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schizophrenia 380x390 My sister has schizophrenia

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There are many people with schizophrenia who accomplish amazing things and who would be considered incredibly high achievers with or without the illness. My sister isn’t one of them. Like many people with schizophrenia she plateaued out and has lived slightly outside the mainstream every since, never accomplishing the stratospheric heights expected of her when she was accepted into the conservatorium of music at only 16.

My sister has been largely asymptomatic of psychotic symptoms for many years, thanks to a combination of a stable relationship with her boyfriend (who also has schizophrenia), good enough housing, clozapine, and a fragile network of four siblings, who are at least intimate enough to care for and occasionally annoy each other. She no longer inhabits that paranoid, bizarre and impenetrable world of her early twenties, when she had 6 involuntary psychiatric admissions, each an awful, bewildering chapter, for her (and for us), but even at her best, there remains a residue of those times and that behavior.

She will often stop mid-step in an agonised dilemma as to whether, or how, to proceed with the next step on the pavement towards a shared destination.  I know there is some other context going on for her that I am not privy to, but sometimes, when we need to make the post office before it shuts, I know it’s terrible of me to say so, but it really is just VERY ANNOYING.

Or there’s the phone thing.. she will never, ever, put the receiver down first at the conclusion of a conversation; and once I realised this,  and because I too can be a little annoying, we both stay connected, often for VERY LONG TIMES.

And of course, a lot of what I term ‘annoying behaviour’ is actually just the behaviour of any person trying to finance a pokie, nicotine and alcohol regime on a disability support pension, more out of utter boredom than actual addiction. She is a completely lovable and shrewd operator, a consummate survivor.  It’s the behaviour of someone who essentially lost the confidence to believe she could manage in a more mainstream world, and actually seems pretty content in the world she now lives.  She still always manages to buy a new skirt. She and her partner cook a roast every Sunday. They grow tomatoes. They have friends. They get a special deal at the video shop. It is a small world, but it is their world, and they manage.

It always strikes me as a great irony that when she was younger, desperately unwell and completely without insight, we implored her to acknowledge her limitations and accept that she had an illness… and now that she is in remission, we are always on her back to register with a supported employment agency or enrol in a short course.  Her response, with great drama and authority, is inevitably something along the lines of “I can’t work. I’ve got a mental illness. You don’t know what it’s like!” Hard to argue.

Or the other one ‘Dee, you don’t know what it’s like, some days I just don’t want to get out of bed’.

Me either, sis, me either.

Most of us, if we have not experienced it ourselves, can at least imagine our way into a high prevalence disorder. You cannot open a magazine or newspaper without reading an article about a celebrity or sports star sharing their battle with depression or anxiety. Depression in the new millennium is like leg-warmers in the eighties. Thanks to Jeff Kennett most people would be aware of Beyond Blue (and the apparent importance of heterosexuality in attaining optimum mental health!). Even Bipolar with the saucy ‘increased libido’ of the mania criteria makes everyone a bit nervous and excited.  Much has been achieved in raising the profile and removing the stigma from mood disorders.  But I don’t see many people putting up their hands to say they have schizophrenia. Could you imagine having a quiet conversation with your boss at work ‘look mate, sorry if I’ve been a bit off my game of late, I’ve been feeling a bit psychotic. , I’m sure will all come right eventually, usually does, but yeah, just thought I should mention it…”

My sister had been unwell for years before she got treated for the illness she had. Nobody knew, because it wasn’t what we were looking for, because it wasn’t on our radar, and because funding for public mental health is such that services often don’t kick in until the illness becomes a crisis. And it is that crises, that period of life where it seems all bets are off and the maps make no sense and it is just a vortex of loss and confusion, which takes such a toll on the person with schizophrenia, and on their families.

And the way in which the broader system is organised and resourced to manage an acute psychiatric crises is such that, tragically and ironically, the trauma which so many sufferers of schizophrenia have already endured in their personal histories, will often get played out again.

