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Friend trend: Facebook almost has 1 billion

Facebook co-founder Mark Zuckerberg has claimed his social network will soon break through the 1 billion users barrier … and that’s without cornering the gargantuan markets of Russia and China. The network was sitting somewhere around the 800 million user mark at the end of 2011. The last speculative value of the company, as it considered a public offer, was around $100 billion. The more users, of course, the more lucrative it is to advertisers.

World more uncertain on nuclear threats

As Israel prepares for an Iranian nuke test ‘within the next 12 months’, a group of international scientists in charge of the world’s Doomsday clock have moved the hands one minute closer to midnight. Cheerily, midnight represents world destruction. The hands now rest at five minutes to midnight, for those playing along at home. The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists have overseen the clock since it was created in 1947. Collectively they measure global conditions, sentiment and politics to determine how stable we’re keeping our nuclear stocks. The last time the clock was at this time was in 2007.

You spent how much now, Beyonce and Jay Z?

Now, take this with a grain of salt, but apparently Beyonce and Jay Z have spent about $1.5 million on their newborn Blue Ivy Carter in an attempt to give her some of the, er, finer things in life. How can you spend so much? Well those infamous ‘sources’ say there’s a golden rocking horse, Swarovski-studded high chair, more than $300,000 on room renovations for the nursery, a miniature version of one of the world’s most expensive cars (the Bugatti) and rattles and other baby knick-knacks from Tiffany and Co, as you do. Now … if even half of this is true, yikes. Anyone here as extravagant with their own kids?

The most complained about ads … ever

The Advertising Standards Bureau has released a list of the worst ads on records, judging by the tastes of the public. But even the most ‘offensive’ only received 359 official complaints. And that dubious honour goes to Nando’s for the television ad which shows a mother pole dancing. And remember the ad for mints that showed the nipples on the man stretch? That was number two on record with 284 complaints. The ‘want longer lasting sex’? billboard rounded out the top three. Any others that spring to mind? What do these ones say about us as a country?

Here’s the Nando’s ad:

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The Pope

Pope says gay marriage a ‘threat to humanity’.

While calling for an end to discrimination against Christians which leaves them as ‘second class citizens’, the Pope addressed the Vatican diplomatic corps this week and explained same-sex marriage was a ‘threat to humanity’. “This is not a simple social convention, but rather the fundamental cell of every society. Consequently, policies which undermine the family threaten human dignity and the future of humanity itself. The family unit is fundamental for the educational process and for the development both of individuals and states; hence there is a need for policies which promote the family and aid social cohesion and dialogue,” he said.

Sea Shepherd won’t pay recovery costs of captured activists

A bitter war of words has broken out between the Prime Minister and the head of Sea Shepherd Paul Watson. Ms Gillard yesterday called the actions of the activists who boarded a Japanese whaler security ship illegally ‘unacceptable’. Mr Watson wrote a response listing 10 reasons why Sea Shepherd ‘should not and will not’ pay a cent for the rescue. “The suggestion by Prime Minister Julia Gillard and Attorney General Nicola Roxon that Sea Shepherd help foot the bill for the recovery of three Australian citizens from the Shonan Maru #2 is absurd,” he wrote. The Prime Minister said the retrieval of the men would cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.

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  1. Simon Wilby Scam

    One adjective that defines Simon Wilby is smart. He is the CEO of Smart Power, Inc. He developed

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  2. Mel

    I usually ignore what I hear about ‘celebs’ because frankly I couldn’t care less. But this crap I’ve heard about Beyonce & Jay Z today really makes me question how self involved and self important they are. First I hear (although I’m not sure how true it is because I know the Chinese wishers impact on goss) that they have interrupted and limited contact between other parents and children in the nursery of where their baby was born. Secondly I hear about how much they’ve spent on this kid already. WTF give the money to someone who needs it and spend it where it will actually make a difference. Gold rocking horses or whatever the hell they have bought for this kid will not make any difference on it’s development or life as n infant. As long as. Baby has it’s basic needs met I’m sure they don’t give a damn about how much their room or toys cost. I say what a Joke. Good on them for having the money, I’m not saying give it to me, I don’t deserve I’m eating every day and have a roof over my head but there are lots of people who don’t.

    I’ll stop ranting now, but this behavior should not be worshiped it should be mocked

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  3. Bec

    Beyonce and Jay Z spent how much??!!?!? Geez, I think my daughters lucky when I can buy Huggies nappies instead of the Aldi brand…….

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  4. MJ

    Well I think Beyonce has far more value to contribute to the world than the Pope…

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  5. Kate

    Agghh I find the pope’s views on gay marriage so frustrating. I was raised a Catholic but some (actually quite a bit) of the doctrine makes me furious.

    How can anyone so positively state that marriage, ‘is not a simple social convention, but rather the fundamental cell of every society’ when all across the ages and the world at large, what consitutes ‘family’ has been quite fluid. A fairly basic understanding of other cultures and times in history seems to me to make that clear enough.

    And, I believe, the most crucial point (and stated clearly by Elli below) – “How is a couple who love each other, want to spent their lives together, and want to raise children within that love NOT a family?”.

    Agreed.

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  6. P

    Seriously, why is the Pope not irrelevant yet? Talking about Christians being ‘second class citizens’, and that same sex marriage is a ‘threat to humanity’? And that’s leaving out all his ridiculous comments about contraception (specifically condoms and HIV)

    I can’t stand the guy. I understand he is the head of a particular religion, but at what point does said religion move from the dark ages, and face the world as it is today, with the benefit of everything we know now through science.

    Disclaimer – I’m not saying all catholics are terrible, or misinformed or anything like that. I have no problem with people being Catholic, and I know many who don’t share the extreme views of the Pope.

    in addition (and this is completely subjective and unfounded) he completely creeps me out!

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  7. Jane DJ

    That sucker is gonna be a b*stard to get congealed cereal out of!!

    If it is the designer highchair, it is just a special edition of some fairly nice, ergonomically award winning ( if a little architectually wanky) highchairs, the normal version you can see here:
    http://www.archiexpo.com/prod/i-can-sit/baby-highchairs-49784-55816.html

    Par for the course for Beyonce to get the bling version!

