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Mia Freedman. George Pell.

By MIA FREEDMAN

Is there any crime more heinous than child abuse? If there is, I don’t want to know about it.

Legally, every Australian who suspects or knows about a case of child abuse is required by law to report it to the police.

It’s mandatory.

Unless you’re a Catholic priest and someone tells you about child abuse in the confessional, in which case you’re totally free to do nothing.

No need to mention it.

Even if the abuse is still occurring.

Even if a child – or children – are in danger of further abuse.

Even if a child’s life has been destroyed and nobody is able to help them because they are too frightened, ashamed and traumatised by the abuse to say anything.

Priests are not bound by the same laws as the rest of society – including doctors, teachers and counsellors. So the church is effectively a safehouse for pedophiles who can ‘confess’ to their crimes and receive absolution without consequence.

They are then free to re-offend. Their secrets – their CRIMES – will always be kept away from authorities. They will be protected.

Surely, this is madness.

And never has this madness been highlighted so clearly as this week, when it became clear that child abuse in the Catholic Church has been so systemic over such a long period of time and has been so well covered up by so many individuals, that the Government has been forced to announce a Royal Commission into child sex abuse.

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Prime Minister Julia Gillard making the Royal Commission announcement

While Julia Gillard has been politically careful to point out that the parameters of the Royal Commission are more far-reaching than just the Catholic Church (it will also look into child abuse in all institutions including schools, community groups, foster homes etc), make no mistake: this is about the Church and the literal get-out-of-jail free card they wield when it comes to protecting paedophiles.

Watching Cardinal George Pell’s press conference yesterday – the same day yet another Catholic brother was arrested in NSW for child sex offenses – was an exercise in trying not to yell at the TV.

I was struck by the sight and sound of an old, arrogant man, woefully out of touch with public attitudes towards child abuse, a man who was desperately trying to justify the ongoing and systemic crimes that have been allowed to flourish within the Church he runs.

A man seemingly without compassionate for the victims of sex abuse by people who held sacred positions of trust.

As broadcaster Derryn Hinch wrote on his blog:

This is the head of the Catholic Church in Australia who several days ago couldn’t see the point of a  federal  Royal Commission. At a press conference today Cardinal Pell said he still would not favour an investigation into the Catholic  Church alone. But welcomed a broad-based one on the basis it seems that it would show ‘we weren’t the only ones  doing it’.

He actually said today that a Royal Commission would clear things up because  ‘we object to being called the only cab on the rank’. He said it.

I felt like shouting at the TV set:  You’re not. But most of the cabs for the past forty years have been Catholic ones, and the majority of  drivers are yours and  they can’t be trusted with innocent  children’.

He even had the gall to try to make us somehow responsible  for the suffering of victims. Pell said one question had to be asked: ‘ Are victims helped by the continuing furore in the Press? Should old wounds be re-opened?

That part was truly staggering.

To suggest that victims of sex abuse by Catholic clergy would be better served by it remaining covered-up?

To suggest the media should never have aired the disturbing accusations of whistle blowers such as Senior Detective Inspector Peter Fox who stated, “I can testify from my own experience that the church covers up, silences victims, hinders police investigations, alerts offenders, destroys evidence and moves priests to protect the good name of the church.” ?

That is simply repugnant and self-serving in the extreme.

This from News Limited:

Addressing the media in Sydney in relation to the royal commission into child sex abuse, Cardinal Pell explained church protocol for priests who confess to child sex abuse to another priest.

“If that is done outside the confessional (it can be passed on),” he said.

“(But) the Seal of Confession is inviolable.”

Is it any wonder that pedophilia has been allowed to fester, seemingly unchecked, for so many decades? The idea that victims of abuse would be better served by silence and that bringing perpetrators to justice would ‘open old wounds’ for victims is appalling.

Surely it’s time that we take away from priests the outrageous exemption from mandatory reporting of child abuse. Surely the rights of vulnerable children must transcend those of criminal adults who prey on children and have an expectation they’ll be protected by the law.

Enough. It’s time that the law was changed.

In an article for The Herald Sun yesterday, writer Susie O’Brien wrote exactly that:

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We need an urgent change to state laws.

We need an urgent change to state laws to ensure mandatory reporting includes priests and other religious figures. At present, it’s confined just to doctors, nurses, teachers and police.

But mandatory reporting by priests is absolutely meaningless unless claims made in the confessional are included.

You would think the Catholic Church wouldn’t want to absolve paedophiles, but to hand them over to authorities. And yet the church wants to allow confessions by child abusers, or confessions by those involved in the cover-up of child abuse, then take no further action than a few Hail Marys.

It is outrageous.

The church maintains that paedophiles wouldn’t confess if they knew a priest would tell the police. But so what? The entire purpose of the confessional is to absolve and pardon someone for their sins: to offer, as one priest put it, “divine forgiveness and healing”.

Enough with the coverups. Enough with the self-serving justification. And enough with Catholic priests being immune from this most basic of child protections: mandatory reporting of child sexual abuse.

Note: In the past 24 hours several politicians have also expressed their concern for the rule that allows members of the church to be exempt from the mandatory reporting of child sexual abuse.

Bill Shorton said: “What immunity can you claim when it comes to the safety and protection of little children? When it comes to the abuse of children, that privilege, if it ever had validity, is well and truly exhausted.”

Christopher Pyne also said priests had a responsibility to report the crimes that are revealed to them in confession. “If a priest hears in a confessional a crime, especially a crime against a minor, the priest has the responsibility in my view to report that to the appropriate authorities,” he said.

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  1. Lecky

    I didn’t realise child abuse and molestation was in the same category as ‘stealing a pen’.

