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Victoria Haschka

 

 

 

 

First comes marriage. Then comes the baby.

Except when there’s a list.

When on our honeymoon my husband presented me his baby bucket list, part of me thought he was stalling. And a part of me worried I’d declared vows to a man who didn’t want children. It was a long list.  Filled with hope in one hand and a passport in the other we set off:

To brave riots and see:

1. The great pyramids.
2. Eat at the best restaurant in the world
3. Chase Northern Lights
4. See lions in Africa
5. See the Grand Canyon
6. See the Chitchen Itza
7. To live on the other side of the world.

The list also housed things we wanted to learn to do:

8. Surf in Baja
9. Dance properly in our kitchen
10. Ski over an international border.

At the end it housed things I lobbied for before two became three

11.To perfect a signature dish
12. Take a carriage ride through Central Park
13. And maybe, just maybe cage dive with sharks.

Through the adventures I’m learning the list isn’t just about places, sights or things. It’s about the lessons we needed to learn along the way.

It’s about knowing you can still love your partner after 2 hours sleep in 48, when you’re both racked with Montezuma’s revenge. It’s about being able to laugh when they bring the wrong passport to the airport (that was me).

It’s discovering how one person needs to hold the other while the other dips, the strength you need to carry your own gear- and build your own family.

The list has haunted us for three years- a glorious millstone in our marriage. It’s near the end that I discovered who the list really is for.

Years before my husband had heard his parents lament the things they wished they’d done before they had him.  So when his mum died too young she’d never explored all the streets of Paris or seen the sunsets of Santorini.

I’ve realised the list isn’t for us- it was for our unborn kids. So they never feel the guilt he did of robbing his parents of a chance to live large, and of embedding in our life a sense that you really do have to live every day like it might be your last.

But more than anything, the list is training for a new kind of awe.

We may have seen a lot of the world, but we know that before we have kids; we haven’t seen anything yet.

Victoria (Tori) Haschka is a Sydney born food travel writer. Her blog follows her efforts in feeding The Hungry One (the husband) and their quest to find the best places to eat, drink and be merry.

What do you want to do before you have children or what do you wish you had done?

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  1. Beedreams

    Nope!

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  2. afw

    Having already travelled a lot… my list is now these:
    - get married
    - own our own home that we live in

    I’d love to see the northern lights, but why go all that way when you can see the southern lights in southern Tasmania? They don’t get anywhere near as much publicity! And I could do that with a baby / child in tow.
    Galapagos Islands would also be amazing I expect, but maybe even that could be done with a baby/ child in tow.

    Other things I want to do (even during motherhood)
    - start own business
    - write books /screenplays

    If I were to snap-freeze my current life then look back on it now – my wish would be to have be a wife and mother next, not travel even more than I currently have.

    In having a child, my life would change significantly, but it wouldn’t just stop.

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  3. Janine

    No travel before kids. Had kids. Kids have grown up. Kids not damaged. Oh, and have a very full and fulfilling life, career, holidays and we own our beautiful home. Guess you might say we have it all!

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  4. Smith

    Really, this list can be boiled down to just one thing:

    1. Be rich

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  5. Fiona parry-jones

    I am having a baby in 5 weeks and have spent 3 great years married so far with no regrets about my pre baby bucket list. We have travelled to Europe, partied hard, eaten at amazing restaurants and now we look forward to sharing the next chapters with children. Life isn’t going to end for us it is a new beginning and we are going to make it fun!

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  6. Emma

    I always wanted to travel and then I found myself pregnant at 19. I love my son dearly, more than anything in this world and I would not change a thing but I highly recommend crossing things off your list before you have children because even though having children is an adventure in itself, it’s a very long adventure that takes patience and love and wine. Don’t live a life of regret (and I am not saying I live a life of regret) but sometimes I do wish I had seen a little bit more of the world. Now I have 4 children, a 3 year old twin 11 months olds so my travel plans are saved for retirement. Hahahahaha!

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  7. Noelle

    This sounds incredibly one-sided. And he presented it to you on your honeymoon?! Surely this is the stuff you learn about a partner before you get married..

