by JAMILA RIZVI
On Wednesday night a line got crossed. Host of Australia’s Next Top Model, Charlotte Dawson was hospitalised following a horrific stream of abuse being sent her way via social media.
This wasn’t mere sticks-and-stones or have-a-spoon-full-of-concrete kind of stuff. This was a sustained and vitriolic attack over several hours from dozens of people – each of them urging Charlotte to end her life.
I repeat. On Wednesday night a line got crossed.
The problem is that I’m not exactly sure where that line was.
Or at what point it got crossed. Or by whom.
When things like this happen, we look around for someone to blame. Because blame makes us feel better about what happened. Blame gives us someone or something to direct our anger at. Blame is part of how we assure ourselves that it won’t happen again and it won’t happen to us or someone we love.
But I’ll tell you something: blame is the easy part.
You can blame the people who wrote those horrible things, you can blame Charlotte for fueling the fire by engaging with them, you can blame Twitter for providing a platform for such things to be said, you can blame the Government for not policing social media better… Hell, you can blame the advent of the Internet itself.
What is much harder though and where the conversation absolutely MUST go next, is one step further along the thought process from blame – and that, is responsibility.
Sadly, we live in a world where it often takes an incident involving the cult of celebrity to make us sit up and take notice. So let’s notice. What Charlotte Dawson experienced this week is akin to the kind of cyber bullying that countless young people are subjected to every day.
Yes, there have always been and there will always be bullies. But what happens to kids today is not like it used to be. Where you used to be able to go safely home at the end of the day and leave it all behind – you can’t any more – because the bullies are on your parent’s computer, on your laptop, on your iPad and on your smart phone.
They can get to you. 24. Hours. A. Day.
There will be those who say Charlotte Dawson should have just switched off. That she should have reported the abuse, blocked the users, logged off Twitter, closed her laptop and walked away.
And I tend to agree with them. Of course that would have been the best and most sensible course of action. But it’s far easier said than done. And if a confident and successful adult finds it difficult to ignore this kind of extreme bullying – imagine how hard that is for a 12-year-old kid.
So let’s talk about responsibility.
The law in this area is murky at best. In fact, that’s the understatement of the year. The law in this area is like Sydney Harbour following a series of massive thunderstorms, before the chemical industry were told to stop dumping in there and exactly 364 days since the last Clean Up Australia Day.
The reason for this is that our criminal statutes don’t adequately reflect the way in which social media is coming to dominate communication. There is practically no specific legislation in this area, which means our courts are forced to try and fit these ‘modern’ crimes into the definitions which were written at a time when menacing phone calls to brick-sized mobile telephones were at the cutting edge of modernity.
The closest we’ve got in our criminal law as it currently stands is harassment. Harassment is (most helpfully) not defined by the Commonwealth Crimes Act and the Australian courts have previously set the bar pretty high when it comes to proving online harassment. But certainly to a layperson, what happened to Charlotte fits within the court’s previous interpretations of harassment.

Charlotte Dawson
But who is responsible? Was it the person who sent the first abusive tweet? The person who first urged Charlotte to harm herself? Was it the person who started the ‘hashtag’ to that effect? Or was it the person whose tweet, so compounded how vulnerable and alone Charlotte was feeling, even if it wasn’t the worst of what was hurled at her?
And if we’re looking at the bigger picture, at what this means for school kids who bully other school kids – we all know that criminal action isn’t the answer. However harsh or cruel the taunts, in the end they’re just kids. Right?
There will be calls for action following what has happened to Charlotte. There will be the usual to-and-fro between the states and the Commonwealth, the communications ministers and attorneys general as to exactly whose problem this is. Nobody will want the responsibility because let’s face it: seeking to legislate around the Internet is a minefield nobody wants to go near.
The issue of who takes responsibility is compounded ever further by the fact that Charlotte Dawson isn’t a universally loved figure. Charlotte is no angel. She is a polarising media personality, who a lot of people aren’t fans of. This doesn’t mean she is in any way to blame for what happened to her but it does mean that people will be less willing to rush to her defence.
People in the public eye must recognise that criticism does comes with their celebrity status. Yes. But what happened on Wednesday night went so far beyond what anyone should ever have to put up with. It was on an entirely different scale to the usual taunts and jibes and digs that the Twitter world throws up. It was the work of a cyber mob.

Phoebe Prince, who took her life after being bullied online
One solution that will no doubt be offered up, is that social media and networking sites should have more checks and balances to ensure people are held accountable for what they say.
People write horrible things on the Internet. And there is something about the anonymity of being online, that emboldens people to say incredibly personal and hateful things to complete strangers.
If we remove the ability to remain anonymous or to have multiple accounts under different names, would that even make a difference? How would it even be achieved?
And what about where anonymity is used for the betterment of a cause? Try telling young women in Saudi Arabia or Hazaran Afghanis or the people of Syria that they have to put their real names to a Twitter account. The fact is that sometimes anonymity is crucial and a necessary shield for those who speak out against oppression.
I honestly don’t have an answer. The thing that scares me is that the people who I’d like to hope would have an answer – the policy makers, the law enforcers, the owners of social media – don’t seem to have one either.
A line was crossed on Wednesday night. I don’t know exactly where it lies. And nor do they.