My sister’s first admission, at the age of nineteen, was to Victoria’s (now closed) Laurandal hospital. She seemed the youngest person there, an anorexic bird of a thing, who had spent the last year meditating and quietly going crazy in the serene atmosphere of an inner city ashram.  She was brought in by the police against her will, drugged till the eyes rolled back in her head and she couldn’t answer her own name, her shoelaces and wallet taken off her and left in a room with no windows and no furniture where she sobbed on the floor and waited for her Guru to hatch an elaborate escape plan.

When my sister was eventually allowed out into the purgatory of a ward, large middle age men with no teeth and smelly clothes leered at her and a woman with tattoos on her face screamed at her to tell her where her baby was. Visiting my sister was terrifying. I can’t imagine what she must have been feeling.

But I wonder if she had stopped feeling anything.  A year since,  both our parents had died within nine months of each other and really, the last ten years before that was your classic Irish alcoholic  nuclear family turned cosmic train wreck, from whichever angle you looked at it.  The ruptures were epic, and often.  There was no safe ground underfoot. I think of that sometimes when my sister literally stops mid step, like she can’t possibly go on; like the decision of where to place the next footfall might actually kill her.

Let’s hope that trauma informed practice leads to more enlightened ways of dealing with psychiatric crises. The medical model only goes so far.  We are our histories and not just our biology’s.

Last time my sister visited I saw her approach from a distance and she seemed to be talking to herself in an absorbed and animated manner. My heart lurched into that ‘uh oh here we go’ place; the place of fear and chaos, the bedfellows of a psychotic episode.  But when she got closer she recognized me, took her IPOD earplugs out of her ears,  stopped singing along to Brittney Spears, smiled warmly and said ‘Hi Dee, can I borrow some money”?

She is in the race along with the rest of us.

I feel lucky that she is as well as she is.

Listen to Dee discuss this further on Mamamia on Sky News:

Dee Madigan is a panelist on the Gruen Transfer as well as a political commentator. She is also Ambassador of the Schizophrenia Research Institute.

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134 Comments so far

  1. sanuks

    Как, где правильно отдыхать? Подобный вопрос задают себе ежегодно и даже не один раз в год многие миллионы людей. Естественно, что все имеют свои индивидуальные предпочтения и представления о том, в какой стране, на каком континенте, в какой климатической зоне, на какого типа курорте отдыхать. Но, несмотря на все эти различия, имеются и общие основные принципы выбора места, способа, организации отдыха:
    - отдых должен быть безупречным со стороны сервиса, точности, заблаговременного решения всех вопросов по выбору курорта, отеля, авиаперевозчика, трансфера и т.д.

    туры во францию

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  2. 4girls

    My question is where do we start to arrange help for her?
    She refuses to believe she has any issues?
    She refuses medication and counseling?

    We are a family of siblings concerned about our sister who has been displaying behaviors that brings us to this site. We have been dealing with such behaviors for the past 8 years and have only recently been given the opportunity to see it first hand with the recent conversations she has been having with us.
    We find she is constantly having screaming conversations with herself at anytime anywhere, about the government/media/science/electricity/radiation and God intervening in her life.
    I received a letter on Friday in the mail from her, which was her WILL, this is not the first time I have received this it’s been the second in 6mths.
    I feel we need direction as to where to go for help without her consent.
    The WILL states in detail exactly the behavior we have seen.

    This is a quick snippet of it.
    “I GIVE MY FULL SUPPORT to my sisters should they wish to sue the persons, people or entity that deliberately and consciously made a public spectacle of my life, made my private life public and consequently made the last eight years of my life a living hell to which my family and I all suffered and consequently other people have benefited. All of this was done without my consent. I felt completely oppressed and fearful during this time. I felt like a subject of a social experiment. I was well aware that I was being watched and violated on a daily basis and that my life was a “free-for-all”. I was subjected to psychological and emotional manipulation in public and subliminal manipulation through the media since 2004. Everyone acted like it was ‘not real’ and that I was suffering from a Mental Illness. I believe that people decided that I was suffering with afflictions such as delusions of insanity, delusions of grandeur, a “God” delusion, dipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder, and paranoid schizophrenia. However I was suffering depression until approx. 2011.”
    To my siblings we are quite concerned and need to know where to go next.
    We are feeling lost and need to get help I feel fairly soon. my last conversation with her was about all of the above and I told her I would not let anyone do this to her we would stop his together. She mentioned that they have left her for dead. Which leaves her not many avenues for reconciliation.