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  2. Serious thought

    Priest don’t do nothing. They forgive them of that sin. After that penance is required and the penance is probably to pray, ask god for forgiveness, then go to the police and report their crime.
    If you require the priest to report large crimes then there’s no stopping governments from forcing them to report small stuff such as stealing a pencil. The forgiven thief would then be trialled as a criminal even if they have paid back the pencil and never sin again.
    Would you like to be tried for a crime you did seven years ago and regret with all your heart, which you were going to confess to the person. Think before you answer.

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  3. Isabella

    I find this article perplexing. There seems to be no thought given to the actual nature of the Catholic religion let alone the practical outcomes, or lack there of, if Priests were forced to break the seal.

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    • Rebecca

      Isn’t their nature to be the moral compass in society? Surely ‘breaking the seal’ in order to report gross illegal behaviour committed against the most vulnerable of their flock they are actually staying true to their cause and purpose in society. If confession simply functions as a way for priests to cover up terrible crimes then what is its point and how can they maintain their moral standing?

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      • Pat

        The sin is between them and god in the confessional. The priest is their to give gods message. It is between the sinner and god alone. And god would have that person tell the police and forgive them.

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  4. Sarah

    Whilst our moral outrage is justifiable, what is also needed is a reasoned, thoughtful and evidence-based response to this pernicious societal problem.

    Annable Crabb’s article hit the nail on the head when she recognised that “the debate about the confessional is more symbolic than practical” and that the royal commission is “not about hauling in priests and asking them to list the names of paedophile colleagues” but rather “about victims, and hearing their stories, and uncovering instances where powerful organisations – be they religious or secular – have used their own structures and influence to help offenders evade justice.”
    Also, mandatory reporting is not Australia-wide. Each state has its own definitions of who mandatory reporters include, with only the NT having all adults as mandatory reporters, even if on principle we think all adults should be mandatory reporters.

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  5. Sarah

    While our outrage about this abuse is justified, what is needed is a thoughtful, reasoned and evidence-based response to this pernicious societal problem .

    Annabel Crabb hits the nail on the head in her article this week when she recognises that “the debate about the confessional is more symbolic than practical”
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-16/crabb-stopping-abuse-goes-way-beyond-the-confessional/4374522

    Also, just wanted to point out that mandatory reporting for all adults is not Australia-wide and only exists in the NT. All states have different reporting requirements and definitions of who mandatory reporters are, even if morally we agree with the principle of mandatory reporting for all.

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  6. anon

    Wow, I’m really sad that this post has turned into such a hateful stream of anti-Catholicism.

    We should be outraged at the individuals who committed these crimes and the ones who helped cover them up, not Catholics as a whole.

    The people who did these to these innocent children would have likely committed these crimes even if they were not part of the clergy. Paedophiles are opportunistic and resourceful in fulfilling their sick pleasure.

    I don’t think I should have to add this to my post, but I’m sure it will be asked in the replies, I am not Catholic.

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  7. Cath

    What does the Pope think about child sexual abuse in his church? This article from 2010 is pretty telling and pretty damning! http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/pope-pedophilia-was-fully-in-conformity-with-man-and-even-with-children/religion/2010/12/29/16545

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  8. Pat

    “Should old wounds be re-opened?” assumes that the wounds have healed. From what I have read, child sexual abuse victims do not heal quickly or easily.
    Also the Catholic church must realise that priests are not in the same cohort as doctors or lawyers. There is a vast difference between keeping confidences for legal and medical reasons and to ease one’s conscience.
    Finally, we are a sectarian nation. If we give special treatment to priests, we must also pay the same standard to worship leaders of other religions.

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  9. S

    A great response by Perth’s Archbishop Timothy Costello.

    No denial here. He is up for revealing the truth.

    http://www.therecord.com.au/news/local/archbishop-welcomes-royal-commission-announcement/

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  10. jec

    The Catholic Church (and all churches) would be a better place if Jesus’ “Two Great Commandments” were followed, especially the second one. They are:

    “Love the Lord God with all your heart”.
    and
    “Love your neighbours as yourself”.

    Loving your neighbours as yourself, to me, means no abuse of any kind.

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    • Andrew

      “Loving your neighbour as yourself” means a lot more than that.

      It means the words of Jesus: “Love one another as I have loved you”.

      Lets not water it down, it means total giving of yourself to others according to the will of God.

      You can find this kind of love hanging on a cross.

      We would all be saints if we could live this love. Can we find just a few more Saints in Australia?

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    • Pat

      That’s all. Doesn’t mean no killing no theft no hating. Because even if you aren’t a child abuser you can break those “2 great commandments”. Do you get mad at people. You broke it. Do you want things more than you want your friend to succeed. You broke it. Unless you utterly devote yourself to god, then you will break these. And you will need to ask forgiveness from god. Would you like god to tell everyone every sin you have committed.

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  11. Amandarose

    I find this article really a bit Catholic bashing. The catholic Chuch is made of of all sorts of people. Some oviously very bad but many many very good. My husbands family are catholic and include a nun and a priest( who baptised my son) and I think they just about as fabulous as it gets. The priest has a history as a teacher, a pilot then a Dr before becoming a priest and dedicating his life to running a hospital in Paupa New Guinea. I resent people blaiming “the Catholic Church” like they are some sect hell bent on abuse.
    There are bad people and bad management and bad decisions that have happened and thing oviously need to change. But I do not blaim Cardinal Pell defending all the good people in his church and standing up for his religion. He has admitted the faults and apologised for the abuse so I really feel this article is abit unjust.
    As for the confession thing- Does it make a difference? Oviously people wouldn’t confess if they new the would be sent to court and at least this way the priest can try his best to stop it.

    Now the real issue that needs to be addressed is prevention. That is what makes the difference.

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    • Guest

      No it’s not. Prevention is the next issue after we investigate exactly what went on from as many people as possible, and most importantly, how and why it was allowed to continue on such an industrial scale, the world over, for so long, without consequence.