But for the sake of the 12-year-old kid who is being relentlessly bullied around the clock and doesn’t know how to escape or where to turn – we need to have this conversation. Even if none of us have the answers yet.
Until we come up with a solution, until we come up with a way to embrace all the weird and wonderful advantages of the Internet, while still having limits to shield people from its darker side – let’s remember this:
Be excellent to each other. Every day.
Don’t write anything online that you wouldn’t be willing to say to someone in person. And when you go to write something personally critical on social media – ask yourself why you feel the need to have an audience for your criticism.
By all means, have the debates, involve yourself in the discussion of issues, disagree with one another and demand better of your governments and of the media.
But let’s do so kindly, let’s do so respectfully and let’s always remember that there is a real person reading what you write and you never know how they might be feeling that particular day.
It goes without saying that comments on this post need to remain respectful – otherwise they will be deleted immediately.
If this post brings up issues for you, or you just need someone to talk to, please call Lifeline on 131 114. You can also visit the Lifeline website here and the Beyond Blue website here.








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I condemn any form of bulling. But Charlotte Dawson is not so innocent herself. She is a celebrity and should know better. What I don’t understand is why she is doing an interview with Channel 9 after all this drama with twitter?? Go figure. Anyways, I hope she gets better
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Many commentators seem to be implying that Charlotte had it coming. This eye-for-an-eye mentality is a bit “Old Testament” don’t you think? Biblical high horse anyone?
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No doubt there are insane wacko’s online but……
Agreeing to be interviewed for national tele just HOURS after an apparent suicide attempt? Hard to digest.
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I’ve experienced being bullied.
I tried to share this experience with adults, begged for advice on how to handle it.
The response that made me feel even more vulnerable and alone was; “Just ignore them.” To sit and say nothing while cruel people chant jibes about you doesn’t help.
I don’t know what the best way to handle bullies is. I suspect there will never be one cut and dried answer, but at some point the ‘well-meaning’ advice has to be directed at the people who go out of their way to behave like mean assholes, and not the recipients of that behaviour.
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Can somebody explain what this is about? Who is she? what happened?
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This concerns me, her friend & co author tweeted this a couple days back, Charlotte retweeted it, why would they want to incite this sort of attention. Doesn`t excuse the extent the trolling went to but did they seek the attention?
“Got an affectedly furrowed brow, low grasp of language and an extra chromosome? It’s time to troll @MsCharlotteD! YAAAAY!”
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Somebody needs to explain ‘satire’ to you.
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Ironic that her friend is admitted to a psych unit?
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First up, internet bullying is not OK. It’s hurtful, small minded, arrogant and unneccessary. I am sad CD is in hospital. she seems like a sharp, intelligent, capable woman. But then a few things came to light, which made me question this whole situation.
She now has an interview with 60 Minutes. Okay, if this highlights the issue of cyberbullying, good stuff. But let’s keep in mind CD is a forty something woman, not a teenager. It doesn’t make cyber bullying OK, but I do think she should be able to handle it more appropriately. Block those twitter followers immediately. Ignore the comments. Rise above it.
Then I hear she has a book “Air Kiss and Tell” being released soon. I soooo don’t want to believe this is all a publicity stunt, but with all these trolls around, I’m starting to smell a rat….
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I just want to thank you for saying what everyone else has been thinking.
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What sad Chan, is that Charlotte Dawson has abused people over the internet just as badly. I think people in both cases need to take a long hard look at themselves and all need to take responsibility in to their own hands. A story is never just one sided
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No, she hasn’t ever abused people just as badly.
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We need to ignore these people and not give them the attention they crave, in addition the social media sites need to close their accounts.
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As someone who has spent time in mental health hospitals I find it disturbing Charlotte popped out of hospital for the interview then back in. At first I thought she had been discharged but in an article tonight it says she was just on a break and went back in.
I find it really really disturbing – on behalf of the doctors, Channel 9 and Charlotte.
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I agree. There is something seriously amiss here. I still don’t understand why exactly Charlotte was even hospitalised. If she truly was in need of urgent psychiatric care, she should have been on suicide watch for the first 24 hours of her hospitalisation. If she was NOT in need of immediate psychiatric care, then why was she even admitted? I’ve never seen, or heard of, an urgent psychiatric admission being well enough to give a lucid interview with ANYONE, much less a national television programme.
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i am sure we are talking about a private facility, not a proper mental health facility, that you may have expereinced
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was 9gag where this hate campaign began?
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No. It was 4chan’s /b/ setting up 9gag.
There have been posts all over /b/ during the past few days planning the attack, discussing the aftermath, and planning their next move to “destroy” her.
Their aims are threefold:
- Trolling for the “lulz”.
- Exposing Dawson’s hypocrisy – she has been a huge bully herself, setting her Twitter army on anyone she disagrees with.
- Having their rivals, 9gag, take the blame.
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good god, this takes bullying to a whole other level…thanx for the info
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This article raises the important question of public media responsibility and criminality. These are issues that need much stronger levels of control to protect particularly children and the community in general.
However Charlotte did what she did all by herself.
Charlotte is an adult of mature years if not of mind.