    PLEASE HELP US HELP HER. Before it’s to late.

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  3. Zoraimmarne
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  4. Nicole

    I can completely understand the situation your sister is in. Although she is in remission, she feels like she cant work because of her mental illness. I am more or less in a remission myself (I too am schizophrenic) but after you suffer from a number of serious psychotic breaks, you feel incredibly fragile. You feel and in a way know that the slightest disruption or stress can thrust you back into the depth of another episode. You feel weak, beaten down and afraid of what could happen.

    Also, psychotic drugs can cause a number of side effects, such as trouble concentrating, restlessness, emotional emptiness/apathy, laziness and so on..so that alone can be an issue.

    The episodes one can experience during psychosis makes you feel like you’ve completely lost control – like nothing is within your power whatsoever..but when you come out of it..you have this desire to create a simple, quiet world where you can control what’s around you and regain some of that lost power.

    Finally, when you are labelled with a psychotic disorder, you feel so different from everyone around you. You know that if anyone found out they would most likely look down on you. Every time I go to events or am surrounded by other people, I am afraid they will somehow find out and I will be ridiculed as a result. This makes me want to isolate myself in a way – i prefer to create my own little world, where i know I will be accepted and appreciated for who i am.

    I don’t know how to explain it but I emphasize with your sister 100 percent.

    All I want to do is work and find a purpose for myself but it feels like one of the hardest tasks I could ever undertake.

    Working feels nearly impossible! :(

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  5. Emma

    The honesty of these comments have made my eyes well up such that I can’t read any more! My aunt was diagnosed with schizophrenia when she was 17 – I find it interesting that it so often surfaces around this age. It’s a terrible problem – in my opinion, it’s up there with cancer, and yet with nowhere near the research funding. I find it awful how little funding is put into the research, support and public education.

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  6. chytrid

    Hi! My name is Jill and I’m a Schizophrenic… or was, anyway (also FYI, we prefer the term ‘person with schizophrenia’ as my illness does not define who I am! (or… was)).

    Anyhoo, I got sick when I was sixteen, and similar to your sister, I spent many years in and out of psych wards. I’m lucky in that my parents had private health insurance, so I got sent to a private hospitals psych ward with foxtel and comfy beds and good food. Make no mistake – I was still going out of my mind (while I was going out of my mind), but the environment made it a little easier for me.

    I’ve been off medication since I was 23 and now at 29 a fully functioning member of society. As I said, I’m one of the lucky ones.

    I know how hard this is for you and your family because I’ve been there, and I’ve had to watch my family watch me go through this. And that is truly one of the most heartbreaking things I have to remember.

    I think one of the reasons that Schizophrenia isn’t talked about is that it isn’t a ‘sexy’ illness. It’s not one that can be glamorised, and the media can’t point to some hot star and say they have it, then the star goes on to become a spokesperson for the disease and raise money and awareness and so on and so forth. Also another reason is that the illness is still largely misunderstood by many people. Believe it or not, but I’ve had a friend who is also a clinical psychologist tell me that she thought all people with mental illnesses should be on a register, as they were dangerous! I quietly told her my point of view afterwards.

    My point being – however long-winded – that we’re out there, and the only way any of us have made it through this is with the help of our family and friends.

    Your sister is so very lucky to have you in her life, and my peeps and I are so very lucky to have you as a spokesperson for us.

    You go girl!

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    • Eliza

      Hi Chytrid/Jill, thanks for your comment. I obviously don’t know a lot about schizophrenia, because I thought someone with schizophrenia would need to be on medication forever because of psychosis – how did you recover? What was the ‘cure’ for you? And do you still have any symptoms?

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    • La Bella Figura

      Hi Jill I don’t understand how you were able to stop taking your medication? I’ve never met someone who suffers from schizophrenia who was able to stop meds and function. I’m sceptical of your post. What level of schizophrenia did/do you have?

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    • La Bella Figura

      Forgot to add there isn’t a cure for schizophrenia so I’m sceptical of your post. There are many levels of schizophrenia an curious to know what you had?