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  8. KK

    awesome read! loved it xx

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  9. Larli

    Did the baby bucket list thing. Was married 5 years before welcoming #1. Now have #2…and wish we’d had them much earlier. ‘Bugger the bucket list’ I wish I could tell 2009 me.
    You’ll never be ready for them, never ever.
    So why wait? Get out there and procreate!

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  10. Danikajaye

    I have always said I want to do a “big trip” with my fiance before we have kids. We are going on this “big trip” next year as our honeymoon. The type of travel we want to do on this trip isn’t the type that suits children. It includes Amsterdam, hiking and sky diving in the Swiss Alps, bar hopping in Mykonos, lazing around in Santorini. I had already booked a trip to Europe when my partner and I first got together. He could not afford to come and so I went on my own. I had a great time but I always found myself wishing he was there. Now we get to go together and I’m just so excited. He has not travelled much but he has the perfect personality for it. He loves different food and accents, seeing amazing things and has that attitude that can ride out set backs or difficulties. I know the Swiss Alps will just blow his mind.

    We did discuss going to Africa for our honeymoon but decided to save that one as I can imagine that seeing lions and elephants and all that stuff would be a fantastic thing to do with kids when they get a bit older. We also talked about touring Australia but again decided that trip was a good one for kids.

    I certainly understand having a bucket list. Kids can be hard work. I look at it like having a good holiday before starting a new job. You start off in a good place, full of enthusiasm and energy. That is how I want to be as a parent.

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  11. Fiona

    Having children doesn’t negate travel, it just changes the type of experiences you have. We had our children when I was 23, 25 and 31. I’m now 50 and we have had some amazing experiences travelling in Australia and New Zealand with our children over the years.

    We are now much freer (as our children are grown up) and more financially able (as we’ve paid off our house) to travel further afield and yet we are not too old to have those exciting experiences that we have been planning for years.

    Yes, we’re finally working through our “destinations” list…and we also have the joy of having our grown family. (I worry about many young couples I know putting the babies too far back on the agenda and missing out on the wonder of having your own family because of reduced fertility)..

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  12. missjessmac

    I think this is a really brilliant idea! My parents got married quite late in life, and while both have travelled and done all of the things they wanted to do before they met each other, they don’t really have any stories about BOTH of them.

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  13. Sparky

    But isn’t ‘opportunity cost’ part of all stages of life? We got married young-ish and, prior to marriage, bought a modest house. That curbed our wanderlust until we had been married 5 years when we had saved (yes, we had a mortgage AND saved!) enough to travel, which we did. Then we had kids.

    There’s a heap of stuff we missed by getting married early on. There’s a heap of stuff we missed by saddling ourselves with a mortgage while we were young. There’s a heap of stuff we missed by travelling as a couple and not as singles. There’s a heap of stuff we’re missing while our children are small. There’ll be a heap of stuff we’ll miss while we choose to pay private school fees. BUT there’s a heap of perks that have come from our decisions too. I believe you make your decisions and live with them. I try to avoid the ‘if only’ way of thinking as it serves no positive purpose.

    No point regretting what you missed while you were child free (as the husband’s parents did in this case), it’ll only reduce the clarity of the opportunities and experiences you have in front of you now.

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  14. Michelle

    My question for all the readers saying how much they have travelled since having kids is, ‘how on earth do you pay for it?!’ I relate to the concept of a baby bucket list. I have been married six years and the reason I want to get a bit more travel done before kids come along is that when we do have them, I hope to have an extended period of time off work in order to spend time with them, and I am not sure how we will be able to afford extensive overseas travel on one income. I don’t think this decision is selfish. Small children couldn’t care less about the Eiffel Tower, all they want is quality time with their parents.

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    • Dkmum

      I suppose travel doesn’t need to equal long haul flights across the world to tick certain popular places off a list. Camping would give you as many experiences and might take focus off having to be in certain places a certain times but rather enjoy the journey with the family.
      I’m from Europe and part of our budget is going home every 2-3 years. We may safe elsewhere but that’s a priority to me

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    • Louisa

      Hi Michelle, we love travelling with our kids and from our perspective we can afford it because we choose it. Other friends of ours have weekly date nights, or buy fancy tecnology, others are big savers and don’t spend much. We’re all on reasonably modest incomes (sub $80K family income w a mortgage & 2 kids) and for us, it’s about choosing that travel is something we want to do and then putting $$ towards it. One year we forgo installing central heating, moved our mattress and portacot to the living room next to the one working heater and spend the winter sleeping there. We’d figured out that the cost of installing heating was the same as the cost of a 3week holiday to Vietnam and so we chose the latter and now have a great story to go along with it!