Charlotte throws out a whole lot of judgement and harshness. While her critics were outrageous in their commentary, Charlotte can make choices about whether to respond or react, that is what being a mature adult requires.
Your perception is your reality!
Charlotte needs to own the fact she puts herself out there and if she doesn’t like the response,she can always turn it off .
If Charlotte changed her own behaviour she would not attract such nonsense from others.
Grow up Charlotte no one is responsible for your choices except you.
Toughen up aka Sandilands or preferably nicen up,it is up to you!
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Troll in disguise me thinks!!
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Dont judge someone until you have walked a mile in their shoes.
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Two wrongs don’t make a right!
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Live & let live…
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It’s so very true, people on cyberspace can be so cruel to one and other. Great ending, I love it.
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This is a difficult issue to police. Instead of trying to solve the issue after it’s happened, maybe the government AND Twitter need to spend time educating people on cyber bullying. People need to know the line NOT to cross. I see it on Facebook when companies put out a controversial subject but fail to delete bully comments.
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Excellent well balanced article. I think you message to just be civil under all circumstances it the best point to make from this.
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The kind of systematic bullying and abuse that some young people have to endure, at school and online, at arguably the most vulnerable time of their lives when their self-esteem and sense of identity is fragile, is just so horrible. The fact that it can lead to suicide is a tragedy. However, I don’t understand how ignorant, abusive comments from a bunch of internet trolls can result in a woman in her 40s being hospitalised. I just don’t get it. The kind of comments you encounter from trolls are just so absurdly extreme – I can see how they might affect a younger person, but for an adult with healthy self-esteem, commonsense, and a sound support network, shouldn’t it be water off a duck’s back? Trolls will be trolls.
I don’t want to sound too harsh because I do sympathise with Charlotte Dawson, but that “You win” attitude also puts her in a rather unfortunate position as ambassador of Community Brave as it sends out a really negative message about the best way to deal with internet bullying.
What I find shocking is that some of these people who post these abusive comments are adults with supposedly responsible roles in society – police officers, parents, etc. What is wrong with these people? It’s a pretty bleak reflection of human nature, that given a cloak of anonymity, some people will resort to the vilest behaviour. There must be something seriously wrong with a person to act that way, and I can’t imagine giving them the time of day. Hit block, delete, or report, and ignore them. Trying to enter into a rational discussion with people like this is an exercise in futility.
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I’m not on twitter muself and I’d never heard of charlotte dawson until all this blew up, but I am so sorry fir what she is going through. I agree, the best thing would have been for her to not engage, but why should she be denied access to twitter because of other people’s actions? Isn’t that punishing her for others meanness? Sure, we can say she shouldn’t have spent 8 hours communicating with them, but I think that takes a lot of strength that mental illness can zap very quickly. In my experience, ignoring the bullies only makes the, worses.
I wish I had some answers, but I don’t. My love to all who are being degraded, bullied, harrased and abused online. You are worth more than you can know.
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maybe she is going on 60 minutes to continue the anti-bullying debate. maybe she feels she has let down those who she previously supported with her anti-bullying work?
who knows. i don’t think going on 60 minutes is about more publicity and book sales. maybe she went down and she wants to show that she is fighting back.
either way i feel sick reading many of these comments and those on the previous post. she may have written dodgy comments on the past but she had a TORRENT of abuse.
comment below if you have NEVER said or done something that was a little mean, nasty or spiteful. we all live in glass houses.
another great post jamila.
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If you are being bullied on twitter or facebook, why not get off? I don’t understand the concept of staying on there. Are people addicted to this stuff? There are better ways of meeting and talking to people!
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Surely it’s not as simple as that. People should be able to enjoy social media without being subjected to traumatising crap from unknowns.
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Good point. But sometimes reality is not what we want it to be, so we must adapt accordingly.
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Vee I don’t disagree people should be able to enjoy SM without crap.
But….if you are constantly getting crap on SM/online maybe take a look at the company you are keeping.
I read over and over again about people putting up with idiots on facebook (racist comments, abusive, mean), getting flamed on twitter, fighting with people in comments sections of sites etc etc.
I don’t ever see anything disagreeable on my FB feed. All my friends are genuine friends and I wouldn’t be friends with someone who is abusive or would post something racist or cruel. Getting flamed on twitter? Who are you following? What are you tweeting? Fighting in comments sections? What site are you on? Who are you engaging with?
‘Don’t blame the victim’ can go to far. If this stuff is a problem in your online life take a good long hard look at the company you keep and your own behaviour. I’m 26, been active online 10 years now and rarely had these problems.
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I have so many problems with this story:
- CD engaged with trolls for something like 8 hours. Ok, so when a person gets jumped in a dark alley we are not supposed to say ‘why did you walk down the alley?’ But there are limits to not blaming the victim. CD is a grown woman, spending 8 hours on twitter in this way makes me think a) you are an idiot or b) this makes a good spin story for you.
- CD herself has tweeted bad things, bullied people on TV. Doesn’t redeem her bullies, but it is highly relevant.
- Getting someone in trouble with their workplace for what they do in their private lives is APPALLING. The attempt to make it relevant because she is around young people was weak at best. This was flat out dobbing and the only reason CD didn’t get laughed at was because the woman works for a university. If I was say, the owner of an ad agency, I would have laughed at CD dobbing in one of my workers for their private twitter time.
