try doing it. don’t read any articles about bloody rudd, don’t for gods sake open any rupert owned media and you will suddenly realise they are doing a good job, within the means of a hung parliament.

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    • gee jen

      Where do you find these actual political facts? (seriously where is the best place to look??)

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      • rainbow

        i only read the ABC news and don’t even bother with their opinion pieces, just read about what laws they have passed and what their policies are. i don’t read the guff around it, just what is actually being achieved.

        i keep my blinkers in, there is so much leadership speculation crap that could all be coming from the libs or the media, much of it may be fabricated to detract from the good that gillard is doing. i know lib supporters won’t agree with this, but i am a strong supporter of labor values (this is my strongly held personal beliefs, i grew up in a very strong liberal household, worlds biggest joh howard supporters etc etc), so in order to stay sane this is what i do.

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        • gee jen

          thanks Rainbow

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  15. dkmum

    Sadly I can’t vote, I’m not an Australian citizen, but gees Kate, I’m right with you. My background is definitely more to the left than the right in terms of Australian politics, but where I’m from the Australian left wing would be considered rather rightwing, if that all makes sense.

    In short, I too feel that Malcolm Turnbull offers the most integrity of the bunch. Which is kind of sad to think about.

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  16. Bev

    I am so glad there isn’t a federal election tomorrow too. When you look at the leaders of the major parties, neither Ms Gillard or Mr Abbott fill me with any confidence. I did like Mr Rudd but no matter what anyone says, there is no way he will be put up for leadership of the Labor Party. The ones who would vote him in as leader were the same ones who voted him out in the first place and we all know that if he got back in, who would lose their jobs first… I know you vote for your local member in a federal election. I have approached my local member (albeit on facebook) who happens to be a Liberal party member and asked if he would canvas the electorate for their opinion on marriage equality as Mr Turnbull (a fellow Liberal party member) did. He flatly refused saying that he already knew our opinion. When asked him a second time, he refused and got pissy with me. Then when I said that I wouldn’t vote for him in the next election, he told me that he didn’t care. So long story short.. no…I have no idea how I will vote either.

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  17. Cathy Crawley

    I too would vote for Malcolm. I like the fact that a self made multi millionaire might want to lead our country. He is clearly good at business, has great money skills and unlike many in office he clearly doesn’t need the money, nor would he be doing it for the government perks. It appears he just wants to make the country a better place.

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  18. kiwichick

    i don’t think there is a single politician in australia who is actually telling the truth about the challenges we face

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  19. Bryter

    “I suspect Gillard has dug the ALP hole so deep Kyle Sandilands could beat them.”

    Great line, Kate!

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    • kiwichick

      time will tell

      which is why the mad monk is desperate for an early election

      and just on bob brown as pm obviously most australians have forgotten that he introduced a bill to control gun ownership years before the port arthur massacre

      and they were right about iraq

      and of course they are right about both climate change and peak oil

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  20. Jo

    Many of my friends have no interest in politics whatsoever. Seems they either voted for Julia because shes a woman or the Green cos that means saving the planet right? What p*sses me off is their intentional ignorance and apathy is not unique and contributed to this useless govt being elected. *rant over*

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    • An Idle Dad

      Be consoled that for every voter who votes Green because it means saving the planet, and every voter who votes Labor because Gillard is a women, that vote is cancelled out by a voter who votes Liberal because brown people arriving by boats will overrun over society.

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  21. redqueen

    I’d rather cop a fine than vote next election. Seriously.

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  22. Bassbassgirl

    Have always voted labor, greens or democrats. Will not be this time around. Can’t stand Tony Abbot, but if the Libs bought back Turnbull I would vote for him in a heartbeat. As it stands I see no choice but to vote for an independent.

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  23. LM

    To be honest Kate, you don’t sound like a swinging voter to me. Much more like a very disenchanted Labor voter. And to vote for your local member because he/she shops at Woolies….?!!

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    • katehunter

      Actually it wouldn’t have made any difference if she shopped at Coles or Aldi for that matter ;-) I just think she’s a hardworking (Labor) MP who does an excellent job. I’m equally enamoured of our local Councillor who happens to be a dyed in the wool Liberal.

