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Mia Freedman

BY MIA FREEDMAN

When you have a skirmish with someone on social media, the world is watching. OK, not the world. Nelson Mandela and Lady Gaga are usually pretty busy but there are always plenty of strangers keen to jump in and pelt you with tomatoes.

And that’s how it went down earlier this week when I became the public target of some pretty choice insults from iconic Australian feminist Anne Summers. It started innocently enough – it always does. I was having a chat on Twitter with my friend, journalist Julia Baird, about Hillary Clinton.

I’ve always loved Hillary and never more than now. She’s at the top of her game, in the prime of her career. She’s no longer defined as someone’s wife or mother. She’s kicking goals, kicking arse and winning international acclaim as secretary of state (which is the equivalent of our foreign minister but with actual power and immeasurable influence).

As Julia and I tweeted cheerily about how magnificent Hillary is, the subject of whether she’d run for president in 2016 popped up. Could this be her time? Her window?

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A US president can only serve two concurrent terms so assuming Obama is reelected this year, he cannot run again in 2016. He’ll be done. This leaves the way open for Hillary to contest the Democratic ticket for the presidency, something she missed out on when her party picked Obama over her in 2008.

Except. Hillary will be 69 in 2016. Is that too old to put your hand up for the most important and demanding job in the world? I mildly observed on Twitter that perhaps it was. That perhaps 2016 would be too late for Hillary. Not because she’s a woman but because I think being the President Of The United States (POTUS) is a younger person’s game. Not a 30 year old but not a 70 year old either.

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That’s when famed Australian feminist and author Anne Summers unexpectedly parachuted into our conversation:

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When someone suggested that was a bit harsh, she replied:

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I was a bit reeling after that very publicly back-hand and replied:

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but she wasn’t finished:

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Except I never said anything about a ‘scrap heap’.

Her words, certainly not mine.

Others quickly chimed in crossly, citing Ronald Reagan who was President from age 69 until he was almost 78 and republican candidate John McCain who was 72 when he ran against Obama in 2008.

They brandished these examples triumphantly as evidence that 69 isn’t too old to run for POTUS except I don’t think either man sells the idea of older political leaders very well. Reagan was plagued by health problems during his Presidency including recurring skin cancers, hearing and prostate problems.

There was also wide speculation that the Alzheimer’s with which he was formally diagnosed after he left office had begun while he was still at The White House. Some journalists later admitted they were conflicted about whether to report some worrying behaviour they witnessed towards the end of Reagan’s presidency that suggested dementia.

Meanwhile, McCain had a heart condition, leading to speculation that if he was elected, his running mate  Sarah Palin would be  ‘one heartbeat away from being President’. Many say that cost him votes.

Still, when a tweeter called @olderworkers began accusing me of being ‘ageist’ and others began piling on, I took a breath and walked away from a barney I never meant to have. I also wanted to consider the criticism and gather some thoughts that were longer than 140 characters.

Is it really ageist to question the physical stamina of a 69 year old who could be 77 by the time her hypothetical presidency is finished?

Looking at the POTUS’ job description from the bleachers, it’s hard to imagine a more demanding gig. Mentally, emotionally, physically. The stress is relentless. And people do slow down as they get older. We all do. That’s just biology. And the more stressful your life, the bigger toll it takes. How exhausted does Obama look? And he’s only 50.

It’s a sad fact that wisdom and life experience are woefully undervalued in our society. Perhaps that’s why Anne Summers lashed out. There are many skills you can’t download via Google, many aspects of emotional intelligence that can’t be fast-tracked.

But US election campaigns are extraordinarily hardcore – they last up to a year and there are 52 50 states to visit, multiple times each.

And that’s before you win and have to start actually running the country. If Hillary runs for President in 2016, she will have just come off the back of eight years as secretary of state with all the travel and stress that entails.

Is it so offensive to suggest she – or any 69 year old – may lack the stamina to be the leader of the Western World?

For a job like POTUS, I think it requires a balance of wisdom experience and enormous stamina. I’m not sure what the magic age is. Somewhere between 45 and 65 perhaps? I’m you have your own view.

I cannot state strongly enough how much I value the contribution of older people in our society. There should be more of it.

In fact last week Mamamia published a post about older people by 20 year old Sean Power. It was a call to other Gen Y’ers to look at the older generation and see wisdom, not someone who doesn’t use lol in the right way (you can read it here).

Being a political leader is not a beauty contest or a triathlon. Age and experience are a necessity. But at what point does your age become a liability? I don’t know the answer but it’s one that American voters may have to consider well before 2016.

How old do you think is too old to be a political leader? Or does age not matter at all?

 

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  1. catgirl

    I have to say Mia that I agree with everything that you say on this issue.

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  2. Ella

    I think what Anne Summers said has a lot more to do with her own issues than anything you said, Mia.

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  3. Rebecca

    Mia, you don’t quote own tweets in this article. I think you miss something in the telling by not doing that. In saying that, I don’t think we needed to have the ‘spat’ as you call it drawn out and rehashed like this. I would be far more interested if it were only about the issue at hand, not how you were slapped over the wrist by Anne Summers. Sometimes you’ve just got to cop it on the chin.