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  15. luly

    My Partner and I are about to go on our big trip away to dosome travelling before settling down.

    We hope to get pregnant on or just after the trip (although at 38 it might not be so simple).
    Ive been to a lot of places so feel like Ive done enough, but my Partner hasn’t. So its a great opportunity for him to feel like hes been and done a bit. And I think a great experiance together. If we can travel for 4 months and not kill eachother then we should be ready for bigger challenges!

    Im a big Traveller, and I know that I will continue to do so with or without kids. Travelling is a great experiance for kids too.

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    • AS

      I got pregnant at 38 in Italy on our honeymoon. It’s possible!

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  16. Renee

    Great article and one I don’t think implies that life ends once children are born, simply that children change things and make ‘Eating at the best restaurant in the world’ just that little bit harder.
    As the eldest of 4, I sometimes feel like my parents missed out on a lot (overseas travel etc) because I was born – not that they have ever implied this and certainly they have experienced and achieved much since my birth.
    I am 30 weeks pregnant with our first baby and will be forever glad that my husband and I have taken the time to do a few things both on our own and together before having children.
    While there is plenty more we still want to do and will do with our baby, up till now we have enjoyed opportunities to travel overseas, experience adventure and new cultures together and live life a little selfishly. This has enabled us in our opinion to look on bub’s arrival as our next exciting life chapter rather than something that is going to hold us back from future experiences and opportunities.

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  17. MissT

    Late to the party, but what a fun article! I have a very short before-baby-bucket-list, with the before baby bit being time constrained due to my own ovarian issues (well, recommended before 30).

    I am so incredibly grateful I have managed to do 2/3, especially as the first is really out of my control. I am thankful all the time for how lucky I have been.

    My list:
    1. Get married (done).
    2. Buy a house (done)
    3. Travel some of Europe and USA (planned for next year).

    I am surprised by the comments about the author viewing children as the end of her life when the last sentence of the article says “We may have seen a lot of the world, but we know that before we have kids; we haven’t seen anything yet.”

    To me, that sounds like she is super excited about having kids and knows it will be the greatest adventure of her life.

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  18. Melanie

    yes, because life ends when you have children.
    Or does it? It is perfectly legal to travel with your children OR even to leave them with family while you go for short jaunts. They’ll be fine.
    As the saying goes, life is what happens while you’re busy making other plans…..

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  19. JamandCream

    Ahh lists and how I love them! I adore traveling and plan to do much more before and if I have children. Hearing stories from my mother’s backpacking days and all her adventures spurred me own to create my own. I hope that if I do have children that they will find my stories just as interesting!

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  20. Jenny

    Bravo for taking the time and space to be just selfish enough to treat and fulfill yourselves before the reality of ‘settling down’ begins. The insidious rot that resentment and ‘what ifs’ can do to a relationship should be avoided where possible and it sounds like you have done this. The culture of everything in life being sacrificed for the sake of children needs to be challenged and I like what you have done.

    What wonderful stories you will have to tell your children; advice to them about travelling and adventuring across the globe; guidance for how to work and support another person; and an enthusiasm for life passed on through your enthusiasm for living.

    Again…. bravo!

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  21. erin23

    Good on you Victoria!! I have a darling daughter and actually fell pregnant while I was travelling. The one thing that I wish I had knocked off the bucket list before I had her though was my degree – it’s so much harder to balance study and part time work these days! My dreams of travelling have been replaced by dreams of sleeping for more than 4 hours at a time…

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  22. Guest

    What a lovely idea. I like the idea of bucket lists, be they before baby or life long.

    To those people huffing ‘but life doesn’t end and you can travel with kids’, sure you can, but come on, are you seriously arguing that it wouldn’t be awesome to stroll down a boulevard in Paris hand in hand as a young couple without worrying if the hotel appointed babysitter that costs the earth is trustworthy?