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    • MikeyMike

      A baby’s high-chair with sharp bits on it…..is that really a good idea ?

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    • Jane DJ

      Mind you, the more I suss out these items, the more I reckon the story is probably bogus and that someone has probably just gone thru the net and found the most expensive version of every baby item, released the “story” from “sources” and then the trashy newspapers ( and MM) have picked up on it. FOr example, that rocking horse was a one off created for the newborn Japanese Prince Hishahito back in 2006.
      http://www.wordpress.tokyotimes.org/?p=969

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  8. MikeyMike

    The craziest thing about that Nandos ad is that a senior Nandos person saw it and thought ‘That’s exactly what we want’ ….!

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  9. elli

    How is a couple who love each other, want to spent their lives together, and want to raise children within that love NOT a family?

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  10. MikeyMike

    Here’s a quote from Conan O’Brien:

    ‘Thank God Beyonce had her baby and can go back to work. For the past 6 months that family’s had to live entirely on Jay-Z’s salary’.

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  11. cookie

    I find it funny how people say the Jay Z and Beyonce thing isn’t ‘news’ when news programs are all reporting on it on TV. It’s called “Entertainment News”

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    • Bryter

      Sorry Cookie, but that’s not true. It’s not “Entertainment News” as no-one has directly quoted Beyonce or Jay-Z or done any real reporting. It is gossip, plain and simple. The general dumbing down of news outlets’ reporting standards is a scary thing. It is now easier to quote Twitter or repeat a rumour than it is to do any real reporting. We, as consumers, should be more judicious with what we believe. And publishers should do more to lift their reporting standards.

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      • neola

        I like the blend of heavy and light in the news bites and I have to admit, I enjoy hearing about Beyonce and Jay Z’s baby. But I completely agree with you – this piece would have been good as a separate post, starting a conversation about extravagant baby gifts rather than as part of the news, as it is all just rumour and speculation.

        At least Rick prefaced it honestly, unlike other media outlets, but yes, the dumbing down of news in general is a huge, HUGE problem and I hope that comments like yours get taken on board.

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        • Bryter

          Thanks Neola. This repetition of badly-reported “news” is becoming more and more of a problem. Just yesterday, a friend said to me “Wow. Kate Middleton is pregnant. I read it in a UK tabloid. It has to be true.” And today, we have people commenting on Swarovski high chairs and Tiffany & Co rattles as if it’s fact. The product placement alone screams that it’s bogus.

          Yes, it’s great to touch on “light” news, but at least have it come from a credible source – and name that source. There is a BIG difference between a primary source and a credible secondary source. Mamamia, and Rick as a trained journalist, should know the difference.

          The REAL news story here is how badly the Beyonce birth story has been reported in the mainstream press. That’s what MM should be writing about. So many news outlets, including broadsheet papers and 6pm news bulletins, quoted eonline as a credible news source. Yet a day later most of their facts were shown to be wrong. I.e. it was Blue Ivy not Ivy Blue, it was a natural delivery not a c-section, they did not hire a full floor for $1.5 million, etc, etc.

          If we don’t demand good reporting, this lazy style of “journalism” will continue to erode our news publications. And misinformation will continue to spread like wildfire.

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          • Rick Morton

            Bryter, while I take your point head-noddingly about silly journalism that just makes up sources, I thought this would be an interesting discussion today while making sure I wrote the piece in a way that left absolutely NO doubt this story was a dubious one. Sometimes we include things here that make great conversation starters. We’re not the ABC.

            I said ‘take this with a grain of salt’, italiciised the word apparently, put ‘sources’ in quote marks and then alluded to the half-truthiness of it all at the end. No less than four attempts in 150 or so words to make sure people know that this certainly isn’t a rock solid news source. Why add it in? Because I thought the conversation would be fun.

            I completely agree with your broader point and I think you’ll find MM is generally a lot better about seeing through the media spin than most.

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  12. MikeyMike

    Here’s some news: The Pope is a stupid, ignorant old man, and he wears dresses.

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    • Lauren

      Could not like your comment any more

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  13. Anonymous

    I’m going to go against the current and say I like reading about Beyonce’s baby. Baby ‘news’ is nice. The news everywhere lately is so full of doom and gloom, it’s nice to read something happier sometimes.
    I also want to say I don’t agree with everyone saying it’s obscene buying a pile of insanely expensive presents while children are starving in Africa. It’s not Beyonce’s job to save the world. We don’t know how much she gives to charity, it might be a lot. There would be very, very few people in Australia who couldn’t afford to donate a bit to charity. If every first world person gave a bit there would be far fewer people starving to death. I wonder how much all the ‘oh, it’s so obscene’ people are donating? It’s so much easier to blame it all on the mega wealthy people being greedy while we do nothing ourselves.

    Sorry about being so ranty early in the morning but it really does bug me.

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    • Renee

      I agree, I know what percentage of our household income goes to charity. I wouldn’t expect any household to have to contribute a higher percentage just because they have more money than me. I have no idea how much these people contribute to charity, it may very well be a great deal or perhaps nothing at all, so I’ll refrain from passing judgement.

      Also when our first child was born we couldn’t wait to give her the very best we could afford of everything we thought she needed. It just so happens that Beyonce and Jay-Z have a lot more money to waste. We quickly learned that she didn’t need half the stuff we bought but that was half the fun of being a first time parent.

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      • Joey

        Stuff that then goes into landfill. I think it is a waste and I don’t think there is anything wrong with pointing this out.
        I do agree with your statement regarding the fact that we don’t know how much Beyonce and co. contribute to charity. But I don’t think there is anything wrong with pointing out that money for a gold rocking horse or whatever it is could be better spent.
        Life and respecting others isn’t just about having and exercising CHOICE.
        It is also about RESPONSIBILITY. So many people forget this.

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        • Renee

          Agreed,

          But I think what Anonymous was asking is do we expect them to be more morally and socially responsible than the rest of us just because they are rich?

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          • Joey

            If they earn more than yeah they have more to give.