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    • Nora

      Yes, I was thinking the same thing in regards to the original tweets.

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    • Mia

      I’ve added my tweets in – fair point.
      But as to why I”ve written about it at all? Well, actually I wasn’t prepared to ‘cop’ being called ignorant or bigoted or ageist. So I wanted to take it away from twitter and explore the issue in a bit more depth.

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      • Amandarose

        I think your brave- won’t the name callers just come over here and have another go?
        I don’t know enough about Hilary to comment ( if she is a healthy Julie Bishop type or less healthy?) I reckon she should have a crack if she feels up to it but some reservation is needed in that age group.

        I had a co worker 73 who got Alziemers and we had to talk him in to quitting before forcing him to go. Not ideal in a President really so I get your point but I still think it is a health issue not age ( accepting health declines with age)

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      • Nora

        Thanks for adding your tweets!

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      • Junebug

        I notice that in adding your own tweets you deleted your point re not saying anything about “over 60″ from the line, “Except I never said anything about a ‘scrap heap’,” because you obviously did say, “I believe past 60…”. That’s interesting to someone like me who didn’t read it on Twitter and took you at your word on first read last night.

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  4. Diana The Huntress

    Well, I don’t really have an opinion on the issue at hand, but I will say that as a feminist I don’t feel any more obliged to support Hilary Clinton than any other candidate. The fact that she is female doesn’t really change the fact that by that level, regardless of their past or party allegiances they’re irredeemably compromised and I would go so far as to say power hungry and corrupted. Their campaigns are all paid for by Wall St and the industrial complex. Which means I have no faith in any of them whatsoever.

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  5. Kate

    Although politicians can work well into their 70s and beyond, I think everyone deserves a real retirement to kick back and relax after many years of giving their life to their work. Of course, it is all up to personal choice and if Hillary Clinton decides to continue on, then good on her. Each to their own.

    Anne did seem to jump down your throat a bit Mia.

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  6. LisaF

    Hilary has been a strong influence in American (and global) politics her entire life.

    She is more experienced and qualified now as an “older” person to lead that country than anyone else.

    I was an voyeur in that tweetathon last week between you and kept well away from comments. I respected both points of view and accepted there was some high emotion going on.

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  7. Amandarose

    I can see another deluge of anger coming here- Shackle down Mia.

    I would find those comment pretty offensive if I was in that age catagory.

    Yes older people are more likely to be worn out but plenty are fit as a fiddle well into their 80′s.

    I work with people in this age group and am constantly astounded on how fit many of them are. 70 really is the new 50 and this has changed during our life time.

    My grandparents all died I. Their early 70′s and were in no way up for this type of work( any work- with dementia COPD and heart disease they were well past it)

    Bit if Hilary is fit and healthy I cannot see age as a reason not to get the job.

    It is a health issue not a age one.

    Maybe your experience of older people has not been positive( health wise) which has caused this view or maybe you have a point? I will get back to you in 2016!

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  8. Monty

    I don’t think we can just disregard people doing a certain job because of their age.

    For example my 73 year old grandfather has boundless energy and I think he would outlast some of my mid 20 aged friends when it came to world travel/excercise/long work hours etc.

    That’s not to say you don’t, I think, make a valid point Mia. We do slow down as we get older, and of course no one would want a POTUS, or anybody in any position, without the energy levels to do the job.

    But I don’t think we can, oh but you’re 70 therefore incapble of fulfilling the requirements. There would be some 70 year olds that wouldn’t be, and some that would. Just as there would be some 50 year olds that could and couldn’t do the job.

    At the end of the day, everyone is different and I don’t think we can throw people in the old basket because they’ve lived a certain number of years.

    Everyone has different capabilities, and I am sure if Hillary Clinton does end up in a position to run for POTUS at 69 she’ll take into account what she feels capable of. She sure knows the job description as well as anyone, and I don’t think anyone would take on a job if they felt their age would hinder their perfomance, but whose to say it will?

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  9. Lu

    I agree with you. I get exhausted when I read about Julia Gillards schedule and I bet thats nothing compared with The US Presidents. My dad is in his mid 60′s and still works fulltime and admits he is tired and not as sharp as he used to be. He has been in the same profession for over 40 years and cant keep up with the reading he needs to do and has had to limit work travel because he just doesnt get over jetlag the way he used to. He plans to retire this year. Besides, you’re not meant to work yourself into the grave. I always feel sad when I hear about people dying before they retired. What was all he hard work for if they dont get the chance to sit back and enjoy themselves at the end their working life.

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  10. masd270248

    Disappointed that such a respected person as Anne Summers responded a bit irrationally! There’s a big difference between 60 & 69, I should know, am 64, and having to consider, for the first time, the limits of what I can achieve, I would LOVE to study Law, but, like Mia has suggested, have to think of what it would be like to push a 70 year old body through that amount of stress & effort

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  11. Junebug

    Age doesn’t matter. But Hilary will cop it more than others because she’s a woman. And women aren’t meant to get old. Mia, you said it yourself in your comments re the eternally-30 woman.

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    • Amandarose

      I agree and I don’t get it women tend to live longer so you would think it would be the other way.

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