    You should keep on living when you have kids and they should live it with you, but some things are special as a child free care free couple and you should feel you can pursue it and enjoy it.

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    • sally

      Love your comment Guest! agree 100%

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  23. never again

    1. seen a psychologist about my mental health issues – so that it didn’t turn into ante & post natal depression.
    2. spoken to someone about going through IVF – other than my husband
    3. enjoyed being pregnant – without fearing every second that I would lose my twins.
    4. had the strength to stand up for myself.
    5. focused on how good it was all going to be rather than how hard.

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  24. Mel b

    Honestly couldn’t careless if you feel the need to do it before or after you have kids. I have many friends who just love traveling around with their kids and others who are happy to leave them home. We are moving around Australia with work, and the best thing we get to do it with the kids. We plan to go the US in a couple of years, go to Disneyland boys will love the NBA with their dad!!

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  25. Josh

    It’s a twin edged sword. I was always happy to be travelling the world, ticking off a list, whilst my friends settled down and popped them out. Now at 35, with my first, now 4 months, thoughts immediately turn to how many years I’ve lost to do stuff with him, how old I’m going to be before I first dive with sharks with him swimming by my side, how old I’ll be when we first snowboard together. He won’t be in the way, he’ll add to it.

    For me there’s little on your list that I wouldn’t – and won’t – do with a kid, my wife and I travel to interesting places and do interesting things, we always have done and we always will. We’re not going to suddenly start doing package holidays in crappy beach resorts because we have kids.

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  26. jessy

    In 2010 we planned to move to Africa after finally finishing studying and having 2 incomes to save with. 6 months into planning we had a somewhat surprising positive pregnancy test and in 2011 we had a gorgeous little girl. Next week we are all moving to Africa! I’m not saying its a better or worse way to do things but it’s the way things turned out for us. Our adventures will be different than if we went before bub arrived but they are still adventures and we are bloody excited to find out what it will be like!

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  27. Jess

    Baby bucket lists are such a good idea! I’ve never thought about it before. I guess though, subconsciously, I’ve got a list in my head of things I want to do before we have kids.

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  28. Shaezy

    Another thought on this one – I have adrenalin junkie friends who are doing all their “dare devil” adverturing before kids, because they don’t want to risk unnecessary injury or worse once they are parents. I’m talking base and bungee jumping, sky diving, mountain climbing, deep sea diving etc. Their reasoning is that once they have children, it is selfish of them to impose their own desire for dangerous and extreme sports on their children when there is a very real risk of accidents. Granted we could be hit by a bus tomorrow but I get where they are coming from. They are hoping they can get a lot of it out of their systems now. Good luck to them I say – wasn’t there an uproar only a few weeks ago over a photo of a mother mountain climbing with a baby on their back?

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  29. Kathy W

    I travelled a lot before my sons came along – had a ball, worked in London, backpacked all over Europe, the USA & Canada.

    But by far the best experience was travelling with my sons when they were 7 and 11 years old. Perfect age to travel with kids – not too young that they will remember nothing and not too old to be stuck with ‘boring old mum’. Going to Disneyland Anaheim with them at that age is one of the greatest experiences of my life.

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    • Kerryn

      Love this – I’ve just been hiking with my 5 year old, she loves it, and it’s been such a special thing to share with her. My 8 year old really is not outdoorsy, and the 2 year old got carried for most of it, but they all enjoyed the special family time doing different things to the norm.
      Taking them all to the US in a couple of years time once the little one can travel without screaming at people. Can’t wait.

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  30. Some random

    Travelling without kids has been great, there are some places I’ve been that definitely would have been better with children to share it with (Disneyland, the Singapore Zoo) but most of the time I’ve been grateful that my husband and I only had to worry about ourselves.

    If there’s one thing I’ve been really glad to get down pat before having children (aside from a job with generous maternity leave and flex time arrangements) it’s learning how to cook, properly, to a budget each week. I have friends who when they cook, always end up using the most expensive cuts of meats and fish (chicken breasts,eye fillets, salmon steaks) and couldn’t do a decent vegetable side to save their lives, let alone have any concept of seasonality. I’m glad I’ve been able to develop some depression era hausfrau skills.