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      • Kitten

        I sure hope you’re talking about Kate because I sure don’t want Campbell! Lesser of two evils, etc etc.

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  24. D

    Can I offer something here, that our political leaders duck and weave because the media is obsessed with castigating Julia for taking the leadership when my memory of the situation at the time was that the media was calling for Rudd to be dumped. From the way I view it I think that the media wants to dictate what happens rather than present the facts and let the public decide for themselves. Quite frankly I can make my own mind up about which political party and which leader should lead the country I don’t need the media to tell me how I should think.

    The fact that the independents don’t appear to trust Abbott or Rudd confirms my suspicions neither can be trusted, the only way I will sway from supporting Julia is if the Liberals change and Malcolm Turnbull becomes leader, he is the one person that can hold his head up high for sticking to his guns.

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    • Rosie

      D – I agree with almost all that you say – except the last thing. Let us not forget that it was Malcolm Turnbull who instigated the “Godwin Grech” fiasco! Trust him? Not after that.

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      • Anonymous

        Voters seem to have such short memories Rosie. KRudd will be back for 2 minutes before we are reminded of why we wanted him gone in the first place. I respect Malcolm but he was far from perfect and had so much difficulty cutting through. But, frankly, I’d be happy with anyone instead of Julia right now!

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        • Susan As Well

          I have to admit I don’t understand the Turnbull lovefest. He doesn’t stand out to me as a preferred prime minister to JG or TA. The history of his political career is on a par with JG’s and TA’s with a mix of good and bad, but nothing that is outstanding apart from good looks and a relaxed, authoritative communication style. He has some good policies but no party to support him.

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          • Rosie

            “Susan-as-Well” – I, too, am concerned about the Turnbull ‘lovefest’. I am concerned that people like him because he looks OK. His policies are Liberal Party policies – the same as Abbott. Being a multi-millionaire does NOT prove to me that he can run a country – it proves to me that he could be ruthless with people who are not as fortunate as him. And he did have an easy start – private school and free university – the same as Abbott.

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    • Guest

      And the independents – particularly Windsor and Oakeshott only remain relevant whilst Julia stays there. They have a huge stake in her prime ministership, and once she goes, so do they. They trust Julia at their peril – Wilkie is testament to that.

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  25. Anonymous

    I can’t get past Abbott’s time as as health minister – I think that revealed the real a**hole he can be. His track record on both truth and consistency during that time was abhorrent. Also, when quoting abortion statistics in his RU486 justification he included miscarriages in his figures which are clearly NOT elective abortions. 2 of those miscarriages were mine Mr Abbott so you can stick your vote where the sun don’t shine. I’m a swinging voter, but will never vote Libs while he is at the helm. The best example of a lapsed Catholic if I’ve ever seen one.

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  26. kateb

    You have read my mind!!! isn’t there someone else? Abbott has too many past statements that i disagree with that are part of his character, Gillard seems to have no idea of PR, and ??? who else. Yes Turnbull looks good but he belongs to a party who let Abbot replace him.

    Cant we start a party called ” I am sick of all the bullshit, i want policies not personalities” i know , I know I am expecting too much

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  27. Anon

    What I don’t understand is that it would have been perfectly acceptable for JG to say ‘I carefully considered the leadership issue and decided to challenge at x point in time as I believe this was the right thing to do for the party and the nation’. Why lie? Why say you decided on the day? The unnecessary lie puzzles me, it makes no sense, there is nothing to gain and everything to lose by looking like a foolish liar.

    Personally I think both major parties are beyond reform and I don’t like the Greens. It’s time for a new party lead by Turnbull : )

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  28. BB

    Just to let you know – Julia Gillard’s interview wasn’t given for an ‘inexplicable’ reason. It became quite well known in the media over the week that Four Corners approached her wanting to talk about ‘the labor party since 2007′. They used 10mins of a 60min interview.

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    • katehunter

      Isn’t that taught in Media Training 101?