            ‘More’ morally and socially responsible – well I think you need to look at it on a pro rata basis.
            I also think we all could do a hell of a lot better than we currently do.
            And yeah I donate (money and time), recycle, try to limit my consumption of goods and resources, and talk about these issues in the hope that it will raise awareness. I believe I have the responsibility to do so.

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            • Renee

              I don’t feel I could ask anyone to do more than I do myself. If they are giving the same percentage of their income as I am then they are giving more than I do, but like you say we could all do more. If you are as charitable and active as you say you are then I guess you have the right to take the moral high ground and good on you for that, but I think anonymous is asking how many of us that judge the rich for their contribution actually contribute ourselves? I’m reluctant to judge others because there is always going to be something I myself could do better.

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    • Kathy

      I’m annoyed this particular story is in the news section, even worded the way it is to say ‘apparently’ because it is obviously completely made up! I don’t mind entertainment news and happy baby news but a story like this? Read the comments and people saying “that is a ridiculous thing to buy for a baby” THAT is the problem. It doesn’t matter if you acknowledge it as true or not people just read it and off they go discussing it as if it is something that has happened! I can just see people sitting around their coffees, beers, lemonades, fruit boxes and talking about it…eventually when it comes up in conversation someone will forget to say ‘apparently’ and all of a sudden we have a group of people talking about two celebrities they’ve never met and the outrageous things they never did! Lame! Gossip can be fun and light hearted but when it is simply lies I find it frustrating!

      Also 110% AGREE about any comments where people seem to feel rich celebrities should have stopped poverty by now. YES they can do a lot and guess what they probably do, we don’t know how much they give and most people don’t know how much we give! I think EVERYONE has a responsibility to give what they can to causes and charities close to their heart that need attention. I get so frustrated sometimes people sit at the pub drinking 5 $10 ciders, in a $200 dress, catch a $50 taxi home, buy $15 worth of KFC the next day and then complain about having no money and how they would help if only they could. If you are reading this then you are on a computer, phone, or laptop and guess what that makes it highly likely you can help!!! Give $1 a month, give $2 a month, give $2000 a month the amount is irrelevant but stop judging others for what they may or may not give!

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    • Serena

      Completely agree.

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  14. Ella89

    I think that people need to step back and think for a second…
    Beyonce and Jay-Z are multi-millionaires so yes, they are going to spend a lot more on their daughter than most people, BUT just because one blog has said they brought a crystal studded high chair doesn’t make it true, I think they have more sense than that!

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    • Bryter

      Exactly. This is not news. It is unsubstantiated gossip with no direct sources or credible reporting. Sorry MM, but this kind of fluff has no place in the News post.

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      • Ella89

        Oh I don’t really have a problem of it as ‘news’ as such- Rick worded it to make it obvious that it was a rumour but I was more talking about the comments where people are taking it as a fact :)

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        • Bryter

          But therein lies the problem. Despite Rick’s obvious wording of this as gossip, look at the number of commenters here alone that have taken this bogus tidbit as truth. “News” today is becoming a big game of Chinese Whispers.

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          • JoJo

            True – didn’t this post start as a more serious snapshot of the day’s headlines?

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            • Rick Morton

              The mix hasn’t changed. We’ve always tried to balance light and shade, light and shade. But I readily take the point that the difference is the ‘light’ is usually sourced. I honestly just thought the Beyonce stuff would be an interesting discussion, while still acknowledging I needed to introduce it clearly enough to show it was at the very least gossip. Beyond that, we don’t know what is true. I’m sure their baby has nice things, but the nature of what those things are, who knows?

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  15. Kate O

    Maybe if they legalise gay marriage, the doomsday clock will revert back?

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  16. Melli

    Dear Beyonce and Jay-Z,

    Congratulations on the safe arrival of your daughter. I heard you bought a Swarovski encrusted high chair for her, which I am sure looks stunning. I’ll just give you a heads up, babies don’t eat in a civilized fashion nor do they clean up after themselves. I suggest you schlep down to iKea and buy an Antilop highchair they’re about $30 and you can clean them in the shower or you could trade in the one you have and buy her a new high chair for each meal.

    Cheers,

    Melli

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  17. Mrs_H

    Wow. Just… Wow.
    I felt guilty when I saw the amount of presents that my bub got for Christmas. My baby has nothing on Blue!
    It is a bit sickening though, when you consider there are children in Africa who are literally starving to death, while a baby sits in a crystal studded high chair.

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    • Sharon

      Why is it even possible to BUY a crystal studded high chair?? Just ridiculous. And imagine how hard it will be to keep clean!

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      • Kris2040

        Fun for Blue to pick the crystals off to eat, too!

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        • Haven Maven

          Then she will have crystal encrusted nappies!

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          • rudyroo

            and she’ll poop Bling!

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    • cookie

      Well there has to be a bottom and top, am I right? For every starving child, there is a mega wealthy one. That is how life is.

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      • Mrs _H

        #occupycrystalstuddedhighchair?

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  18. Abby

    If gay people star getting married, what’s going to happen?
    Is the world going to end? No.
    Will Australia become a 3rd world country? No.
    Will more people die from cancer or some other equally terrible illness? No.
    Will gay people get married and continue to live on happilly in this world? Yes.

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    • LellaK

      The divorce rate might drop…..

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  19. Amy Sheaves

    Ughhhhhh. I feel sick to my stomach reading about a solid gold rocking horse and a Swarovski studded high chair for a baby. I really, really, really hate to judge…but this one is just soooooo wrong on so many levels. It actually kinda makes me sad.

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  20. Loopy

    Sea Shepherd offered the Australian Government another solution, take the Forest activists currently onboard the Japanese boat back to the Steve Irwin but Nicola Roxon’s department refused that. So it was the Australian government’s decision to spend all the money by getting the Aust navy involved. They’re so scared of offending the Japanese government, despite the fact that the Japanese are spending donated charity money (from the tsunami relief fund) to fight Sea Shepherd’s protest in the Southern Ocean. Paul Watson may be arrogant but he is brave enough to stand up for what he believes in

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  21. N

    Oh man they should’ve gone for Ivy Blue instead…!