      I am genuinely surprised at the denial of how bad this institutionalised abuse has turned out to be, going on by many church supporters on this thread. Where is the shock? Where is the acknowledgement? Where is the shame for the several thousands of lives destroyed by their holier than thou? On their very doorstep!

      I’m sorry to say that nobody is moving on without it.

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      • Amandarose

        prevention needs to start before then- it could take ten years and things can be put in place now.

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        • sipper

          I am with Guest. Amandarose why are you not incredibly outraged with waht has happened within the Church. Cathoilcs with any morality should leave the Church immediately. They can do good work outside this dysfunctional organisation.

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          • Amandarose

            Should Muslims leave their faith because of suicide bombers? It is ridiculous good people getting blamed and shamed because of perverts and creepy men? I am outraged that these crimes are covered up but I on’t blame all Catholics for it.

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  12. Andrew

    The Catechism of the Catholic Church lists four components that are required for a valid confession: repentance, confession to a priest, penance and absolution by the priest.

    In the case of Child sexual abuse priests should use the latest available research on the psychology of paedophiles to determine if they really are capable of repentance (ie, a complete change and determination not to sin again). It seems that some of them simply aren’t due to the way their brains are wired. Also, it is not out of the question for a priest to give as penance a requirement for that person to turn themselves into the authorities before absolution is given, as penance includes repairing the damage you have done. Priests can refuse absolution and some of the most saintly priests have done so for the good of the soul who came to them.

    It is only in the strict confines of a confession that a priest is bound to confidentiality, not in any other circumstance. So lets not make them out to be bogeymen. It is a question of a person’s soul and eternal judgement, and so this topic requires thoughtful discussion. It is not a topic to rave on about just because you don’t like the arrogance of Cardinal Pell, which I don’t either.

    The confessional can be a place of great goodness, not just mercy. it can actually assist in the protection of children if Bishops and Priests took each part of the process seriously on these most serious of issues, and were clear about what they can do to ensure the safety of children and guiding the confessor to face justice. An Act of Contrition, Our Father, Hail Mary and Glory Be are simply not good enough and all priests should know this.

    Like others have said, mandatory reporting would simply stop these people coming to confession, which is the only place on Earth that I see a desparate soul, even one that has committed such great evil, can try and find a scrap of redemption. Two possible consequences of mandatory reporting are that the paedophile will not seek to repent and keep on doing what he has been doing, or the priest could ignore the law and risk going to jail.

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    • Guest

      Many years ago, I watched Catholic friends ‘sinning’ by drinking, taking God’s name in vain, etc etc. They’d go to confession on Saturday, mass on Sunday morning and by Sunday afternoon be doing all the same things again. Neither my friends or the priests seemed very interested in anyone really changing their ways. There didn’t even appear to be true remorse.
      It’s not hard to see how abusers proliferated in this culture.

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      • Pat

        God can still forgive them if they truly repent, if not they’re not truly sorry for their sins and aren’t forgiven.

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  13. Anonymous

    Anglican children’s home, women abusers.

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/having-lived-through-hell-i-hope-true-light-is-now-about-to-shine/story-e6frezz0-1226516861720

    Just in the interest off balance.

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  14. lisa

    well said

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  15. Ali Flint

    After such a long discussion, we ought to ask ourselves just what kind of person takes upon himself a profession, namely priesthood, where they are forbidden to report child abuse. Surely a functioning conscience couldn’t accept a job like this and the priests themselves should have rectified their terms of service long ago.

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  16. Anonymous

    How about the teaching profession and other denominations reveal their numbers of child sex abuse cases like the Catholic Church has done. Then we can compare apples to apples. In the United States, teachers abuse more than twice the rate of Catholic priests. Of course you’ll say that it doesn’t matter because that’s the United States but it’s all the more reason to have this commission so that EVERYONE cleans up their act.

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    • Miss

      I’m sorry, when has the Catholic Church revealed the number of child molestation cases? The Church covers them up. The teaching profession, of which I am a member (for the record, I’m also Catholic, though I don’t teach in the Catholic system), is absolutely accountable! There have certainly been some evil teachers who have violated their students and that is sickening, however teachers are mandatory reporters. If a student came to me with a claim about another teacher I would absolutely, immediately follow procedure and report it! Unfortunately, as George Pell has maintained, Catholic priests do not and will not protect children by holding their abusers to account…

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      • Pat

        Accountable! How do we know you not a pervert and your school covers it up because it’s full of you and it’s afraid of lawsuits.

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    • rebecca

      Actually you can go to the Teacher’s Registration Board in each state and find this information out. It’s a matter of public record and regularly published.

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      • Pat.

        So, you can find all child molesters that have been accused. Doesn’t mean all perverted teachers are found.

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  17. Anna von Marburg

    Do you actually understand that the whole idea of the confessional is that it is anonymous? The priest doesn’t even know who the person is! I’m sure you won’t print this.

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    • Miss

      I’m Catholic and have been to confession, many times. Of course the priest knows who is there! My priest used to greet me by name…

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  18. KTT

    My husband went to a Catholic primary and High School. At the time, his (boys only) high school was administratively run by brothers/priests as well as being the teachers of the school. After he graduated, one of his teachers (priest) was identified, charged and convicted of abusing students.

    This school did the right thing. They overhauled the school. Priests were no longer in positions of running the school. They slowly replaced the teachers so the majority of the teachers were no longer priests but followed the ethos of catholic teaching.

    At this school, the abuse came to light as another priest reported the abuse as a student reported the behaviour to him. So please don’t broad brush the behaviour of some priests with all priests.

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  19. Karen

    I think the furore surrounding the sanctity of a confessional is a furphy. The number of Catholics following traditional catholic practices (which would include visiting and confessing their sins to their local parish priest within a confessional) is in serious decline. The church has been very open about the serious issues they have attracting young people to traditional services and practices.