- As a criminologist I find the politicians rush to support stronger online bullying legislation a good example of knee jerk reactions to the issue of the moment in the hunt for votes. There is such a think as over policed. We have legislation against online stalking and harassment. It may be imperfect, I haven’t looked at it, but we don’t need to become a society where we try to charge people over a tweet that says ‘go kill yourself’. That is over policing and there are more constructive ways to deal with such an issue. The rush to the law is ridiculous and not confined just to this issue. The same people who demand greater legal protection against twitter bullies probably posted in the cotton wool thread about how legal liability has ruined playgrounds.
Cyber bullying is awful sure, but this is a really really bad case study for it and the reaction to it has been simplistic – more law!. I was once bullied at school. I learnt pretty quickly that most bullies want a reaction. If you ignore people 9/10 they go away. Not a solution for all bullying, I know, but maybe some people just need to man up and ignore it – particularly adults. Children and bullying is another issue and probably shouldn’t get caught up in the CD issue – it is a long bow to draw.
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I agree. If CD had been reported to her employers for tweeting to that blogger that she hopes someone kills him, Foxtel or whoever would have laughed at the caller and hung up. CD was working with teens on Top Model, that’s even younger than the uni students!
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Twitter isn’t private though, that’s the point. There’s a difference between saying to your bestie/mum/neighbour “gosh I wish that chick would just shut up and die” and putting it out on the net for everyone to see. I wouldn’t want that person in my workplace either.
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Yes but there is a line between your work and your private life for most jobs. People are entitled to live their private lives mostly as they see fit without fear it will impact on their work.
Employers shouldn’t have the right in most jobs to judge what you say on twitter, what political demonstrations you attend, what sex club you go to, how you dress on the weekend, on any number of things you do in public.
This article was originally headlined ‘a line was crossed’ and for me CD crossed the sacred line between someone’s private life and their work life.
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Rubbish. Many workplaces view the way their employees conduct themselves on social media as a reflection of the business/company/organisation. Particularly people in roles of public service like police or teachers. There is no line. Twitter and Facebook are NOT private. Harrassment is harrassment, online or in the physical world, it makes no difference. People should be held accountable for their actions – I cannot understand your antiquated and illogical views about cyberspace being “private time”.
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Lucinda, earlier you made some really pertinent remarks about mental health and the way comments online can make vulnerable people feel. Now you’ve just called someone’s else’s views rubbish, antiquated and illogical. That could be pretty hurtful to some I would imagine.
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Please. My comments were in direct argument to Guest’s notion that it is irrelevant to a workplace if an employee tells other people to kill themselves if it is in “private” time. Hurtful my arse – exactly where are the personal insults to Guest, as opposed to the ones directly related to his/her opinion? I think Guest’s comments are more likely to be offensive than mine.
In any case, my previous comment stated that people need to look after their own wellbeing and know when to switch off – not that we should all walk on eggshells so that we don’t hurt other people.
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Lucinda I am confused. You don’t think we should walk on eggshells, you think people should just disengage but you support people dobbing on others to their workplace about completely irrelevant things that they did in their private time?
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You are deliberately trying to be antagonistic now. I actually said that I do hope that we eventually get new/updated legislation to uphold accountability when it comes to online bullying. You know, the really nasty kind, like telling people to kill themselves. The kind that drives young people to take their own lives.
I also said that we don’t have that legislation in place yet, and that we won’t stop all bullying… in which case we can educate people on looking after their own wellbeing and the impact of social media on their mental health so that they do know when to disengage if they need to.
The internet is a place with many many views which are opposing our own. And no we should not stifle that to the point where we are walking on eggshells. But viscious bullying and death threats are not ok, under any circumstances.
And with that, I have said my bit and I am choosing to disengage with you.
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I find that comment hurtful, Lucinda. May I have your full details so I may report this comment to your employer?
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Oh aren’t you hilarious…. because saying that someones views are illogical is so bloody hurtful isn’t it? Definitely in the same category as telling someone to kill themself. Give me a break.
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Lucinda I said ‘most jobs’, not all. Of course professions like police and teaching are different.
A uni staffer who said what that woman said? Not relevant to her job. Not her employers business, at all.
I accept not bitching about your work online, or making representations about your employers on social media.
What I don’t accept is that our employers own us to the extent they can demand certain standards of behaviour in our private time. Particularly in some random job like uni staffer.
Work does not own us. Work cannot demand we act in certain ways outside of work. They can ask not to be talked about, or for you to not represent the workplace actively in some way, otherwise, it is your private time do what you like. Again, work does not own your private time.
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Again, facebook and twitter is not private. It is published for everyone to see. Whether or not employers should be able to own employees private lives is not the argument. They can and DO read both prospective and current employees social media activity and they can and do make judgements of employees based on what has been published. The random uni staffer was a student mentor I believe. I think the university was right to suspend her from her duties.
People should be made accountable for the things they say publically.
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Lucinda you are misunderstanding what I mean by ‘private’.
I don’t mean private from the world, I mean your private time, the time where you choose what you do – as distinct from work time.