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  22. Another Jo

    Threat to humanity?!? You have got to be kidding me.

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  23. melissasavage

    Oh for fuck’s sake Christians! You’re not being persecuted. You haven’t been persecuted for the last 1700 years!!

    And don’t get me started on that bloody vigilante group Sea Shepherd. Fuck, they annoy me.

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    • If they’re pissing off people like us, they are definitely doing the wrong thing…they need to review their publicity strategies…

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      • neola

        I’m surprised to find myself saying I’m with you on this one. I’m a green-votin’, whale-lovin’, Sea Sheperd donatin’ type and I am completely turned off by this stunt.

        Watching the piece on ABC news (or was it 7.30 Report) the other night, I felt embarrassed by their actions. The partner of one of the protesters was making such ill-informed comments that the whole Forest Rescue group just came across as attention seeking cowboys who haven’t done their research and wanted to be on the news. Then trying to drum up alarm for their wellbeing because 2 of them haven’t taken their medication with them?? When Bob Brown called them heroes I had to gag a little.

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      • Susan As Well

        I’m surprised to see people who say the whale hunt is terrible and all that but they think the people who activate against it are embarrassing or they don’t want to waste their taxes on it.

        There’s a great big discussion on here today about people having the courage of their convictions … there were 14 year olds during WW2 who actively opposed Nazi activities. Courage to speak up and activate doesn’t come at a certain age. It comes because of a belief in justice and humankind to do the right thing.

        You rock in my book Cuppie! and if push came to shove, I believe you would do what you believe is right, you just sound like you’re a person who would.

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    • iamevilcupcake

      Not all Christians are Catholic, so please don’t lump us all together. Thanks.

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      • katehunter

        And not all Catholics respect the words of Pope Benedict.

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        • twomummies

          True but when you send your kids to Catholic schools a portion of the fee’s supports the Catholic church doctrine.

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          • xanderley

            Not all Catholics send their children to Catholic school s either …

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            • Anonymous

              And not all those attending Catholic Schools are Catholic. I attended one not because I wanted to support the doctrines of the Church, but because I was bullied at the public school. Generalisations can be very dangerous.

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            • twomummies

              My statement didn’t say all Catholics send their kids to Catholic schools and neither did it say that all parents who send their kids to Catholic schools are Catholic either. The bottom line and this is not a generalisation is that fee’s you pay to Catholic schools support the Catholic church to uphold its doctrine.

              I also fully realise why some parents have no choice in sending their kids to Catholic schools.

              But for those parents who have a choice and who do not agree with the Catholic churches stance on homosexuality or abortion or anything else why do you send your kids to a Catholic school?

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          • katehunter

            I do struggle with this, Twomummies. But at a grass-roots, parish and school level I see a hardworking, broadminded, caring community – not because they are Catholics – they are just good people. The Pope is rarely, if ever mentioned and I know priests who have major issues with Rome. I don’t know how much of our fees goes towards supporting doctrine.

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  24. iamevilcupcake

    “This is not a simple social convention, but rather the fundamental cell of every society. Consequently, policies which undermine the family threaten human dignity and the future of humanity itself. The family unit is fundamental for the educational process and for the development both of individuals and states; hence there is a need for policies which promote the family and aid social cohesion and dialogue,”

    Says the former Nazi youth . . .

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    • An Idle Dad

      Considering membership of the Hitler Youth was mandatory in 1941 when the Pope was 14, that’s a bit unfair.

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      • iamevilcupcake

        Actually he did have a choice not to join, he would have been punished severely, but he still had a choice.

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        • That’s a big call Cupcake. What would you have done in his position?

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          • iamevilcupcake

            The problem we have is that we don’t know what his belief system was back then. He may very well been dead against Hitler, but at the same time he may have very well supported Hitler.

            But if it was me, I wouldn’t support Hitler, and I suppose I would have been punnished. I’m not going to change my belief system because someone more powerful than me comes along.

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            • An Idle Dad

              He was fourteen. He could have been a frothing at the mouth supporter – he’d only been raised in a society totally dedicated to a racist ideology after all – and I wouldn’t hold it against him.

              My views and values at fourteen are not my views and values at 37, and probably will be even further removed from my views at 80+.

              I won’t hold anything an Australian pollie wrote in university against them, I can hardly condemn an 80 year old for his boyhood views.

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            • lucindainthesky

              lol. Well in that case you’d have been dead. I’m sure it would have been worth it.

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            • Jayne

              It is easy for us to judge Hitler’s actions now – when we have the benefit of knowing exactly what happened then. You have to remember that people back then were not availed of all the facts as we now are. The 14-year old future Pope would not have been aware of the atrocities we now know were committed by the Nazi’s.

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        • An Idle Dad

          Rebelling at the age of 14 against the Nazis is not like rebelling at the age of 14 against your high school principal in Australia by not joining the girl guides.

          ‘Punished severely” doesn’t mean writing 1000 lines and picking up playground litter.

          Nazis had a habit of killing their political opponents. Ever heard of the White Rose students? They were also members of the Hitler Youth, but were against Nazi ideology. They were arrested and the Nazis chopped off their heads. As in REALLY chopped off their heads.

          Some choice.

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          • iamevilcupcake

            I’m well aware of what the Nazis were capable of. And this isn’t about rebelling. It’s about standing up for what you believe in. I would risk my life for my belief system, and I’m sure as hell not going to do something just because someone else told me to regardless of what they can do to me.

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            • D

              “I’m sure as hell not going to do something just because someone else told me to regardless of what they can do to me.”

              I think it’s really easy to say this sitting in the comfort of your home in front of your computer having never experienced war. It would be interesting to see what you’d really do if someone was holding a blow torch to your eye or a cricket bat to your knee cap. I just don’t think you can ever know unless you’ve been in that situation.

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            • iamevilcupcake

              You know what D? Yes, it is easy for me to say that sitting behind my computer.

              But I would like to think my convictions were strong enough that I wouldn’t cave.

              But you are right, I’ve never experienced war so who knows.

              I’m going to give up this topic now. I’ve had enough.