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      • chytrid

        Hi guys,

        I had adolescent schizophrenia, which is more common than you might think. I was on alot of medication – first melaril, then zyprexa then clozapine (which was horrible) and a few others in between that I’ve forgotten the names of. Finally, because none of the medication seemed to work for me, my psychiatrist tried me on electro-convulsive therapy. Which was very scary at the time, but in the end I believe it was what made me better.

        I was slowly weaned off my medication in my early 20′s and have no need for anything now. I have no symptoms, and so take part in regular research projects for the SRI – my brain is very useful to them!

        In answer to your question about the severity of my illness, well it’s kind of hard to say. It’s not really something you can compare, as it’s an internal illness. I heard voices that told me to do things, which I did, and I couldn’t walk past an open door without freaking out. I was never tied down or restrained, but I was given an injection of some kind of sedative that knocked me out for days.

        I know that I’m not a person that people usually picture when they think mental illness, but I think it’s important for you to realise that there are many levels of this disease and sometimes it can go into a kind of remission, for want of a better word.

        I have hope that one day this will be a curable disease, and that no one has to suffer through it.

        I hope that answers your questions :)

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        • Gee Jen

          Thank you for responding to the questions chytrid/Jill

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  7. Recovery

    There are other approaches to recovering from schizophrenia than the dominant medical model which relies heavily on taking anti-psychotic medication. For those feeling lost and without hope, I encourage you to find out about the work of Rufus May and Pat Deegan. Both have a diagnosis of schizophrenia. A cure may not be possible but recovery is.

    http://rufusmay.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

    http://www.patdeegan.com/

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  8. chef

    This post and many of the comments have resonated with me. My son has schizophrenia, and I have experienced most of the things mentioned below and then some. And he is still only 17. He cannot live at home as he is, frankly, too dangerous. The mental health system is stretched to it’s absolute limits and is woefully inadequate. Next year he will be 18, and so many of his “supports” will be gone. I hold grave fears for his future. This has torn my family apart. I have lost friends who believed I should have kept him at home however hard it was. They didn’t have to sit in a school counsellor’s office with a sobbing 8yo girl who was too afraid to go home, or have police and crisis assessment teams at their house at 2am. He is broken, we are broken, and there is no way out of this abyss. It is a cruel disease.

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    • Coastal Mum

      Understand and feel for you Chef, the same occurred with my brother, he was just too dangerous to have at home and refused medication and would fight with staff from the Unit who came to deliver his injections. It’s heartbreaking…the strain on my parents marriage has been huge and my dad ended up on anti depressants, I think as a result of both the strain and the guilt. People who judge simply do not understand, they have not been there and experienced what you have. I know and remind my parents too that they have done the best they can given the circumstances, as I’m sure you have also. Keep strong xoxoxox

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      • chef

        Thankyou for your kind words, Coastal Mum. It’s a hard road. Best wishes to you and your family on this hideous journey. Kiss your dad for me and tell him that while he may feel so so sad and so horribly defeated and helpless, guilt has no place here. It’s nobody’s fault. It just is what it is. This has been a hard learned lesson for me. xxx

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    • amandarose

      Sometimes you can find some stability. We did. having a supported care living situation is vital. it made such a huge change for us. Richmond Fellowship helped us.
      we had many years of suffering first then many years of stability. The centre he lived in closed down and he has been booted into a flat. Not ideal at all.

      Keep fighting there is services out there- they just take years and lots of fight to get there. also as the years pass the patient grows to accept they are not so well and need medication. Fingers crossed this will happen for you.

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      • chef

        Thankyou Amandarose. I won’t ever stop fighting but I worry I’ll run out of years before I run out of fight. It’s just scary.xx

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    • La Bella Figura

      You are doing the right thing by your son and your family. People who have not gone through this will never completely understand. Your son didn’t ask for this illness and neither did your family. You are doing your best. Please contact the many groups lovely people have posted. I have gone through years of hell with my sister and hope it gets better again too. Much love to you xxx

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  9. Pam

    My family have dealt with my brother’s schIzophrenia since he was a teenager and he is now well into his sixties. My parents always made time to deal with his outbursts and paranoia more then his siblings did. I always seemed to have a brother living a completely different life to the rest of us. He couldn’t deal with jobs or relationships and now is living on centrelink payments and trying to glean any little money that he can out of my elderly father’s small income. I don’t think he has taken regular medication ever and the whole situation is very sad.