I know it is published for everyone to see. But if it is written during your private time and you are not writing about work it is your business.
As for being accountable that’s debatable. Let’s say people should be accountable, for arguments sake. Why should it be their workplace who gets to punish them? It is illogical – your work place punishes you for something said during your private time.
Workplaces are not judge and jury and if it is unrelated to work it is not up to them to hold you accountable.
Employers have enough power over their employees, why give them power over what you do outside of work as well? In my non-work time I am accountable to the police, my partner, my family and my friends. Not to my employer.
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Wasn’t that chick from Monash’s twitter linked to her work computer or account? So then doesn’t her employer have a right to do whatever they see fit because she was using their resources in an unethical way.
If she’s a mentor at Monash, I’d put that in the same boat as teachers. Reprehensible.
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I agree with Lucinda, social media is not private, and what you do in public has consequences for people other than yourself.
An employer has every right to be concerned about whether an employee is behaving disgracefully on social media, as it is ultimately a reflection on them, of people they choose to represent them.
Public behaviour matters. It doesn’t mean you are ‘owned’ but if you cannot show a basic level of decency and respect in public outside work hours, what does that say about your integrity as a human being, let alone an employee?
I really don’t get this ‘I’m accountable to nobody but myself and my own people’ attitude. Aren’t you part of society too?
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Yeah, S. All rights claimed, no responsibility taken.
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Thank you for your most interesting comment, Guest. Your post and a few others is Mamamia at its best.
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You have obviously never suffered from depression?! And to certain degrees your employment should have a reflection on your private life – I would never employ someone that spread hate
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Actually I have suffered depression and spent long stretches in hospital for it. If anything it makes me even more clear eyed about these issues and as someone who has experienced crisis hospitalisation and depression I smell a rat about this whole Charlotte Dawson – Twitter trolls thing. I also don’t see what depression has to do with the points I made in my comment?
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Sorry to hear that Guest. It’s a deep dark hole when it gets to the hospitalisation stage. I understand why you feel suspicious.
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I think you are on the money with this one Jamila, in that there is no easy answer. I hope someday new legislation is written to make people who engage in online harrassment accountable.
However, I think accountability is only one side of the coin to be honest. I hope that these incidents encourage dialogue about mental illness, and especially the impact of social media on mental illness. It is clear that Charlotte has suffered depression and obviously still is suffering; my opinion, and that of much emerging research, is that social media compounds depression and can amplify a “downer” in a big way.
I am somewhat prone to depressive episodes, and have come to realise that when I feel this way, many things that people say/post on social media can make me feel on edge and I tend to say things I might not ordinarily say either. As a consequence, I generally choose to turn off facebook and twitter when I know I’m feeling low and do something else.
I don’t excuse the words of the perpetrators of such vitriole, but as people, in an era where we are immersed more and more intensely in the online world, I think we have to be careful about losing our sense of who we are. I have been there and learned the hard way. But I would like to see more research on the influence of social media on mental health because regardless of laws in place in the future, we still need to know how to look after our own mental wellbeing when it comes to cyberspace. For me this is the bigger issue here.
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Great post, all too often people hide behind the anonymity of the internet without considering the implications of sending abuse to a real person with feelings. What happened to Charlotte was awful and clearly perpetrated by the lowest common denominator. You can disagree with someone without resorting to personal attacks, the PM is continuously the target of this sort of vitriol online and it’s disgusting. Wishing Charlotte all the best!
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Solving this is hard becuase it is so big.
It is ultimately about instilling values / respectful behaviour into everyone’s consciousness. The old days of going to Sunday School as a kid and learning stories from the bible and discussing the morals and values of various case studies is something we have lost yet not replaced. I still remember the nuns teachng us about compassion etc. It was good, it uplifted, it instilled a sense of fairness and kindness, gave value to such notions. Sadly, while I do not endorse organised religion as the answer, culture needs some shaping to create a healthly framework etc. (
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Wow, just read down to few posts and shocked at some of the backhanded nasty comments. Especially the one about her book being plugged and not feeling sorry for her due to the 60 minutes interview……
Probably not the best forum to be sarcastic and nasty considering the subject matter. Show a little compassion, just because you are a media identity does not mean you do not have feelings or have fears and anxieties like everyone else.i thought those comments were unnecessary.
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You realise this is a women who tweeted to a far more famous than her blogger that she hopes someone kills him, right? Hopefully the interview is a chance to apologise to those she has bullied online herself, because she has a history of being vicious for attention.
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She tweeted that she hopes someone gets killed?
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Yes she did. When things like ‘police report’ started to be mentioned, she backtracked and said it was a joke, and isn’t she hilarious omg you guys, why can’t you take like a joke?
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Yes, my comments are harsh but I have spent the last 2 days researching both sides of the story. I suggest you do the same and maybe start with the other story on this website where there has been some very interesting discussion. Sadly many of the posts which didn’t support Charlotte have been deleted but you should still get the gist of it.
While it is very sad that Charlotte ended up in hospital and while we are all acknowledging the trolls on Twitter and websites are pure scum, there are a lot of questions this story and the way it has been reported have raised. If you think it’s ok for someone who attempted suicide after posting a photo of her hand holding pills to be doing an interview on 60 Minutes this Sunday then that’s your right just like it’s my right to think that this is a publicity stunt and nothing more.