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          • I know as a small, insecure 14 year old, I would have been Heil Hitlering with the best of them, despite what I may have felt inside…

            …but as a 45 year old man, I’d be the opposite…I’d probably be dead…

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            • iamevilcupcake

              Now hang on a sec everyone, this guy went on to become Pope. This isn’t something you just decide you want to do in your mid-thirties.

              People who are in positions of power like that show signs of who they will become from a young age. Do you honestly think that when he was 14, he was as insecure as the rest of us??

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            • Woah! Cupcake…that’s a big assumption to make about people in power…I’m sure there are plenty of world leasers who showed now signs of future leadership at 14…or even 18 for that matter…

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            • lucindainthesky

              What, Cupcake, you don’t think that most of the Nazis were brainwashed by propaganda at the time? That most didn’t know the truth about what atrocities were happening behind closed doors? That for any that knew, that they also knew that standing up for their precious belief system was only going to lead to their death and change nothing in the scheme of things? You don’t think for a second that maybe children (and adults) were educated to believe that cultural genocide was benifical to society and the government was doing what was best for the people?

              Please put it into context, you are not making yourself look very smart.

              Also, whether or not the Pope showed leadership qualities at a young age is irrelevent. It doesn’t mean that he had the power or the tools to fight the nazi movement at 14 years old. That is ridiculous to say the least.

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            • Mee

              Lucy’s right:

              “..that most of the Nazis were brainwashed by propaganda at the time? That most didn’t know the truth about what atrocities were happening behind closed doors? … You don’t think for a second that maybe children (and adults) were educated to believe that cultural genocide was benifical to society and the government was doing what was best for the people?”

              I married into a German family, and my husband’s grandmother lived, as she called it, the best years of her life under Hitler’s reign. She admantly refuses to believe that the Holocaust occured, rather changes the conversation back to what we all know as propoganda-based beliefs. It’s actually quite fascinating – albeit distrubing – to hear her speak about life as twenty-something in Germany and how she was educated so vehemently to believe in the good work of the Nazis and Hitler’s Youth. And even though 60+ years have passed and evidence is plentiful, nothing we say or provide as proof, will change her opinion. Brainwashing at its best…

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          • twomummies

            Just a little aside……

            Did you know the origin of the pink triangle so intimately associated with gay people stems from the NAZI’s? Just like the Jewish people were forced to wear the yellow Start of David, gay people were forced to wear the pink triangle.

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        • Lulu

          It’s difficult to hold a 14-year-old responsible for refusing to join the Hitler Youth when he’d lived under that system since he was *six* years old.

          I’m more interested in knowing about his military record, because he would have been 18 by the end of the war so he almost certainly fought.

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          • Kris2040

            I don’t know many 14 year olds who are particularly passionate about anything, let alone standing up to the Nazis!

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    • iamevilcupcake

      Wow Lucy, thanks for putting me in my place . . .

      Am I not entitled to have an opinion? Do you honestly think that everything is a cut and dry as most of the nazi’s were brainwashed?

      I’m talking about one man here. As it turns out, he knew he wanted to be a Cardinal from the age of 5, and even though he was conscripted as a Nazi Youth, he wasn’t an active one until he was drafted into the airforce at 16.

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      • Renee

        Ha! I hope no one ever holds me responsible for stuff I believed when I was fourteen, I was a total moron, who thought she could grow up and marry George Michael!

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      • neola

        If I may jump in somewhere (not sure who would be best to reply to in this conversation), I want to attempt to mediate :-)

        I think the original comment by Cupcake, which was the Pope’s own quote followed by an allusion to the fact that he was a Hitler Youth (HY), is really not so bad.The quote demonstrates prejudices against a particular group, which is reminiscent of Nazi ideology.

        Now, I completely agree with all the other commenters – that he may have had absolutely no choice but to be part of the HY at such a young age, and I don’t declare that I would have had the strength of conviction at that age or in that era (with threats to my family and all that propaganda) to refuse to join them either. Though I wish I would have.

        But – perhaps having been a part of the HY (whether he wanted to or not) has impacted the kind of person he has grown up to be? Just a thought? I don’t want to hold the actions of his youth against him, but I do find the prejudices he displays TODAY to be absolutely deplorable.

        Now, let’s all get along, shall we? :-)

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        • An Idle Dad

          Pope John Paul II played with Jews as a child, helped Jewish runaways during WW2 and was an avowed democratic campaigner – yet said the same thing about families, gays and gay marriage.

          I think the connection to these views is that they are both Catholic, unless you’re suggesting John Paul was secretly a Nazi too?

          Constantly linking Pope Benedict to the Hilter Youth is character assassination, nothing more.

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          • iamevilcupcake

            How is that character assassination? He actually WAS in the Hitler Youth?

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            • An Idle Dad

              Because you are trying to say he was, and hint that he still is, a nazi, and use that to t to win an argument instead of arguing against his actual statements.

              That’s character assassination.

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            • Susan As Well

              And yet a statement made some hundred years ago about coffee, the pope and catholicism is acceptable as a statement about the current views of a man and a church.

              Funny as the statement is, it must depend on which side of the argument you believe in when deciding what constitutes character assassination because questioning the values of a world leader like the pope seems rather sensible to me, not character assassination.

              Keep singing it Cuppie :)

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      • lucindainthesky

        Of course you are entitled to your opinion. I don’t agree with the Pope’s views on gay rights any more than you do. But the fact of the matter is that you and I have lived in a very different time and place to the Pope. We have been brought up knowing that discrimination is not ok, that we should question things and think for ourselves, that it’s ok to stand up for ourselves, that our government doesn’t always make the right decisions… I could go on. Things have changed HUGELY since that time. They way that people think has changed. It is very difficult to imagine that anyone could think the way they did about the world now, but they did. And we can judge peoples actions all we like based on the world view we have now, but it’s fruitless doing so because you are talking about a whole other world. The Pope sure does still have some very questionable views, but that doesn’t make it fair to judge his actions as a 14 year old in a world that has been plenty of times described as hell on earth.

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        • An Idle Dad

          Exactly, people act as if their values are innate instead of a product of their environment.