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  20. Sandra

    Blood oath Mia. It is an appalling disgrace that the confessional is exempt from an obligation to report one of the most heinous crimes that can ever be perpetrated. But then I think the whole idea of the confessional is absurd in itself. To think that one really believes that one can be absolved of one’s sins by confessing to some ordinary bloke who perpetuates the myth of a sky faerie by saying a few hail mary’s. It is childish, selfish and ignorant. For too long the well being of the victims of systematic abuse by Catholic clergy has taken a back seat to the welfare of the clergyMEN and the reputation of the Catholic Church.

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  21. Trine

    I don’t believe that forcing priests to share confessions of crimes will fix the situation; people currently confess because they know it will go no further – take this away and people will simply stop confessing.

    As a Catholic, it’s very hard to reconcile these sins/crimes with God’s idea of forgiveness. It’s hard to accept God absolving people of these sins, especially the ones who “spread the good word”. It’s one of many issues I have with the Catholic church of today, don’t even get me started. But, like I believe priests are just human “conductors” spreading God’s word with their own human, male, interpretation, who am I to be judge and jury on what God should and shouldn’t forgive?

    Would a lawyer also be forced to report their client’s confession to the police? Lawyers aren’t bound by faith, but their oath……how really different is it when you think about it?

    I guess there just has to be another way. We wouldn’t make a doctor or a lawyer break their hippocratic oath…….a priest shouldn’t be subjected to the religious equivalent. But the church’s hierarchy should absolutely NOT be going out of their way to cover up and hide evidence and obstruct the course of justice.

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    • Anonymous

      It’s taken 220 comments but we finally have the definitive one. Thank you Trine.

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      • Anonymous

        That’s one person’s opinion, certainly not mine so not sure how it can be ‘definitive’.

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        • Fiona

          I agree with Trine and I said it further down as well… people will simply stop going to confession. And then this won’t solve anything. It’s a futile issue.

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          • rebecca

            No, people who have committed horrendous crimes will stop going to confession. Do you really think that the legal system is interested in whether you have committed adultary or blasphemy? If priests aren’t going to report and take a moral stand on the horrendous crime of child abuse then maybe their role in society is null and void. Practice what you preach.

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    • rebecca

      I think the examples you mentioned are hardly the same. For example the hippocratic oath is about doing ‘no harm’, not covering up the harm perpetrated by others and while lawyers can’t necessarily report their client’s confession to police they aren’t allowed to commit perjury and so aren’t allowed to submit evidence to contradict what their client has told them. Also, their client has obviously had charges laid against them and is going through the judicial system and therefore has a chance of being convicted. Again, this is hardly the same, as the lawyer isn’t actively covering up a crime and preventing it from even coming to the judicial systems attention. So why would I expect a priest to break their oath on reporting child abuse to the legal system. Because they are suppose to be people’s guide through moral dilemnas, they are supposed to look after their ‘flock’, not each other at the expense of their ‘flock’. Because we’re talking about children being abused time and time again and it is more than reasonable, good and moral to stop that from happening. And at the end of the day we expect that religion should be about being reasonable, protective, good and moral. And if it’s not going to be these things what is it’s purpose?

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  22. AnonA

    swap ‘catholic’ for ‘muslim’ and half the comments below would not have made it through the moderators. it’s one thing to be critical and quite another to name call. a very sad debate below.

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    • Amandarose

      I was thinking the same thing. Their would be an outrage if Muslims were pin pointed for a royal commission but Catholics are fair game apparently.

      I think we can agree it is not the religion that is the issue rather bad people not bad religions

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      • Guest

        No, we can’t agree. A problem area can most definitely be pinpointed on the catholic church. There are others, of course there are, but the prolific abuse at the catholic church as an institution, worldwide, is the issue here. Not the hypotheticals.

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        • Serious thought

          Pinpoint the Catholic Church, more Protestants molest children than Catholics and even more parents who will never be tried.

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      • rebecca

        All institutions are being pin pointed for this Royal Commission not just the Catholics. Cardinal Pell decided to shine a further light on the catholic church with his opinions on the sanctity of the confessional.

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  23. Anonymous

    Want to be a paedophile, become a Catholic priest, may they all burn in hell.

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    • mummak

      Or you could be a teacher, mentor, Mum, Dad, relative, next door neighbour, coach, random person down the street…

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  24. Liz

    There are many good people who belong to the catholic church community – its how I grew up. But, there is ZERO integrity in a system that brings people in good faith, to participate in spiritual practice on one hand, and on the other, participates in sexual abuse and then works to cover it up. Completely and utterly unacceptable, from a grass roots level.

    So I say to all the good catholics out there, rather than quietly go back to usual programming, get completely OUTRAGED and insist on a flushing out of the church hierarchy. Starting with Pell. Blow the roof off YOUR catholic church. It’s only strong because of its followers.

    It’s up to the catholic people. Take a stand – and be that voice for all those within your church who have suffered. It’s your church, so own the responsibility that comes with being part of its community and make a difference. If you just go back to normal programming, NOTHING WILL CHANGE.

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    • sipper

      Agree Liz it is the moral responsibilty of all Catholics who send their kids to Catholic schools and attend churchs to take action now. Many Catholics I know seem very weak and browbeaten when it comes to making a moral stand. As someone who was raised a Catholic I can see just how successful the lifelong indocrination by the Catholic church produces obedient sheep.

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  25. Anonymous

    My ex-hubby is a victim – he was fondled at 5, made to give oral sex at 7 and anally raped at 12 – and that’s only what he’s admitted, there could be more. It’s ruined his life, it ruined our relationship. He struggles to hold down jobs & be a responsible human being let alone be a supportive Dad. Those priests and his uncle took so much more than their own pleasure – they took his darling life, his soul, and tore it to shreds.