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I think the problem here is that people just don’t like Charlotte Dawson because they have seen her bully and hurt others. She has smugly sat back and done nothing on Twitter when her followers have ripped into people who have disagreed with her.
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I hope the money Charlotte Dawson makes from her exclusive 60 Minutes interview goes straight to an anti-bullying charity (gosh, her agent was quick to ink that in 24 hours since the event).
And that her book (the one which cover is her Twitter profile pic we’ve now seen everywhere) isn’t plugged, because she’s there to talk about online bullying, right? Right?!
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I cant imagine a Doctor recommending that a patient who has recently attempted suicide and/or had a breakdown undertake media interviews.
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I’m sure a PR would recommend it for maximum publicity though.
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I am a bit confused, did Charlotte have an emotional breakdown or did she attempt suicide?
Which ever it was it is terrible that anyone is pushed to that limit. I hope Charlotte receives the best care and counseling she needs to recover from this.
Why can’t people just be kind to each other?
I do not understand what people get out of being nasty and hateful…..very sad.
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from what I can gather, Charlotte was tweeting and re-tweeting for hours on end. She then posted a pic of her holding 1/2 a dozen tablets, and tweeted ‘you win’. I assume, she was saying I’m going to do myself harm. Then an ambulance was called, Charlotte goes to hospital, then does a 60 minute’s interview a couple of hours later.
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I have read that Ms Dawson is a spokesperson for an anti bullying organisation.
How did she get this position with the organisation?
What qualified her to hold this position?
What educational studies has she undertaken to fulfil this role?
I ask these questions because if we are really serious about dealing with bulling, it has to be a co-ordinated approach that uses careful research and education of all the people involved in it.
If Ms Dawson decided that the best way to deal with bullies was to bully people right back, re tweet nasty comments, encourage her followers to go after and attack those who attacked her and to track down and out people to their employers and in their real lives I am concerned about who taught her that this is the way to respond and if she is a spokes person for an organisation, is that the message they asked her to spread?
Is that the message they are wanting to teach kids that are victims of bulling?
I am genuinely concerned about how this organisation made the decision to pick her as their ambassador and what due diligence they did in deciding who would be an appropriate role model and spokesperson for them.
If people want bullying to stop they need to look at the message the adults are sending.
It would seem that so far the message is either not working or is the wrong message.
Like Jamila,I don’t know what the answers are but something that might help is to start to disengage with the online world and start to engage in the real world again.
just one other thing. I have always been taught that no one can make you feel something. You are in charge of how you feel and how you react.
While the things that were said to Ms Dawson were terrible, I think she and her friends need to take some responsibility for allowing someone who has previously suffered from a mental illness to let a situation escalate to this point.
Why did none of her real life friends step in and put a stop to it? Remove her from the situation?
And why, instead of working on her recovery and her own preservation did she do a TV interview only hours after being admitted to a mental health ward and then go back again after the interview?In there really no one in her life that can pull her aside and give her some guidence?
If not I find that the saddest part of all of this.
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So well said, Jackson. Agree with all you have said.
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Well said. It would seem that the media are portraying Ms Dawson as being a victim of dreadful undeserved harassment while disregarding the fact that she has reportedly previously dished out her own serves of bile and vitriol, and are therefore painting her as an innocent victim of a band of bullies. Certainly, noone deserves the abuse she has been subjected to. However, Ms Dawson has actively taken a few steps of her own to ‘assist’ herself in being subjected to the abuse. As the author says, it is difficult to know exactly where the line is…
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why would she engage these bullies and respond..turn off twitter and the problem is solved..but Ms Dawson started this by making really rude comments about New Zealand in general….dishes it out but can’t take it. The problem with social media is is gives people power to say what they really think. Pauline Hanson tried it in parliment and look what happened to her..crucified for saying what everyone was thinking
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Hi Jamila
I love your writing! Thanks you so much for such a thought provoking article. You are a real talented addition to the MM team and must be an inspiration to work with. Xx
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Thanks Sarah. xx
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you don’t need to tell someone to go kill themselves to be a bully. CHarloote used her influence in the media to gain support for her issue – but did she need to publicly crucify someone to do it… no…
Everyone is so quick to say that this was a response to a troll that abused her but if you look closely at the actual line of events you will see that the user never actually had any contact with Ms Dawson of any kind until she responded to a tweet aimed directly at her…
Is the way to combat bullying really trying to beat someone into submission and get them fired? – that logic is flawed…
What happened to Charlotte makes me sick – I cannot understand how on earth some people could treat another person that way but perhaps this will help Charlotte to take a good hard look at herself and the way that she has acted in all of this and reformulate how she can do good work for her cause without it having to be at the expense of others and her own well-being
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Interesting perspective Anonymous. I know nothing about tweeting and don’t really get it so your information about the line of events is quite fascinating.
I wonder if social media is like an addiction for some people. It makes them do nutsy things to others and to themselves.
If you live alone and don’t have many close friends perhaps you lose perspective and the trolls become your reality and your head space.