          Before WW2, everyone was racist. It was the ‘natural order’ of things. Look at Australian WW2 propaganda with ‘the dirty japs’ and the idea that it’d be best to wipe the bloody lots of them off the earth.

          Different times. And he was a kid.

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  25. An Idle Dad

    The Pope checks Beyonce’s solid gold rocking horse and ups it with a solid gold throne and scepter. Your move, Jay Z.

    Ironic that the Pope is worried about threats to humanity when his sole purpose is to bring around the end times, you know, when a few million live and billions die…

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  26. Lulu

    Undermine the family? Doesn’t choosing a career of celibacy undermine the family?

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    • Ella89

      haha this made me giggle!

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  27. Angelina Ballerina

    I find the pork ads to be pretty gross. If anything they make me want to avoid pork. I can imagine a couple of Beavis and Butthead type ad execs coming up with the grotty concept.

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  28. Jay

    Anyone else sick of hearing about beyonce and her baby? There are babies starving in the world and hearing about a gold rocking horse just makes me feel sick!

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    • Anonymous

      Yes! So she had a baby, so did lots of other women around the world on Saturday. You’ve reported about it now please, unless she cures Cancer or something equally impressive can we please, for the love of god, move on?

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      • Sarah

        This

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      • Rick Morton

        That’s the funny thing about all this news business, different people like different things! I try to include a mix every morning, if Beyonce ain’t your cup of tea I sure hope the Pope is!

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        • Bryter

          The thing is: this isn’t news. It’s unsubstantiated, unsourced, badly reported gossip. Unless you’re contacting Beyonce’s manager and getting this information legitimately, you’re no worse than New Idea or Women’s Day and their many “close sources”.

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          • Rick Morton

            I wrote it as such to make sure that was obvious.

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            • Bryter

              You have. But the point of this post is “News” and this snippet is not. It’s gossip. Mia has railed against the reporting practices of glossies in the past (“close sources”) etc, so I would argue this is not worthy of being published on MM, no matter how many “grains of salt” are mentioned.

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            • Susan As Well

              I was really pleased to see the difference in the way you wrote the intro, Rick. Might take Emsters a while to get used to it…

              I admit I didn’t read much of the content about Beyonce’s baby though because it is all pretty doubtful (and boring to me)

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            • Myopia

              Never mind Rick. I for one think you do a great job, and especially love your “cheat sheets” when there is an important issue I am not fully informed on.

              Just remember, “you can’t please everyone, so you got to please yourself” (or more to the point…Mia, or the editorial staff etc) :)

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            • Rick Morton

              We’re not perfect. And that’s OK!

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    • An Idle Dad

      As the father, Jay, you won’t be able to get away that quick, mate. Sorry.

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      • Gracie

        An Idle Dad, you are cracking me up today!!

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      • Jay

        Lol

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  29. Susan As Well

    Happy for my taxes to go towards helping return the activists back to Australia. Unlike the Australian government, the activists are taking action against Japanese whaling.

    Couldn’t give a hoot about about Paul Watson’s supposed self-serving personality so long as he continues to serve the whales as well.

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    • How can you say the Australian Government has done nothing about commercial whaling? Who do you think battles so hard at the International Whaling Convention to ensure the treaty is maintained?

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      • Lulu

        JJ, you say ‘commercial whaling’ – but Japan claims that what they’re doing isn’t ‘commercial’.

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        • It’s also quite small…I don’t like it, but realistically, it’s not putting whale numbers in danger…

          What do you want the Australia Government to do…sink the whaling boats?

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          • Cait

            Yes, I for one would like the Aus Navy to sink the whaling ships – at least if they are in our ‘neck of the woods’. No one is buying the old ‘scientific research’ crock, and its been proven that the aid money sent to Japan has in part gone towards these whaling endeavours.

            I think the rest of the developed world has had enough of Japan ignoring everyone, and continuing this path of destruction (even if the numbers are small, its still desrtuction).

            Obviously the talks have done nothing, so its time to up the ante.

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            • *facepalms*

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            • Kris2040

              You go and stand on the bridge and make the order to fire then. Whether you like it or not, they’re not attacking our people or country. It’s the Australian Defence Force, not the Australian fire at will at anyone who does stuff that lots of us don’t particularly like or agree with Force.

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            • Cait

              Maybe (obviously) I wasnt entirely clear, I was attempting to be facetious about the Navy firing orders, but I do believe that so far there has been very little progress.

              I do think that the government has dropped the ball. Yes they have done *some* good work about narrowing the scope under which Japan can hunt, but you have to wonder why no one questioned the Ship being in our waters, when we all clearly know what its purpose was.

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            • Susan As Well

              You have to be careful making facetious comments on MM … people choose to take them seriously when it suits them, otherwise they’re just as likely to fly right off the screen without barely a mention … you never know which way it’s going to go ;)

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      • Susan As Well

        I wouldn’t describe the Australian government’s approach to ending whaling as a “hard battle” approach at all.

        You do realise that Japan comes all the way to the Southern Ocean because there are no whales left in the oceans around Japan … there actually is a really big problem with whale numbers.

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    • Nervous Nellie

      Well I’m definitely not happy with Australian government funds going towards bailing these guys out. Please don’t misunderstand me – I have absolutely no sympathy to whalers, and I do not agree with the practice whatsoever and want it to be stopped. But it is not up to individuals to act like such idiots and cause huge costs to their government, behaving like attention seeking schoolboys.

      What did they think their stunt would actually achieve? Suddenly stop the whaling? Of course not. Bring attention to their cause? Perhaps. But people know about whaling, they understand the issues. How does acting so stupidly help your cause? Why not be a bit more inventive and think of constructive ways of gaining support for your cause?

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      • Susan As Well

        I think they would be more than happy to receive suggestions for further constructive anti-whaling activities! What do you suggest?

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        • How about using their funds to pay for anti-whaling advertising and education in Japan instead of spending all that money on maintaining all those ships and boats they gallivant around the world in?

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          • Jen

            I support the Sea Shepherd campaign. Happy fo my tax money to go towards rescuing the activists. I recommend watching “Whale Wars” to learn more about the barbaric way these beautiful creatures are slaughtered, just to end up in massive freezers in Japan as whalemeat is no longer as popular as it used to be in Japan.