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    • KatK

      Sounds like my brother, except now both my parents have passed and I don’t know what to do.

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  10. Jayne

    Thank you for this very insightful piece. My ex partner, who is also the father of my children has schizophrenia. While he manages it quite well, he refuses to take any medication because the drug clozapine killed his brother (clozapine can reduce the body’s white cell count). He was on another anti psychotic but stopped taking that, because it was unhelpful. He was put on a DSP and basically left to it, to manage his condition himself. He cant afford to leave the (filthy)sharehouse he lives in with some family members, and this makes seeing our kids difficult (he basically has to come to my house, which causes problems for me). He refuses to catch public transport and doesnt drive. He also cant work, or do a course because of his limited attention span-so he spends the majority of his time playing online war games.

    It’s extremely frustrating to know how to help him-even whether I even can. I want him to be as functional as possible, as he’s my children’s father and they love him a lot (the feeling is mutual). But he’s not living a very positive life-he refuses to go and find help, and there are no services available it seems to help him.

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  11. Tammi

    All who loved this post should see ‘The Soloist’ with Robert Downey Jr. and Jamie Foxx. Amazing, heart-warming true story of a musician with schizophrenia.

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    • Cleo

      It was brilliant, great movie

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  12. Coastal Mum

    Thanks Dee for sharing. It’s heartening to know there’s light at the end of the tunnel. I have a brother who is also suffering from acute schizophrenia. He is still in the netherwold of being unmedicated, untreated and homeless – all of his own choosing. You cannot force someone into treatment if they aren’t a danger to themselves or anyone else. My parents have had to endure court cases to have him admitted and visits from police & mental health professionals at all hours. They finally made the heartbreaking decision to step away as it seemed like they were fighting an underfunded and underresourced system every single step of the way. So now they and other family see him about occasionally, give him some money and exchange greetings and make on the merry way. Might sound harsh but there’s really not much else at this point we can do.

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  13. Mosquitonet

    I’d like to post a positive experience I’ve had recently in relation to my sister’s care (she also has schizophrenia) that might give people some more hope.
    My sister was considered to be “high functioning” – held down a full-time job, lived independently, managed her owm money etc. Unfortunately she then decided that because we was so well she didn’t need to be on medication, found an incompetent GP who agreed with her, and over a period of time came down off her medication. This resulted in a psychotic episode that involved her hopping on a plane and “moving” to Sydney (without telling anyone) with nothing on her but an eftpos card and her car/house keys. After arriving in Sydney and then going missing for 2 days and nights she was then found by the police thankfully and taking to St Vincent’s.
    My sister spent 5 weeks at St Vincent’s psychiatric and I found the care to be excellent compared to any she had experienced before in South Australia. The nursing staff were caring and compassionate and engaged with our family at every opportunity. When the psychiatrists wanted to release her after 3 weeks I met with them, explained why I thought it was too soon and they LISTENED and agreed to keep her in hospital for another 2 weeks. On her release, they connected her with a case manager who has found her very appropriate accommodation, and engaged her in a program of art classes, cooking classes and assistance to find work. I have been amazed at the level of care she has received and how well the “system” has worked for her on this occasion. If she had stayed in SA my parents would have continued to beat their heads against brick walls (metaphorically speaking) screaming for help.

    On another note, is anyone aware of a support group for siblings? Sounds like a lot of people who have posted here would benefit from one.

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    • mosquitonet

      sorry, few typos above, not sure how to edit, should still make sense hopefully!

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    • Nak

      Australian Relatives and Friends of the Mentally Ill – ARAFMI – might be a good starting point?

      http://www.arafmiaustralia.asn.au/

      They have a lot of info about psychotic illnesses in particular which can be good if you have previously found other organisations focus mainly on depression (not that depression is not important – indeed it’s often co-morbid – but there are different challenges with psychosis). I found the NSW branch extremely helpful when working with clients with schizophrenia. Your state branch should be able to assist with finding relevant support groups as well.