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  31. Anon

    A few days i had my 3rd child, who was unplanned.
    7 months ago i had to delete what was originally set for my baby’s due date and that was a trip to san sebastian, Spain. This trip was organised with my husband and 4yo plus our 2 yo. My other 2 children are the result of IVF.
    17 years ago i was pulled out of a burning car unconcious.
    My life lessons are simple. Life is a gift, my own & those I love. Life does change and its like a box of chocolates, you never know what you ae going to get. So my life is my own & i am happy. Sometimes my bucket is empty & sometimes its full. But by god I’m in it to have a go & be happy.

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  32. Melanie

    Don’t you hate it how all the mothers come on mamamia to talk up how wonderful having kids are and that’s their only purpose in life? That’s what’s sad. There’s nothing wrong with not wanting kids, or putting kids off until you see the world. I for one agree with the author.

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    • No kids for me....

      I agree.
      I do not have kids. Don’t want them, currently.
      I have been with my (now) husband for ten years….we’re in our early 30′s own our own place..have travelled extensively….have jobs etc. We get DRILLED by all and sundry about “when” we’re going to have kids….and people just can’t possibly understand that we’re not sure we want them…..I know, I know…everyone tells me how wonderful it is. But I am just not convinced it’s for me. I really like the ‘Mammamia’ website….but often I feel like I don’t quite belong as a reader here….because if you don’t think kids are the be-all and end-all, and if you don’t have any, then you’re not quite as worthy as the rest……..just my opinion of course…….

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      • Jemma

        My husband to be (3 weeks til the wedding!) and I are 25. We do not want kids. We have done so much research into this decision. We would choose things differently if that’s the lifestyle we want. We adore travel more than children. We have dreams of what we want to accomplish that we would like to come true more than the desire to become parents (risky things that would not be smart options if we had kids). It comes down to us choosing ourselves as number one – not just for a short time in our lives – but forever. People think this is selfish. Isn’t it silly to have kids when we don’t want them? And if we don’t have them.. why shouldn’t we be thinking of what we want out of life. This isn’t being selfish when there’s no one else in question. Just us. We’re a very happy family of two! :)
        I also get very heated when I see women who are ‘just mothers’. You still have your own wants and needs and many decades of YOUR life to come.. think about what you’d like to do.. not just what your kids want.

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  33. traveller

    One thing I find frustrating on Mamamia is that commentators often feel the need to put down somebody’s contribution because it doesn’t conform to their world view. The whole point of these is to get another’s perspective on life. Yes, it may not be the same as your’s but that’s kind of the point – would be kind of boring if every one of us had the same life as you.

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    • Anonymous

      Is having another point of view to the writer ‘putting them down’? Thought the whole idea of these forums was to explore and express different perspectives. It would be boring if we only commented if we agreed.

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    • Anonymous

      I agree. Instead of celebrating what people write and think, there are many people who continually take affront at some really lovely ideas.

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  34. anon

    have you got the river “denial” on your list!!!!

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  35. Christine

    I don’t have children yet so I guess these are the things on my to do list for the meantime:
    - Travelling around Australia for 6 months (like Anon!)
    - Volunteer at a third world country
    - Travelling everywhere else!
    - Work in the UK or Singapore for 6 months
    - Buy a property
    - Start my own clinic
    - To start photography lessons
    - To learn how to cook!

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  36. Anon

    Ah I love this!
    -Drive around Australia for 6 months, true back packer style working as I go and living out the back of a wagon!
    -Dominate the Kokoda trail
    -Work my way from Russia, across Europe and down into Africa. Might take a few trips to get that one done!
    -Return to India and NOT lose my passport (Birthday in a foreign visa office, anyone?)
    -Live in Singapore
    -Do something that truely terrifies me, sky diving!
    -Have a Vegas birthday

    …..just off the top of my head!