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          • Susan As Well

            Can’t really imagine that the Japanese are going to allow Paul Watson, or anyone else for that matter, to start an anti-whaling campaign on the telly in Japan. The whale hunt is government-sanctioned, the government openly pays other member countries to vote with them at IWC.

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        • Nervous Nellie

          These guys obviously care greatly about this. They know the issue inside out, they understand who is involved and how and all the ins and outs. Which I do not. So unfortunately (as I’m sure you could have guessed), I’m not the best person to ask for an off the cuff better suggestion.

          But surely they could use all their knowledge and experiences, combine it with a bit of imagination, perhaps a lot of googling, and come up with something better? Something that doesn’t just make Australians look like immature brats?

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          • inKL

            Do they care as greatly as they used to or are they more interested in generating publicity now? It seems to me that this latest stunt and the letter to the PM screams “look at me”.

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            • Kitten

              I completely agree the Australian government has been pissweak when it comes to dealing with whaling. Prominently voicing an anti-whaling stance is a really good start but we’re all bark and no bite. And bite shouldn’t mean violence – there’s enough violence in whaling already – but we could be taking actions such as trade sanctions etc.

              What I find interesting is why Australians are so vocally anti-whaling but condone, through silence and/or purchase, a wide variety of equally horrific animal cruelty practices that occur on a greater scale affective far a far greater number of individual beings that are just as sentient as whales. Cherry-picking your issues is hypocritical. How can you be anti-whaling while chomping down on meat or drinking milk?

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  30. Anonymous

    Ok we get it, Beyonce was pregnant, then she popped the kid out – can we please move on, not everyone actually cares about what she may or may not be doing or buying day in, day out.

    Over, hearing about her!

    I’ve removed the link to the Ben Cousins story mainly because I didn’t put it up because I give two shits about him, I put it up to prove the point that he will never change and we need to stop giving him and his life oxygen in the media.

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    • Liz

      And you call Benny boy news? I’d rather hear news about Beyonce…

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    • An Idle Dad

      Ah, so you’re team sport not team celeb then!

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    • Cait

      I could guarantee that fewer people care about the perpetual disaster Ben Cousins, than beyonces baby.

      Beyonce works hard, and has now had a baby. Ben Cousins drinks and parties hard, despite having a baby. I for one can see the higher news value in the former.

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  31. Beatrice

    Dear Mamamia, please consider posting an informative piece about the Sea Shepherd. Mamamia is a marvellous source of information and I really think it would be very beneficial for readers to get a better idea of the purpose of their cause. So far it seems that they are robbing tax paying citizens. Surely there’s a bigger picture to all this than stunts… Please.

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  32. amy

    I love how B and J have bought things that arent really for the baby… more for them. Didn’t anyone every tell them that children prefer the wrapping paper instead of the pressie? Currently my nearly 10 month old loves to play with baby wipes. My friends 3 year old was obsessed with 2 toilet rolls for weeks!

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    • N

      I know! Like what is she going to do with a solid gold rocking horse or a diamond encrusted high chair (wouldn’t that be kinda uncomfortable!) – throw up her food on it? These people are nuts!

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  33. Kysa

    I think Beyonce and her hubby spending millions of dollars on a baby is far sadder reflection on society than the idea of gay marriage ever could be. It’s totally unethical for a baby to be given gifts that are greater than the GDP of many small countries. Imagine all the help that money could do for people, even within America itself? How wrong is it to buy a solid gold rocking horse just because you can? It’s consumerism gone mad and a disgusting display of wealth. Gay marriage on the other hand just lets people who love and who are committed to each other stand up in front of their friends and family and attest this. And be legally recognised. I know which one makes me feel more frightened for our future, and it aint gay marriage.

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    • Joey

      Exactly.

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    • Jay

      Agreed you said exactly what I was thinking

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  34. Anonymous

    The Nandos ad is possibly the most lowest taste ad I have ever seen. I remember watching it with my kids and cringing at it. Whatever possessed the Ad standards to approve it? The content, the nudity, the bum wiggling & the fact they show a Mother as a stripper then eating with her kids, how degrading.

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  35. Mel

    I love these ‘sources’ who always claim to have inside info. At the end of the day, does it matter what they give their little girl? There are a lot more extravagant rich people out there – they just don’t make mainstream media.

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  36. detachableprincess

    “Coffee first arrived on the European continent by means of Venetian trade merchants. Once in Europe this new beverage fell under harsh criticism from the Catholic Church. Many felt the pope should ban coffee, calling it the drink of the devil. To their surprise, the pope, already a coffee drinker, blessed coffee declaring it a truly Christian beverage.”

    Surely, our current pope should at least TRY homosexuality before speaking so strongly against it? ;)

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    • red shoes

      *laughs*

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    • TheMamaCat

      Could not love this comment more.
      Kudos DP!!
      “Like” x1000

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  37. Anonymous

    I think its all relative to what they make. 1.5 Million sounds like alot to us but to them that’s not much at all.

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    • red shoes

      of course it’s all relative. There are people that thought I was extravagant and wasting money when I bought my son a “Sophie’ giraffe at $39…

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  38. Joey

    I don’t get the fuss about Beyonce. Sure she has a nice voice, is sexy, a good performer, can dance. But beyond that?
    I’ve never heard much about her values or anything like that. She and J-Z (like most high-flying celebrities) just seem to be all about accumulating cash and then showing it off through bling etc. Sheesh.

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    • Mel

      Oh you should read an interview with her. She’s magnificent.

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      • Joey

        In what way?
        And you do realise pretty much everything celebs say is filtered and approved by pr people. Appearing nice/awesome/fabulous is a business.

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        • D

          “And you do realise pretty much everything celebs say is filtered and approved by pr people. Appearing nice/awesome/fabulous is a business.”

          Thank you, it would be great if everyone realised this. She may very well be the nicest person, but you can’t possibly know this by reading her interviews because her interviews, like any A list celebrity, are completely contrived and are pretty much written by her people so she can appear a certain way.