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      • Nak

        Another good organisation has info on support groups including ones specifically for carers in NSW at http://www.sfnsw.org.au/For-Families-and-Carers/FFAC-Support-Groups/default.aspx

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      • chytrid

        ARAFMI were just amazing for my family when we were struggling. Great organisation!

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      • Mosquitonet

        Thanks

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      • KatK

        I couldn’t find anything schizophrenia specific. Is there such a thing as groups to support families where there is schizophrenia?

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        • symphonic48

          Hi KatK I just gave a talk on one such group that is Australia wide called GROW and they have a support group for carers. After their meetings they also stay for coffee and light refreshments. Their main function however is to support those who have a mental illness to live in the community successfully. This is a link to their website http://www.grow.net.au/ Hope you find this useful – good luck!

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    • veruca salt

      I hear you. The mental health system here in South Australia is an utter disgrace.

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  14. oliveblanche

    Oh this post and all the comments have me crying. I wish I could give everyone of you a big hug I can really feel your pain. This is an area which makes me so angry. Our mental health system is a disgrace. The government took huge amounts of money out of the mental health sector by shutting down most mental hospitals and said they were going to put the money back in the community. This was an absolute lie! The government tried to sell deinstitutualisation as a wonderful thing. It is not and I have not found one mental health worker or mentally ill person say that it is. Now there is just no place for them to get adequate care. It breaks my heart. I have major depression and anxiety and chronic illness which leaves me disabled and in pain. I would much rather the physical pain over the mental pain (and I can’t even imagine how it must be for those who have it worse than I do). I’m so lucky that I have a wonderful mother who listens to my sobs and depressive thoughts and anxiety (you have no idea how much this helps). I have said before she is terminal with pancreatic cancer yet she still is there for me no matter what. I also have an amazing GP who can talk me out of really bad episodes and a great psychologist who cares so much. The government is taking more funding from the mental health plan so that you can now only get ten Medicare subsidized counseling sessions a year. That is appalling! My psychologist gets so upset when she has clients who are so Ill and she knows she only will get ten sessions with them because they can’t afford to pay her after that. She often says she would do it for free but she has a family to support too. It’s horrible. I’m going to go back to uni and get my psych masters because I feel so strongly about this. I am praying to get better because I know there are so many people who need help. I don’t understand how our government can allow the mental health care system become so bad. Mental health is one of the most important things we should be investing in. It just breaks my heart. If I can’t stand the amount of temporary emotional pain I get from my situational depression and anxiety I have no idea how others worse off do it. They are brave and amazing people just to keep going every day. I have the utmost respect for people with mental illness no matter what their circumstance. I wish society could see them as people who suffer one of the most horrible illness ever instead of making them feel less than or an “other”. Sorry about the long rant I just feel so passionate about this issue. Xoxoxoxox

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  15. panda.

    I first suspected my brother had a mental illness on the first day of our family holiday this June. He thought my father was calling him names and that the only way to stop it was by killing dad or himself.

    It continued to manifest and suddenly he believed I was also calling him the same names. He threatened me with a metal bin and a toilet bowl cleaner he broke on a sink. I have never been more terrified and broken hearted. I realised that no amount of pleading would make him understand that it wasn’t real. The words he thought he could hear me say were not real. It didn’t matter how many times I begged him to believe me, he just couldn’t understand why I was still lying and betraying him.

    The hardest part was telling my parents my suspicions. We have always treated him differently- He was the ‘special’ one, the quiet one who was always just that little bit different from the rest of us. No one had a clue it was as serious as I had discovered. Mum has been amazing- She has taken him to doctors his whole life because he was such an unhappy child. I can’t imagine how hard it must be. Dad didn’t want to believe me at first. I never thought I would have to tell my parents that I was worried my brother might hurt me, or worse, himself or the rest of my family.

    Five months later he has been prescribed anti psychotics. We haven’t spoken much about it, I think he’s too afraid. I organised the counselors, I encouraged mum to look into psycologists. I have done everything in my power to help him get better. I feel like crying every day because I know that his world will always have challenges, will have struggles and fear.

    I’m so grateful my brother has never touched drugs, has never been admitted, has never actually hurt us. I love him so much and it breaks my heart that this illness will always be with us. I pray that he can just be, without the voices in his head telling him these horrible untruths.