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  37. oddsocks

    When I read the title of this post I was really curious… what 13 things could be so important before you had kids??? Your list sounds exciting and wonderful but could almost be summarised to one dot point: travel the world :)
    My list was a bit more generalised… I wanted to get married, work for at least 4 years and establish a career path (wanted to work for at least as long as my degree took to earn!), get a dog (and keep it alive!), buy a house and pay it off as much as possible so that we’d be able to live on one income for several years while our kids are under 5. We also went on a couple of holidays but much lower scale (NZ, Malaysia, Gold Coast etc and always on the cheap!).
    Anyway, I have no regrets and am glad I did all those things before kids as it has made good groundwork for these hard years now with 3 small children, one moderate income but a lovely home and happy life.
    Good luck, enjoy your journeys and keep putting more things in the bucket. The plans will change but the experiences will be just as wonderful (if not more so).

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  38. bassbassgirl

    I love traveling and I won’t lie, it’s much harder and for me and more expensive with a child. I definitely think there are some places that are best visited without kids and I would encourage people who are young and planning kids one day to get some places ticked off your list.

    However, I have just come back from my second trip away with my toddler son (14 months old) and he loves holidays. This trip was flying from the gold coast to Canberra and then we went out to the snowy mountains. I carried him in a baby backpack to the top of Mount Kosiuszcko and down, plus many more bushwalks. He had a ball at the National Gallery, museum, NASA deep space communication centre and we also dragged him along to a couple of wineries (keep note, wineries usually have very friendly dogs and great gardens, you can tag team with your partner between the tastings and child minding duties, or in the end one of you ends up tasting the wine and then you take the glass outside so they can have a taste). So it’s definitely harder, less relaxing and more full on but if you try to think of travelling with a kid as a type of extreme sport you will be fine :)

    Oh and I have to add, you end up meeting and taking to so many more people than you normally would. My boy will just take off and run up to other people and either stare at them or laugh, giggle and wave. It makes for great introductions.

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  39. Flutterby

    Can you ever really quench wanderlust?

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    • Guest

      Flutterby, I can’t seem to quench it :( and I am 59. Been travelling since I was 19. With kids, without kids, you can’t beat it. Sadly on the pension these days and have not got the money to do it. Just happy I have the memories :)

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  40. Anonymous

    What a great list! One thing I like about these type of lists is the anticipation. I love planning holidays far in advance so I have something to look forward to :)

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  41. anon

    I didn’t have the luxury of a baby bucket list, I found out I was expecting a couple of months after my husband and I got engaged (guess I got a little excited and took my eye off the ball – ha ha) I don’t have any regrets though, I have a gorgeous boy and girl and it’s been one hell of a ride. I personally think it’s a little controlling to plan out your life like this, ‘I’ll go here, go there, do this and then after that I’ll get pregnant STRAIGHT away. Life doesn’t always work like that. As the wise Mia once said, ‘Children are a gift, not a given.’ I think if you know you want children and you’re in the right relationship you kind of have to just go for it. It’s never the right time, but it’s always the right baby!

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    • Anonymous

      Nicely said & couldn’t agree more!

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  42. Lil

    I have a long list of things to do. I am lucky to have travelled extensively before I was married. I now have three beautiful children, a fabulous job and an adoring husband. Since marriage and kids I have still been working down my list. I have enjoyed holidays with girlfriends, travelled for work overseas and enjoyed weekends in Amsterdam, London and New York, travelled with my husband and travelled with the whole family. I have completed my masters degree, partcipated in meaningful volunteer work and continued to expand my network of friends. Live every day like it’s your last is my motto. Having a family has meant making choices and prioritizing but it hasn’t stopped me or my hubby from following our dreams as individuals, as a couple and as a family.

    Victoria I hope you don’t view children as a barrier to achieving your goals in life. If you are lucky enough to have them they become part of the journey and bring a whole new glorious perspective to your world.

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  43. Kate

    I loved travelling the world with my husband back when he was just my boyfriend. I love showing our 3 kids photos of places we want to take them back to one day – we have managed a few big trips with littlies and have loved seeing the UK and Thailand from a parents point of view. I’m also loving planning our 10th wedding anniversary ‘kid free’ holiday in 2 years!

    You can LOVE it all!