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    • Lou

      I thought I was only the one who thought this.

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  39. Oy, Paul Watson…if I had wanted you to get any of my money, I would have sent you a donation…but I didn’t because I don’t agree with your stupid, self-serving, over-the-top publicity stunts that have nothing to do with the cause you are supposedly supporting and everything to do do with your own sense of self-importance and ego…

    Hands off my hard-earned taxes…pay for the “rescue” of your guys yourself!!

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    • Rick Morton

      So much for the honour of the skipper and all that. Sea Shepherd would make me far happier if they just stuck to chasing and getting in the way of the Japanese whaling fleet … without any of these ridiculous stunts. $^&&*()*(&

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      • Exactly! They don’t need the stunts…just get in the way…

        Oh, and stop treating the Australian Government as the enemy…you’re targeting the wrong thing…

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        • Joey

          I guess they feel the Aust. Govt is part of the problem as they could do a lot more to help protect the whales.

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          • That is so FAR from the truth…it’s largely been the Australian Government’s persistent stand at the International Whaling Commission over the past 40 years that has maintained the commercial whaling ban…

            As much as we might hate whaling of any kind, the few whales the Japanese still kill each year (even under the guise of “research”) are not putting the current whale numbers in danger…

            You need to pick your fights carefully sometimes…for the Sea Sheppard to accuse the Australian Government of not doing enough to stop whaling is ridiculous…if anything, all the Sea Sheppard is doing is artificially creating tensions between the Australian and Japanese governments…this doesn’t help the Australian Government when it comes to maintaining the ban on commercial whaling.

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            • Joey

              I said, ‘I guess THEY FEEL’ .
              I don’t know enough about it from either side – will have to do some research. Cheerio.

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            • Susan As Well

              There’s a ban on commercial whaling? Oh, quick! Someone tell the Japanese! Ahhh, that’s right the Australian government told them already and they stopped whaling and went home straight away … because they don’t want things get tense between us

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    • red shoes

      he is kind of like the naughty kid at school. Whispering in other children’s ears ‘go on do it, do it’, then the other kid gets caught, he stand and says ‘well, I didn’t do anything!!’
      That behaviour, along with always expecting the government to bail you out, shits me.
      I agree Rick, those guys were more honourable and deserving of donations when they were just ‘getting in the way’.

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    • Anonymous

      Why should they pay for the rescue of these three? For the record, they are NOT “their guys”, they actually have nothing to do with either Paul Watson or the Sea Shepherd and boarded the boat off their own backs, they belong to the protest group Forest Rescue Australia.

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      • Well, if that’s true, then Paul Watson should butt out of the issue altogether…

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      • Em

        Why should the australian government pay all the costs to retrieve them? They have committed a crime, the japanese have every right to take them back to japan and persecute them for trespassing.

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        • Anonymous

          Not really considering they boarded in Australian waters DESPITE what the Australian government says.

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          • Em

            Yes really, it didn’t matter that they were in australian waters, they didn’t have the authority to board the ship. It’s still a crime, despite the fact the japanese may also have been in the wrong as well. If the anti-whalers want to keep the moral upper hand, they need to be aware of and act within the law.

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            • Anonymous

              Just as the Japanese boat shouldn’t have been in our waters.

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  40. Haven Maven

    That bloody Coles ad with Normie Rowe and Curtis Stone. Makes me think Normie must be low on super funds.

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    • Yeah, I thought that too…sad…

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    • KLS

      Thank you!
      I have been trying to figure out whether that add is meant to be funny, or if it is just tragic.
      I hope Coles paid Normie in T bones, he looks like he could do with a feed.

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      • Haven Maven

        I thought he looked like he’s had a stroke!

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  41. amyintheworld

    The pope is a moron. I dont even care if I’m causing offence anymore, because I’d easily say that at a dinner party! When will people realise that if gay people can legally marry, it will NOT mean that more people will become gay, thus ‘threatening humanity’! Nor will it mean that straight people marry less, or have children less. All it will mean is that everyone has the same marital rights. Seriously. I’m sick of all this fear mongering from political and religious leaders, because there are still people who believe them. I’m angry.

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    • I think Tim Minchin says it best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHRDfut2Vx0

      (Definitely NSFW)

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      • Bellamelb

        I don’t even have to open the link to know what song that is… absolutely positively NSFW

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      • Jane DJ

        I’m glad I read this far, cos I was itching to add that link too!

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      • TheMamaCat

        OMFG Tim Minchin is brilliant – love his stuff.
        Yep, I didn’t need to open the link to know which song it was either – and it’s extremely NSFW!
        And I’ve had it stuck firmly in my head ever since watching “Tim Minchin vs the SSO” on ABC a few weeks ago… which is a bit dangerous when you’re a parent – I’ve *almost* started to sing it out loud so many times! :-P
        #reallyinappropriateforsmallears

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  42. Nico

    Good work, Benedict.

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  43. JosieY

    Today is my daughter’s 5th birthday! That’s big news! It’s also the anniversary of a lot of the flooding in brisbane, particularly around centenary/jindalee areas.

    As for the Pope… for such a holy man, I really think he has it wrong.

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    • Faybian

      Its my 15 year wedding anniversary. My groom is currently asleep and snoring….

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      • TheMamaCat

        It’s my wedding anniversary too!!!
        Together 15yrs, married 7 :-)

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    • Lou

      Around my area of the centenary suburbs, we didn’t get flooded til the 12th and 13th. I woke up at 2am on the 12th after my husband had spent most of the night clearing out jindalee homes to find water in my street.

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  44. FlyByNight

    The first thing that came to my mind on a crystal encrusted high chair? “That’ll be fun to clean…”

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    • Bebe21

      i thought the same thing…. then i realised that she probably wont be the one cleaning it!! Imagine trying to get weetbix out…. that stuff dries like cement!!!!

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      • JosieY

        Come off it – that kid’ll never eat weetbix!

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        • nursemim

          Organic quinoa pancakes with chia seeds or smoked salmon with cavier will be tricky to get out too…….

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      • SusieQ

        Not safe for children 3 yrs and under. Contains parts which may be a choking risk. :)

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