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    • sipper

      This Royal Commission had to happen for you and your ex husband. I am sure we will hear terrible stories that have to be heard. For the apologists for the Catholic Church that are on this post and already blah blahing about bias against Catholics you have no shame. You are part of the problem and will be exposed by the facts as they come out over the next few years.

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      • Amandarose

        theAmandaroseThe Catholics did not rape this man a dodgy ring of priests did. bad men who To blame not the everyday good catholic.

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        • guest

          Please show some compassion Amandarose – they teach that in the catholic church don’t they?

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    • True

      Ever think that your husband might have been a failure anyways and your making excuses for your mistake

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  26. MiniM

    It seems to me that you have taken one statement and fabricated a whole world of hate and bias out of it.

    I’m not a Catholic but I work for a Catholic organisation and I see the good they do first hand. I’d be interested to know if the same could be said about their detractors.

    The fact is, paedolphiles gravitate towards children. It was the churches who set up orphanages and schools. The paedolphiles used the churches, scout groups, sporting organizations, single mothers to gain access to children. They were not invited in.

    Here is the link to Pelk’s statement

    http://www.catholicweekly.com.au/article.php?classID=1&subclassID=2&articleID=11214&class=Latest%20News&subclass=CW%20National

    I’d also like to say what a convenience diversion this inquiry is for Ms Gillard.

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    • Bored of Burwood

      Amazing, isn’t it? Anything the PM does now is seen as a distraction. I suppose it’s completely outside of the realms of possiblity that she’s doing this because it’s the right thing to do, is it?

      What would you like her to do, apart from resign?

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  27. Regrets..

    And whilst this inquiry is underway into abuse in previous decades, what of the Aboriginal kids NOW who are enduring such horrors. As reported in in News Ltd today:

    Brian Gleeson, the federal Co-ordinator-General for Remote Indigenous Services, warned in May that rates of sexual abuse of children in one Aboriginal community in South Australia was “in excess of 50 per cent and it could be as high as 75 per cent”.

    Where is the outrage when this is occuring now?? Under our noses?

    And what about the study recently completed that found in Western Australia’s Kimberley region that half of babies there are born with disabilities from foetal alcohol spectrum disorder. That’s 50%. That’s an absolute outrage.

    Don’t get me wrong – any organisation, the Catholic Church included, needs to be answerable. But we have a situation occuring now where the media seems to be turning a blind eye. Why is the (left) media ignoring this? Will this only come to light in 40 years like the Catholic Church abuse??

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    • Amandarose

      Very real issues that do go under the radar. great comment

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  28. Regrets...

    As said in a piece in The Age today, this confession bit is a red herring. I seriously doubt priests are confessing their crimes to fellow priests. Let’s stick to the main objective here. Bringing criminals to justice.

    And a lot of commentators below seem to think that every bloody priest is a child absuer. THEY ARE NOT. Nor are they all involved in some elaborate cover up. Yes, the senior levels of the Church have a lot to answer for but MOST parish priests are flat out doing masses, last rites, attending to school matters and other local support services.

    It would be nice, for a change, to see a piece on what Catholics do in other areas of life i.e refugees. But this site seems to be very anti Catholic. If the Catholics decided to pack up with their bat and ball and go home many of the worlds most disadvantaged wouldn’t be better off.

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  29. Guest

    The Catholic church is broken – and has been for many years now as news has dribbled in of the most repugnant abuse worldwide, by priests in their thousands, and countless more victims. I blame them (poor victims they are) for their unsurpassed hypocrisy and contempt for the society they have been pretending to serve. I will never understand how so many could get away with it for so long. As for Pell, the truth will catch up with him too.

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  30. Suki

    Do these priests believe in God? Do they believe in Hell?

    Surely they know that these disgusting crimes will see them firmly ensconced down below in the fires. Or do they believe that once they confess their crimes to another priest they are absolved? Perhaps if they knew that NO confession was available to them they might be more fearful of their God.

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  31. Kathryn

    There should be an inquiry into step-fathers. I bet far more children have been abused at their hands than at the hands of priests.

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  32. Oceans

    Anyone who covers up the crime is just as guilty as the perpetrator.

    As an athiest, I’m constantly angered by the role of religion in society and the negative effect it has had. What good has it brought society really?

    Wars, abuse, bigotry, deceit, mind games, control.

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    • Anonymous

      Father Chris Riley might be a good place to start in disabusing you of your ignorance, oceans.

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    • Kathryn

      My abuser was an atheist. My saviour was the catholic church.

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    • MiniM

      So glad to read that you condemn cover ups, ocean. Heiner is a coverup most foul and when the cauldron comes to the boil there will be some big names in it. I presume, once you’ve acquainted yourself with the facts, you’ll be screaming for the truth to be told and justice done for a young Aboriginal girl.

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    • belle

      What good has religion bought to society?

      The Catholic Church, without question, is the largest contributor of Charity services in Australia. And across the world. These are charity services to religious people, non religious people and everything in between.

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    • Isabella

      The Catholic Church is the largest provider of Charity services in Australia.
      Providing food, shelter, social services, community support amongst other things to millions of religious and non religious people each year.

      That’s what good the Church has brought to society.

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  33. Jo

    This is tricky to write, because it’s such a heartbreaking & sensitive issue. But just putting a few thoughts out there:

    As mentioned below, there are times when priests manage to talk abusers into turning themselves in, or in some cases, help them stop this behaviour with regular spiritual counselling (some abusers are actually seeking help when they speak with a priest). But, even if they stop their abusive behaviour, it still seems unfair that they go unpunished, doesn’t it? But so do so many that never go to confession.