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      • BB

        Yes – as many commentators have pointed out this week. I’m not defending her, but it is her job to talk about the government she leads. She’s always accused of not communicating her party’s message, so maybe she saw this as an opportunity. As one commentator said, she should have agreed to 10mins of the requested time so that they only had the time to ask pertinent questions and not gone down the Rudd path – again.

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    • Rick Morton

      Every media advisor worth his or her salt would have realised the type of questions Gillard would have had flung at her. It was in explicable to me!

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      • BB

        I know Rick – if only Julia had an advisor like Abbott does. I forget her name, but she was profiled in The Australian recently and apparently everyone is scared of her, including his wife? No wonder Tony learned to finally shut his mouth in public! (most of the time…)

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        • katehunter

          Fun fact: Tony Abbott was once John Hewson’s media advisor.

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        • Rick Morton

          Oh, his CoS Peta Credlin? Yes! She is tough as nails. I think she was just warned for heckling the PM during question time! What a load of fun this all is…

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          • kiwichick

            and slipper has warned that anybody interjecting from the advisors gallery will be banned for the duration of his speakership

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      • An Idle Dad

        Didn’t he have to quit the other day? I can think of only two options, she only had one so she decided to wing it, or she has forty-two and they all had differnt polls?

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  29. backagain

    Bring back Kevin and just let him finish what he started. I wanted to love Julia, but I don’t. It’s been super disappointing.

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  30. SS

    I agree – no political leader is inspiring me – plus on a truly superficial level their voices are like nails on a blackboard to me!!

    I have always voted liberal but Tony just doesnt cut it for me – too much 1960s views on women and not enough stand up and announce a clear alternative.

    The leader I would really like to see is Peter Costello – tried and trusted with our finances and intelligent.

    If we cant have him then give us Turnbull … or at least Rudd

    My biggest problem is that I work in the aged care industry and the current minister for Mental Health and Ageing is doing a great job and is informed and ready to make changes – I just dont want to vote for Julia to keep him

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    • Loulee

      You know what SS it is great to hear your insight about the Minister doing a great job because we NEVER hear any good news stories about the government. All the media is taken up with stupid, time wasting, trivia… Thanks for your comment.

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  31. tanlee

    As far as I’m concerned the whole leadership thing is just a beat-up. The Australian media has an appalling history of being more concerned with gossip than policy. Seriously, who cares whether it’s Julia or Kevin out the front? I wish everyone would grow up and focus on the issues.

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    • katehunter

      I’d like to concentrate on the issues. But it’s hard to get a clear picture of what the parties’ positions are because it changes all the time. Character is more constant.

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      • Loulee

        Yes thanks Kate I would also love to concentrate on the issues but instead we have to be beaten over the head with trivia about “he said, she said”, “did she, didn’t she”. SS’s comment above is a perfect of example of the good news we are not hearing.

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    • Just.get.on.with.it

      I am totally with you Tanlee. I could care less about when the PM of Australia decided to be leader. It certainly not affecting anything if it was the day before or the bloody decade before. All I want to know what the current govt is going to do on the issues that matter to me (health, family, unemployment). A big YAWN on gossip mongering in the media about totally trivial issues.

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  32. Kylie L

    Bingo. You’ve definitely hit a nerve Kate- count me in as another voter utterly disenchanted with the two major parties. The mean-spirited (not to mention inhumane) approach to the asylum seeker issues, the about-facing/vote chasing on the mining tax and private health insurance, the sorry state of indigenous affairs and mental health… I could go on and on. It’s not Labor and liberal, it’s Dumb and Dumber. Whatever happened to LEADERSHIP?? Instead we just have sniping and point scoring. It’s tragic.

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  33. alyssakt

    I get more Left Wing every day. And Labor gets more Centre/Right.

    If Turnbull was up for either party, I would vote for him.

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  34. Bec

    Much to everyone else’s disgust I’m sure but………ANDREW BOLT FOR PM!!!

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    • tanlee

      Just because someone acts like they are always right doesn’t make them right. Andrew Bolt yells at me enough from the newspaper, please don’t give him a bigger pulpit. I don’t think much of his listening skills that’s for sure.