I know how I feel when someone gives me the finger on the road. I feel outraged and distressed. And it’s all the worse if I feel that I’m in the right. But I should also say that when I’m in the wrong I’m happy to say sorry. Some people on the road are gracious. Others look like they want to kill you. It’s crazy out there (on the road) and it looks like it’s crazy on the internet too.
I wish Charlotte Dawson’s friends would spend some time letting her talk to them. She needs to do that rather than talk to the media right now. Too much is out there about her already. Mamamia team where are you?
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I was never a fan of Ms Dawson until she stood up to these ‘trolls’. Good on her I thought. Why do people hate her so much? She is what she is, she doesn’t hurt anyone and she is honest about what she does. At least she doesn’t pretend her looks are all sunscreen and good genes. So she had an abortion, big deal, heaps of women do, it’s a personal thing. LEAVE HER ALONE!!!!!
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Where all this cyber rage is coming from?
it used to be road rage that we had to worry about but now I see so much vile commenting/trolls on websites, its just appalling.
I know schools are already under pressure to cover so much in the curriculum already but maybe this is something that needs to be covered as well – online etiquette – what is acceptable and what is not.
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I see a similarity of kinds between domestic violence and online bullying – whilst the person being victimised is never to blame – they ultimately need to take responsibility for deciding whether to stay or leave a toxic situation.
I try to teach my kids to surround themselves with excellence – to practice self-respect and treat others with dignity. I encourage them to be their own best friend – to treat themselves kindly, don’t get drawn into judgemental gossip and don’t trash-talk others.
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I somewhat agree with this comment, especially what you are teaching ur children.
I think further to what you’ve written its societies role to empower the victims to take responsibility, through how we portray issues in the media, how we disucss these issues and how we treat people.
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I’m horrified by what happened to Charlotte Dawson, I think that she is a strong, independent lady and I love her work on tv, she always makes me laugh.
Social media has become a horrible platform to put people down nowadays and it’s just not on. I think sometimes with facebook, twitter and SmartPhones it has just made society a nastier place as weak people hide behind it, in most cases these trolls/bullies would never have the guts to say these things to ones face.
I’m 33 and have been bullied by an older woman on facebook, it made me laugh as well as hurt me and also it shocked me that a woman that age feels that’s how you treat people, what’s worse is she has a teenage daughter who’s mirroring her mothers antics to other teenage girls. I defriended this woman but I feel for teenagers who deal with this alot. It has become a horrible characteristic of our social media culture.
I dearly hope that with what has happened to Charlotte and many, many others that these trolls/bullies are dealt with by the law! It’s just too easy nowadays to hide behind the screen. It’s just so true ‘If you can’t say it to their face, don’t say it at all’.
I wish Charlotte all the best x
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The use of social media, like what was directed at Charlotte, was the reason I wrote a post about how we should ‘Use Social Media For Good Not Evil’. By no means am I trying to self-promote here, but how I feel is very long and probably not a suitable length for a comment. So here is the link if anyone is interested: http://ablogcalledeverything.blogspot.com.au/2012/08/use-social-media-for-good-not-evil.html
Police need more power to deal with social media issues. To me, abusing or threatening anyone online is just as bad (and a lot more gutless) as doing it in person. It’s not appropriate behaviour anywhere in our society. “If you haven’t got anything nice to say, don’t say it at all”.
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I was following Charlotte Dawson’s tweets on Wednesday night and could NOT BELIEVE the horrendous, revolting, nasty, vitriolic comments,etc, that were being posted. I don’t usually tweet myself but I felt like I had to show CD that not everyone was as mean as the trolls… So I sent her two supportive messages telling her to not feed the trolls and to keep her chin up… I hoped she would be ok but just before I went to bed I checked again and found the pic of the pills in her hand and the final messages… Was it irrational of me (we live in a small country town in WA) – the first thing I thought was ‘how do I call for an ambulance for her?’
Now I just feel very sad that there are people who feel it’s ok to behave like this…
So CD might have upset people with her comments regarding NZ etc, but there’s no need for the nastiness… What’s the famous quote? ‘I may not agree with what you are saying but I will defend to the death your right to say it…’ (i know it may be seen as hypocritical but I will add the caveat that if it’s ‘trollish’ or abusive, you forfeit that right)
Love to everyone and a speedy recovery to Miss Charlotte xxx
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I’m wondering why Charlotte decided to do an interview with 60 minutes just hours after checking into hospitat. Surely in her fragile state that isn’t a good idea? And won’t that just give the trolls more ammunition? Who is advising her here?
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mmmm, it’s all a bit of a mystery really , isn’t it. I hope she’s feeling better today.
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I mean, I love Charlotte and what the trolls did was inexcusable. Inexcusable.
But going straight on to do media interviews makes her look like an attention-seeker. It makes her look she can’t be in that bad a state that she has to be hospitalised.
It makes her look like everything the trolls want her to look like.
I am just so worried about that decision. I wish someone would sit down with her and give her some good advice.
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I’m not going to say what it looks like, I already did, and my comment got deleted. but I will say I’m glad she made such a fast recovery. it”s amazing really.
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I said what it looks like and am watching the clock to see how long my comment lasts on here….
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“Don’t write anything online that you wouldn’t be willing to say to someone in person.” Spot on.
However it works both ways.