    I’m not sure that mandatory reporting of crimes by priests will help the issue in the long-term. If this is the case, abusers will not confess their crimes (knowing they’re going to be locked up). Why would they confess in church, knowing they may as well confess in a police station?

    On the other hand, what would a priest do if the confessed abuse was directed at a close family member? Keep mum? Notify the parents?

    My heart goes out to all victims and families of victims of abuse.

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    • whtevr

      as far as i know this kind of people never heal, it is nothing to do with belief or being ashamed of themselves, it is uncontrollable urge anywhere anytime as soon as they have the opportunity:( it is very sad but thats what it is professionals says. so one who hears the confession or anything revealed from victims to anyone they should be reported immediately for the sake of future victims at least.

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  34. Boo

    Ive struggled all day with how to write this and I’m still not sure I can actually get my point across without being jumped on. But here goes…

    What has happened within the Catholic Church is a disgrace plain and simple. There can be no excuses for the behaviour of many and the assistance of covering up this behaviour by many more. Countless young lives have been ruined and the suffering continues. There should be utter transparency from this moment forward and I welcome the Royal Commission.

    However, this abhorrent behaviour is not the Catholic faith and belief and it is not what thousands of people in Australia and millions around the globe go to church to celebrate. I feel there is an unreasonable amount of anger and vitriol directed at general Catholics in the comments below. MOST Catholics are regular people who feel they receive spiritual benefits from going to church and being part of a like minded community. Faith is a very strong part of their lives and they share that faith with others. You don’t have to believe or understand it but that is their choice and one they are entitled to.

    The important distinction here is that their faith and catholic beliefs are a separate entity to church hierarchy and doctrine. Faith goes beyond that which is why a lot of people still identify as catholic without agreeing with and necessarily following every bit of church doctrine. I can pretty much guarantee that most people who attend church, send their children to catholic schools or are involved in the catholic community do not for one second condone the abusers or anyone involved in any sort of cover up. This does not mean that they aren’t allowed to identify as catholic or need to instantly shun their faith.

    I wonder if anyone understands what I’m trying to say…to separate the beliefs and community from the man made side of the church. In the interests of full disclosure I was raised catholic, went to catholic schools and then taught in the catholic school system. I struggle with my faith a lot as there is SO MUCH about the structures of the church I don’t agree with and question, but to me these are kind of like the scaffolding that needs to be pulled down to reveal the true and strong structure behind it. To be honest I’m not sure what I even think about that anymore either as I don’t go to church and my children don’t go to catholic schools. Like I said, I struggle, but I don’t deny for millions of other people they don’t struggle and they are entitled to that.

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    • Katek

      Well said and I understand.

      I’m a collapsed Catholic who only uses the church for the education of my children.

      Tomorrow morning I’m going back. I’m off to morning Mass.

      The Catholic Church has done so much good and the nuns have educated so many successful ‘feminist’ women thati feel it my duty to support them. Not the paedophiles, but the good people of the faith.

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    • Anonymous

      Thanks for posting this as it was interesting to read for me, but I think ‘struggle’ is the operative word when talking about Catholics.

      So many Catholics I know, in my family, friendship circle or otherwise, struggle with their faith – everything from the atrocities with sexual abuses cases to the guilt that you shouldn’t eat meat on a Friday.

      ‘Catholic guilt’ is rife and it’s another thing I resent about the religion.

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    • Anonymous

      I’ve always thought of religious institutions as man made constructs – built on arbitrary rules and customs designed entirely by humans and not necessarily reflecting the valid and true teachings of the religion itself. Case in point – prioritising the sacrosanctity of confession over protecting the victims. From a former Catholic.

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    • Trine

      Boo, you’ve voiced my thoughts & feelings so more eloquently than I’ve been able to – I haven’t commented on this article because I just couldn’t get the words right.

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      • Agreed

        I thought the article said why they should report. Not “I hate Catholics and so can you”

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  35. Anonymous

    While many of these posts relate to priests confessing their sins in confession, the likelihood of this occurring is minimal. Most do not view their “sin” as being a problem and seem to justify it behind the veil of religion. What is certain is that many innocent children have used the confessional to reveal their traumas at the hands of these awful men and it hasn’t been reported. In fact many enter the confessional (as a dear friend of mine did) feeling like they have a sin to confess when we all know they have nothing to feel ashamed of. Instead of reporting the crime the priest can dismiss the confession and therein lies the problem. The child goes away feeling even more ashamed, broken and often that it is his/her fault, nothing is done to help them and the perpetrator remains protected by the seal of the confessional and is free to keep offending. The church needs to be held to the same standards as the rest of the community. All people working with children who suspect child abuse of any kind need to report it. A reflection of our society is how we treat our most vulnerable and sadly the church and many other institutions are failing in this.

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  36. Faybian

    I’m happy to be corrected here, but as someone who IS legally obliged to report child abuse I was only aware that others such as police officers, school principals, doctors and the like (not sure about child care workers) were also legally obliged to report child abuse. Is there a moral obligation on everyone to report child abuse? Hell yes, but I didn’t think it was a legal one…..

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  37. Anonymous

    My sons were both taught by a pedophile at an exclusive Anglican school.

    They are everywhere and the sanctuary of the confessional is the least of our problems.

    Mia, if you want to be outraged, rather than just point out the obvious, why not start listing the appallingly pathetic sentences handed out?

    How about the ABC’s Andrew Muirhead!

    13000odd images and videos of children as young as three being sodomised by adults, including sadomasochism.

    Nine months. Out in seven.

    That, to me, is OBSCENE.

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    • Guest

      Hang on – he didn’t personally ‘abuse’ anyone did he?

      Obscene it may be, but there is a massive difference between looking at it and actually doing it.