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  35. Guest

    Anna Bligh for PM?
    Note: suggested as someone from WA who doesnt have her as a leader, but certainly respects her vision and leadership decisions (as portrayed in the media).

    Would love someone from QLD to let me know if she is as strong a leader in reality as comes across in the media?

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    • katehunter

      Anna B seems to be much more popular interstate than she is at home.

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    • kateb

      like that idea

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    • Oopsyboops

      Personally, I like her. But she is not popular here. She will not win the next election (in 5 weeks time). We seem to have an issue though with a government that has been in for far too long and is just a bit too inept. (like what happened in NSW)

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      • Frannie

        People seem to like Anna -it’s the people she has around her -and all the mistakes they keep making.

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  36. Layla

    All I know is that I don’t believe Gillard had a mandate. I feel quite jaded knowing that even though the Australian public will vote for a PM, a few individuals can undo that . Thinking they know better than the voting public. I would like to see Rudd back as PM. Hopefully making use of the different abilities of his team.

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  37. Profiterole

    Yep, if Malcolm Turnbull was the leader of the Libs, I would actually seriously consider voting for them.
    Coming from a Greens voter, that’s saying something.
    That’s a bit irrational, so I think there may be some romantic feelings there.. ;-)
    Oh well, it looks like I’m not the only one!

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    • Aishie

      You aren’t alone there at all.

      The conservative liberals are scared of Malcolm and his leather jacket. Even though he would win them an election by attracting every floating voter.

      If the west wing taught us (well me) anything, it’s the undecideds that win elections!

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      • SS

        love the West Wing!!
        Why cant Bartlett or Santos … or even Lyman be our PM?

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        • Aishie

          Oh I know! lemon Lyman for pm! Ha ha

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          • stargirl

            Josh or even Toby!!!!

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  38. An

    It seems like a total media build-up / beat-up. Wish they would just move on already.

    Besides I think Abbott has pretty much atatcked everything so what is he going to do if he gets elected? Oh yeah forget or have no memory of ever having said it.
    Sound familiar?

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  39. KW

    This is exactly what I’ve been thinking of late – bring back Malcolm and I wouldn’t need to give my next federal vote a second thought. That’s opposed to right now when I wouldn’t want to vote for either party!

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  40. MissS

    Wow, you just summed up perfectly what has been going through my mind (and a lot of my friends and colleges) over the last few months.

    Feel let down by Julia but there is no way in hell I’ll vote for Abbott. I too have been wondering if there is any chance the Libs will bring Turnbull back. He’s the only ‘leader’ in politics at the moment that I’d consider voting for as PM.

    I also feel that while you are voting for a party that the leader and how they represent us as a country is also very important. Abbott hasn’t shown an ounce of vision for this country as the opposition leader.

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  41. Mel

    I have a huge crush on Malcolm turnbull. He is everything the leader of this country should be.
    I have always voted coalition however I cringe at the thought of Tony Abbott being our PM. I had huge hopes for Julia as our first female PM and would have liked to have thought she could have swung me if she had done a good job but sadly she has only continued to disappoint me.
    I would happily vote for the coalition with Malcolm as the leader but until then am dreading the day I have to cast my vote!

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  42. MiddleC

    I’m with you on Turnbull. I saw him on Q&A too and was quite impressed with him.

    Julia and Tony both scare me and I don’t really want either of them in the Lodge.

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    • vanya

      Malcolm Turnbull would make a great PM. Intelligent. Articulate. Has integrity. I do hope I get to vote for the party he is leading in the next election, and may it be soon. He is such an OBVIOUS choice. The coalition would romp it in with him as leader.

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      • kiwichick

        short memories on display again

        utegate anyone??

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  43. Charlie

    I don’t understand when people say they aren’t interested in politics, and don’t know who they might vote for come polling day. I really believe we all have a responsibility to care… and forget personalities. I bet they’d all be fascinating around the dinner table but let’s vote for the party who is going to do the best job for our community, for our state, and country.

    To think you will vote for someone because they are at woolies at 8pm, because this makes them ‘real’? This horrifies me, because I live in your state, it is also my state, and if everyone thinks that way then I fear that the Labor Party will win the election and bankrupt us.