I honestly believe that everyone needs to start really thinking about what they are putting out there on the internet. Everyone.
Every day people need to think before they comment or tweet or Facebook.
Media personalities need to realise they are seen as a brand and that the general public will not treat them like real people. It’s sad but it’s true. Having met Charlotte, she is a warm and generous person, however to many all they see is the ‘brand’ of the top model ruthless judge or ‘TV villian’. Using Twitter etc to build your brand can be a double edged sword.
Sites like Mamamia need to think before you publish a post. Is it really to engage in dinner party conversation and healthy debate, or is it going to enflame a long standing issue or stir up toxic emotions? For example, would Mia have told Cadel Evans to his face that she didn’t care about his Tour de France win just hours after his achievement? (Not having a go here – just trying to explain that even the most simplest comments can stir things up and that episode had a similar hateful response)
The internet has made it easier for everyday people to hate, scoff and ridicule people. Sometimes it becomes tragic and vile.
But we ALL need to be held accountable. Every single one of us.
Before you hit publish on anything you need to think ‘Can this hurt someone?’ If the answer is yes, you really need to think long and hard about whether it’s really worth it.
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It’s beyond horrific. At work I got my staff to upload a story from our nightly news to YouTube, and the comments were awful. The story my newsroom did about her tracking down the Monash University troll received a comment last night saying “Did you hear she’s in hospital now? What a c—” My poor colleague couldn’t get through all the cruel comments to properly moderate, so I told him to disable them.
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I wonder how those people now feel, knowing what their words resulted in?
I find (though obviously not always, as some people are jerks through and through), that people feel that what they write through the internet isn’t as hateful (or hurtful) as if they were to say it in person.
Don’t get me wrong – I believe that no matter what, attacking someone personally is not on, but it always surprises me how much people are taken aback and apologetic once they realise exactly how much their comment hurt you.
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Well written article with a good and wise message. Take responsibility for our actions is very sound advice. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you? That advice has been around for a long while. Be kind it costs us nothing.
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I wish Charlotte had been given, and taken, the same advice….
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After reading the twitters Charlotte received its obvious the morons behind it are very very screwed up. There was no remorse from these dastards even after Charlottes admittance to hospital. They are beyond cowardly, I hope you feel better soon Charlotte, you’re beautiful & successful & there will always be bitter twisted losers.Their anger is theirs alone, the hatred is really of themselves, it really has nothing to do with you. This is their stuff, their issues, don’t take it on as your own
I sincerely hope each of them are found and pulled out of the holes they live in and held fully accountable. Much love Charlotte.
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I work with countless young people who are being bullied, but there are three special girls in my life in the moment whose life online has gotten way out of control and I am sure they are going to learn a lot by reading this post. Thanks again Mia….
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This is something that worries and confuses me so much. My son is 11 and nearly all his friends have Facebook, but I refuse to let him have one. I know I can’t “wrap him in cotton wool” but I am so incredibly fearful to ever let him have an account before he is… 14, 15??
It’s just so scary seeing the things that kids write on Facebook. I want to protect my son from being bullied online. Does it terrify anyone else? Do you let your child use Facebook? Obviously we talk about Internet safety all the time, but the idea of him being hurt and bullied just scares me to death!!
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My sister is 15 now, but when she got facebook, we has a rule – someone in the family that she trusts must be a friend with full access to pictures + posts on her page. It’s not a silver bullet, but I’m able to see what people write on her wall or how they comment on her pics.
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Good for you! I’m hoping to keep my 2 kids away from f.b. and other social media until they are well into their teens.
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At 11, your son doesnt “need” to be facebook. He may want to but he is too young. My daughter joined facebook at 13 and in hindsight I wish I had made her wait longer.
Apart from the worry about bullying (of which there is a considerable amount – particularly in Year 7) facebook is very addictive and timewasting for teenagers.
Hold out for as long as you can and if/when you do finally allow him, insist on DMK’s rule
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I think there is a reason facebook asks for people to be at least 13 before they join. Just stick to that – everythinkg else is fraud. Not a good way to start your cyber live!
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I’ve always loved that quote from the Bill & Ted movies;
BE EXCELLENT TO EACH OTHER
Why can’t we just live like that ? Because, as much as I hate to say it, some humans suck.
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well-said.
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Beautiful article, Jamila. What Charlotte was exposed to was just awful – even if she’s guilty of mean and nasty things too,she didn’t deserve a mob of hatred. You’ve articulated the questions that we need to ask…. I wonder where we’ll go from here.
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I think anonymity on the Internet is incredibly important to our society, but when you start harassing and or/abusing people, you lose your right to that anonymity. There needs to be some way of protecting people’s anonymity except in cases where they are harassing and abusing people, then police should be involved. I have no idea how that would work though.
Perhaps social networking sites need to bear more responsibility for what their users write? They sure seem to take down pictures of women breastfeeding quickly!
I know several teenagers who have been subject to similar abuse as Charlotte, and sadly a few of those kids have had serious mental health issues as a result. It’s terrible and something really needs to be done about it.
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As soon as the authorities/police potentially have access to your identity then the social media tools become useless for those who live under oppressive governments.
In practice it is impossible to both be able to verify someone’s identity and at the same time make these tools available to everyone around the world.
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