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      • jb expat

        Supporting a despicable (for lack of a better word) industry – I’m sure there is file sharing/payments/trades and who knows what else. The penalty imposed is no where near enough – life in prison and chemical castration…that’s a start. I see that as the minimum sentence for “participating” in the industry! Just because there’s no penalty harsh enough for the abusers doesn’t mean that people who “just view” should receive less harsh sentences. Sentences should reflect societies view – I bet most of society would want to lock someone like this up for life.

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      • Emma

        You have to be joking.

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        • Guest

          Nope, I’m not joking. A life sentence and castration for ‘looking’ at something disgusting? That’s about as reactionary as it gets.

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          • jb expat

            Just looking – you are way out of touch with how most of society feels about this. The number of images – what they mean for the children in the images – having such acts performed on them… I would not put “just” before any description of such abhorrent behaviour – is the observer really any “better” on some abnormal scale than the perpetrator? I think not.

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            • Guest

              One last comment for JB:

              This crime is most certainly disgusting. But yes I think the observer is one step up from the perpetrator. If you are telling me this is on the scale of say, Jimmy Savile, who acted out his sick fantasies for many years on hundreds of victims, then I think some perspective is called for.

              I note the Judge in the case said ‘It was not the worst of cases’, but ‘The court must condemn what he did by imposing imprisonment.’

              There are degrees of culpability and levels of severity, of course there are.

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          • Anonymous

            Agree. Life without parol. Not out in my mind.

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          • Cath

            How do you know he didn’t act? What just because no-one has come forward yet? My ex father in law only went to goal because I rang operation paradox, his victims were too frightened to. If by some miracle Andrew Muirhead hadn’t raped a child yet it was only a matter of time with that amount of disgusting imagery in is possession. Of course he deserved a bigger goal sentence.

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  38. Ml

    The Catholic Church will be dragged through the mud but the ped rings have already moved on from there.

    Old men will be dragged through the courts – good – but the new breed will get on with business as usual.

    My experience shows two distinct areas – true pedophilia and the grooming of homosexuals in their mid teens.

    Young homosexuals are easy targets for predatory homosexuals who may not technically be pedophiles. While true pedophiles confine their deviance to young children.

    Either way, it’s the judiciary and sentencing that the inquiry should start with.

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  39. essessesse

    I’ve met Pell on a couple of occasions. He has an air of cool superiority. No warmth in his manner, no humility, unapproachable.Very self important for a man who is a servant of God. All he seems to care about is protecting ‘the brand’. He’s said nothing to make me believe he cares about the victims. I hope he falls to earth with a massive thud.

    And now I see he wants access to a court file of an alleged victim.

    http://www.smh.com.au/victoria/pell-moves-to-secure-sex-trial-file-20121114-29bnw.html

    Give me Father Bob any day.

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    • Jenny Story

      Or Dexter.

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    • Sarah

      I have met him too but I got quite the opposite. He’s actually quite distressed particularly because since the 90s they have made an ongoing effort to weed these people out. He is right: The Catholic Church is NOT the only cab on the rank. Changing the rules of the confessional will not change things, they simply won’t report. Those sickos become priests because they have the access to children to do this. They are a small minority and Mia suggesting otherwise is an indication of an ongoing media bias. Great article in the SMH today that shows a bit more balance. There are thousands of priests who do well in their vocation.

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      • Anonymous

        Sarah, thank you. I agree.

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    • Serious thought

      That’s because a lot of cases have been proven false. A scandalous parent wanting to get their 15 minutes of fame by tarnishing a good mans name.

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  40. Simone

    Although the priest cannot break the seal of confession, he can try and convince an offender to turn him or herself to the relevant authorities and/or seek appropriate treatment. Also, if an offender is aware a priest might break the seal, he/she might not be inclined to go to confession, and therefore not receive the spiritual counselling they are seeking, and might not be convinced to turn him/herself in. I am not trying to defend the tenets fo the Church, but just trying to put across a viewpoint. This is a very difficult one, I agree. Has anybody seen a film from about 1995 called “Priest” – this very scenario is dealt with. Excellent film. Featured Linus Roache and Robert Carlyle.

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  41. Elizabeth

    I am really hoping that the royal commission will really shed some light. I am grateful that it will not just be limited to the Catholic Church. I believe peadophiles hide in all sorts of institutions – and in fact mentally disabled young girls are disproportionately represented victims of this atrocity.

    I am curious on whether more catholic priests are offenders than found in the general population. My precious mother was sexually abused by her own father – I am glad I never met him!

    The Catholic Church most certainly needs to be scrutinized but I am so glad the commission is further reaching than that.

    I also must be honest and say I truly feel for the actual majority of priests who are not peadophiles nor would they cover it up. They have a true calling and I believe are good people who want to do the right thing by the community. It’s a shame to tar these good men with the vilest criminals.

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  42. Kate

    I work in child protection, and I can’t tell you how much of a relief it is to see this royal commission finally happening.

    I’m glad it is going to look at all agencies as well, not just the catholic church. The same concerns and entrenched practices exist in any number of institutions including but not limited to independent schools, out of home care services, non gov support services, as well as within certain government agencies.

    I believe that the issue of clergy not reporting crimes disclosed during confession is taking away from the more significant and wide reaching problem which is how the church actively covers up crimes, protects perpetrators and doesn’t support victims.

    That being said, I do believe clergy should be mandatory reporters and I honestly can’t see how the church can justify not reporting crimes against children. But they will. And I don’t think we’ll see any government attempt to change the legislation to include the church.

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    • Pat

      Because that would be against their religion. The government can’t force the seal of confession to break and trying to get rid of religion will not work. Just put them in ghettos.

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  43. Ken Dally

    The figures coming from the very limited Victorian inquiry clearly state that the Roman Catholic church has a higher percentage of child rapists than all other churches combined, a rate that is six times higher than fro ANY other institution or demographic. Fr Brennan, a Jesuit priest and lawyer Lateline the other night said that the coverup goes all the way to the Vatican.