    It’s about the big picture. Tony Abbott is just as real as Julia Gillard, and vice versa… so how about we pay attention to the news every day so that when it comes to voting time we can balance the score card, align our values with theirs, with the knowledge of history, of broken promises, of the reverse – demonstrated committment and success – and focus on a future with an informed choice?!

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    • BB

      Bankrupt us?? Campbell Newman left Brisbane City Council with the biggest debt in history. He is self-serving and only cares about being in power.

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  44. A

    The four corners programme was a ridiculous waste of everybody’s time. Anyone who didn’t already know that hasn’t been paying attention. The point is, the power struggle doesn’t matter, it’s politics. They ALL do it. Ever since Julia Gillard became Prime Minister the media has become something of the lynch mob on the village green – it’s their fault she barely has a minute for anything important.

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  45. Nicki

    My Inner Anarchist would like to see the Nationals ditch the Libs and form a coalition with the Greens – they have more in common than anyone (i.e. News Ltd, etc) would have us believe. I know it won’t happen, though.

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  46. N1col3

    I havent sold my soul to either party but I would cast my vote on whoever promises to implement the NDIS immediately!

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  47. DizzyBee

    What about Joe Hockey, the big teddy…he’d be an awesome Liberal leader!

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    • Jack

      He follows the crowd.

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    • astrochicky

      he’s nice. but too much of a goof off….. well at least he’s better than abbott.

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  48. Alex

    The fact that you don’t vote for the leader is your problem. It won’t matter if Turnbull is the leader, the party sitting behind me and the members of Cabinet will all be members of the Liberal Party. The party is still full of members who are Howard left-overs. They don’t believe in climate change and they do believe in using tax dollars to pay people to vote for them. They hate Malcolm and all he stands for, that’s why he’s no longer leader.

    Australia’s problem right now is the both parties need reform, usually its only one or the other in a bad way at the any given time. But parties only reform when there’s nothing left to lose and the powerbrokers have no power to broke. So until they reform – vote for anyone except them according to your inclinations.

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    • Alex

      oops, party sitting behind HIM. Not me. If I were leader of the party it would be in much better shape :)

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    • Mishko

      Don’t believe in climate change? I thought a few years ago it was global warming – but then wait, it got cold! Just change the name to suit the tax and let the fools fall for it, that’s the ALPs tactic.

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  49. An Idle Dad

    You like Turnbull because he’s a Democrat. Socially progressive economic rationalist. Not only do you know Liberal party policy, you know how he is likely to respond because he has firm beliefs.

    Abbott’s a socially conservative, economic agnostic opportunist. Gillard is a agnostic socially opportunist, economic conservative.

    Basically, Tony is 100% reliable on social stances, but do anything, even wreck the economy, for political gain.

    Gillard on the other hand, has no beliefs about society that she’ll stand by. She is economically conservative – every response Labor has taken since taking power is straight out of an economic conservative’s cookbook (regardless of what the haters might say).

    But, while she will be able to run the economy fine, you don’t know what she’ll chop and change either in the budget or law from one second to the next.

    Liberals won’t replace Tony while polling remains strong. If Labor gain any ground (under either Gillard, Rudd or someone else) Tony will be gone, because Tony is so unpopular personally.

    Howard was your bloke next door who you could trust. Turnbull is the successful educated poor bloke come good.

    Gillard is a used car salesman and Tony is your gossipy local cleryman. No one like those folks.

    Turnbull – all the way.

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    • spygirl

      ‘Howard was your bloke next door who you could trust’ – really????

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      • An Idle Dad

        Replace trust with predictable, if you prefer, and say it with a sneer. Feel better? ;)

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        • spygirl

          a bit – thanks ;-)

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    • vivacious

      I miss the Democrats. Their time has come – but they aren’t here to do anything with it.

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  50. Anonymous

    I want it all to just stop! Stop the Julia bashing, stop the negativity of abbot. Stop, stop, stop. Get on with governing the country. How can someone lead when the press whips up a storm over nothing every day. Gillard or Abbot, both are as bad as each other.

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