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  44. MayaM

    I think its really sad that you need to do all this stuff before you have kids. life is not over when you have a baby, but your priorities change, maybe your kids would like to learn to surf too or see the pyramids. it says more about your parents in law parenting style that your husband thought he prevented them living their dreams than anything else. I have kids but it doesnt feel like I have written off my life. and I cant imagine saying I wish I had done more for myself before I had you to them. that would be awful.

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    • Edwina

      Agreed. I get that the tone of this is fun and a really lovely couple thing but I think the biggest lesson the author should learn from this is how not to parent her children. How unfair to burden a child with guilt over something they had no control over. I also found it funny that you & your husband bonded over 2 ours sleep in 48. Wait until kids to really bond over sleep deprivation! Yes, being childless is beautiful- you can be spontaneous & I actually think the bucket list is a cute idea. But just you wait until kids- the most beautiful, amazing, nurturing, educating, bonding experience you will ever have.

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      • Jess

        “Wait until kids to really bond over sleep deprivation!”

        Am I the only one who can’t stand the patronising “wait until you have kids” comments?

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        • Edwina

          Didn’t mean it as patronizing- more to say that the sleep deprivation thing isn’t reserved to travelling or partying.

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    • Stardust

      I don’t think “it’s really sad” – I think it is just a choice that these two people have made. The author is NOT suggesting that “life is over when you have a baby” – just merely that this is the path that they have taken. I think your comment is rude and unnecessary.

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      • kate

        I disagree. To me it seems exactly what she was saying too. It does just go to show however the damage an off-the-cuff remark can have…

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  45. Gin & Tonic

    We had a pre marriage bucket list. we quit our jobs and bought a round the world ticket and travelled for 6 months. We came back broke but had the most amazing experience.

    My pre baby bucket list only had one thing left on it…to get my career change cemented before I took an extended period off with babies. It delayed me starting a family until my mid 30s but was the best decision I ever made because I have been able to work part time in my new career since having babies because I had that experience behind me.

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  46. archie

    My pre-kid bucket list included “lead soldiers in a war zone”. It would be a difficult to sling both the baby and the weapon, I imagine I’d always be grabbing for the wrong one….

    But I’m glad I didn’t wait long after achieving this to have kids. Most of the stuff I thought was mind-blowing pre-kid looks pretty lame now compared to the awesomeness of sharing my life with my little people. Besides, in eight years I’ll be traveling with them as sidekicks, and in eighteen they’ll be watching the dog while Mr A and I travel alone again. It’s not long to wait :)

    http://the-accidental-housewife.blogspot.com.au/

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  47. Bradley

    Completely off the topic…..Victoria you have a killer of a smile !

    Your photo made me smile. Thank you !

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  48. Bradley

    As much as we’d both love children, I know that if and when they come along I won’t be able to sit around the house in my undies whenever I want to.

    But seriously, a bucket list is something that to write and continually change and update as life takes place. There’s many things that I wish that I’d done and many things that I hope that I can do.

    But you wanna know something….I’m content ! No matter whatever life dishes out, in general it’s been pretty darn. :)

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    • InKL

      Of course you can sit around in your undies whenever you want to. For the first (we are up to 7 years) that is. There is something wonderful about starting the weekend off lounging around in a t-shirt and undies (I am the modest one in the family) surrounded by those you love completely comfortable in their own skin (and undies).

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    • Guest

      Oh you will sit around in your undies!

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      • goldilocks

        You may even make breakfast and do the housework without realising you have not got dressed. I have never run around in tshirt and undies more in my life than since having kids.

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  49. Anonymous

    how on earth did you afford all this? god knows i couldn’t have, despite being in a well-paid job, and i didn’t have kids till i was 34.

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    • Feuille

      sometimes it depends on how we prioritise our money. last year i was earning less than $1000 a month and still managed to visit half a dozen new countries. but i had a tiny apartment, no new clothes, no eating out, no car etc..

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  50. Sarah

    We too had a last Hoorah before trying for kids… best thing EVER we did. Even if I lost my job in the process as they didnt’ really like the fact I took off round the world for a few months….

    The really cool thing is that we are now writing a bucket list WITH the kids. We’ve been blessed with two little adventurers and I’m so damn excited about all the things we can do as a team.

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