    It is long past the time that this group of paedophile enablers and protectors was called to account for their deplorable and despicable actions. The special legal protection this rabble of dirty old men gets has to be removed.

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  44. Mellie

    I’m catholic, and this makes me sick. it is all so wrong on so many levels.

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  45. Nicole Madigan

    Catholic Priest and all-round champion Father Bob was spearheading support for this inquiry. If only his voice was heard more often on behalf of the Catholic Church instead of the abhorrent George Pell…

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    • clazberri

      I’m an atheist, and I agree with your comment. Father Bob is one of my most favourite people ever. Love that man!

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  46. Jane

    This issue and George Pell makes me so angry, I can’t even get started. I am beyond angry about this. I am f*cking furious! He makes me sick.

    Thank you Mia for putting into words how I feel and saying what needs to be said. I just hope that the Government will pursue this relentlessly and not let the Catholic Church (or any other Church) get in their way.

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  47. MsZ

    Just curious to know if anyone else is outraged that the law of another nation-state is being upheld in Australia as being superior in precedence to our own laws?

    The Vatican is a nation and apparently some people think that that nation’s laws have validity in Australia. Why is this so?

    Surely people who have failed to report serious abuses are guilty of a crime and should be jailed immediately!

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  48. Anonymous

    The Catholic Church is labor. Labor is the Catholic Church. The ALP risk losing even more voters if they turn this into a witch hunt of the Church rather than a far reaching inquiry into pedophilia.

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    • Obsydian

      what utter rubbish ! maybe fifty years ago, but not now !

      how about some evidence to back it up ?!

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      • Anonymous

        http://www.eurekastreet.com.au/article.aspx?aeid=27506

        Sorry, Obsydian, but you are incorrect. This link is simply the first that comes up.

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        • Obsydian

          re: article. fair enough

          but my point is still valid, when you factor in the stats of weekly church going, practicing & loyal to the church catholics vs the CINO – catholic in name only – dissenting catholics.

          then the results would change, as was seen in the recent US election.

          most practicing catholics would generally vote LNP, whilst most dissenting catholics would certainly vote ALP, as most fist their world view & ideology.

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          • Anonymous

            World view and ideology? Sending women and children to Malaysian hell holes? Covering up union corruption? Having affairs with married men? Lying, fiscal incompetence? Just what world view are you thinking of?

            And don’t forget that the ALP has quite a few peds in jail at the moment.

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      • Anonymous

        The Catholic Church still forms the voting base of the ALP. The clergy are have a blind left bias and remote the ALP wherever possible.

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    • Ken Dally

      Obsydian, lets see with a few examples. Abbott and Hockey – Catholic. Barry O’Farrell – Catholic, NSW Sate Attorney General – Catholic.

      Well looks like we can safely dispel your your little totally unresearched rant.

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      • Anonymous

        Paul Keating, Stephan Smith, Kristina Kennelly, Anthony Albabeze …

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    • Bee

      Tell that to tony Abbott and Christopher Pyne!

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      • Sally

        The ALP is the party of the Catholc church. Wishing it otherwise won’t change that. Parish priests have a go at the coalition and Abbott whenever possible.

        Anonymous is correct. The ALP are Catholic.

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        • Bored of Burwood

          That’s because churches are usually on the side of the poor and disadvantaged.

          I love that the head of the ALP is an atheist……..

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      Gotta love conspiracy theorists….

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  49. Fiona

    Surely if the priests are forced to report child abuse or other heinous crimes, then criminals will stop going to confession, or they’ll travel overseas for confession if confession is what they really want. And then this won’t be an issue anymore. Our priests will then be none the wiser! Problem solved. Not.

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    • Cg

      Yes Fiona. I imagine the number of paedophiles, not just priests, who seek absolution for their sins are very few.

      The culture of cover ups has little to do with the confessional.

      Pedophilia is everywhere. In every corner of society.

      It is the courts that send the signal that paedophilia is ‘frowned on’ rather than abhorred.

      If Gillard wants to salvage any shred of dignity from her term, she should demand life sentences for child abuse and rape. Until then, this is an exercise in futility.

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      • Catherine

        Tougher sentencing is definitely required. say about 35 years ago, in suburban Melbourne, there a man working in a milkbar. He owned it.
        As a kid I would go in there, to buy bread. In those days the bread was kept in the milk bar window. Sometimes when i lent in the window to get the bread, I thought the guy had touched my bum but oif course by the time I spun around he was far enough away. I stopped going to the shop as it was creeping me out. Then I heard from other kids that when they went in the shop he was showing them pornographic magazines. My brothers told my mum about the porno magazines but she didnt do anything about it, her response was just “” Dont go there”. Anyway years later I picked up a local paper and found that there was a news story there about the guy. Some little girl had come into the shop, the had bolted the door shut and pulled his pants down. I dont know what elese happened but for once he was reported to the police. He got a piss weak sentence and I remember the news story saying something his son had told the court in his defence! The paedo was depressed after his wife died!!!!
        For god’s sake, being a paedo is not a symptom of depression. I think the offender only got a couple of years good behaviour!!!!

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      • Anonymous

        she should demand life sentences for child abuse and rape.

        maybe then they’ll just murder the child after they rape them so as to cover their tracks and make sure that they are never reported.

        It’s a tricky fine line

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      • Sean the Bookonaut

        The problem with harsh sentences is that it may actually effect the level of reporting. Some victims may not want to report the perpetrator because doing so will result in the perpetrator being placed in a prison where they might be assaulted. The victim may actually have a measure of compassion for the perpetrator particularly with abuse within families

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  50. Hayley

    Grrat article Mia & so very true! Let’s hope this royal commission gets to the bottom of this, provides some peace for victims and charge & bring to justice these disgusting human beings who hide behind God!

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