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    • Gee Jen

      Just want to give you a hug panda. sounds like you are really supporting your brother God bless

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  16. anonymouse

    I would like to make the distinction that people HAVE schizophrenia (eg. “My brother has schizophrenia”) they are not ‘schizophrenic’ (“My schizophrenic brother”). This medical-model type jargon sees individuals labelled with a mental illness, and nothing further. As we move towards a better understanding of mental illness, and the people and their families who struggle daily with them, I hope that we can remove such labels in an attempt to see the people for who they are, and their endless potential, not solely for the mental illness they find themselves struggling with.

    My heart goes out to all who have suffered from mental illness, both personally and in their loved ones. The ongoing struggle with chronic mental illness is unparalleled, and yet so minimally understood.

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    • La Bella Figura

      I’ll be blunt. You don’t sound like you have gone through what many people here have posted. The reality is we are discussing the best quality of life, or some semblance of a life that we are lucky to have ourselves. There is no ‘endless possibility of potential’. You will notice most of us disucssing the sadness of having to let this dream go for our scarily intelligent siblings (a common factor in sufferers of schizophrenia). We hope they stay alive. Without families as carers most sufferers would be fucked. I’ve been around many sufferers whose families can’t cope, who don’t visit, who wish they were dead. This is an area seriously under resourced and underfunded. My heart goes out to all the people who have posted their stories and to Dee for being so honest and raw. There is nothing like staying up all night with your sister when she thinks she works for ASIO, people talking to her on the radio, thinks you are a spy, disappears for days, won’t take her medication, threatens to kill you. I’ve lost count. The pressure it puts on a family and where you think you yourself might have a breakdown. For all the insensitive jerks and even friends/ family who just don’t get it. I’m talking about longterm schizophrenia
      sufferers who can’t work, won’t take meds, isolate themselves and the families who have cared for them for YEARS and in most cases we are just praying we can get through the next day or week. I don’t look any further ahead than that anymore. I used to but I know the reality. I pray my sister lives through this and I hope as a family we can get through it. That’s reality.

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      • Recovery

        I’ll be blunt – you don’t sound like you’ve ever suffered the pain of losing touch with reality. I have. Yes I agree it is difficult for family members and mine have also suffered through my mental illness but they will never fully understand the pain I have endured. They have never been locked up in, stripped off their rights and forced to go on mind numbing medication with no hope of a better future. Yes they were there too but they weren’t stuck in it with no way out. Thankfully my family never gave up hope and I have a truly amazing and fulfilling life despite the impacts of psychosis. They held hope for me when I had completely lost it myself. Whilst it may not seem like it, recovery is still possible in the face of on-going symptoms but if the people around you lose hope and lower their expectations it makes it very difficult. There are many of us living with psychotic illnesses who don’t just cope but thrive. Some of us have long histories of illness and can tell many dark tales of treatment and painful symptoms. Please don’t give up hope or perpetuate the myth that people with a psychotic illness don’t have potential. We are humans just like you, we are not walking ‘mental illnesses’.

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        • La Bella Figura

          That’s great Im happy you are getting the help you need. But I’m talking about my sister, not you, who I’m just trying to keep her alive. Families do go through the pain and trauma. Carers are burnt out. I have gone through severe trauma in my life of which is irrelevant to this topic, so I don’t mention it. You are one of the lucky ones whose family is there for you and looks after you. You take your meds. You are functioning. There is a big difference in what I was referring to and you shouldn’t take it so personally. I’m talking about my experience and yes I have suffered too. Families suffer.

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        • La Bella Figura

          And if I had given up on my sister 13 years ago when I was too young to have to deal with her illness, I’m still here now for her and getting her help, don’t say I have ‘given up’ on her. Who is looking after your family of carers? The carers are usually the ones pushed to their limits over many many years too. It works both ways.

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          • La Bella Figura

            And yes it does bother me when I’m talking about a different group of mental illness, life doesn’t always come up roses for some schizophrenic sufferers and that’s what many posts are referring to below (I’m on iPhone). I think you are ‘lucky’ that you are thriving and are better now. I just hope my sister doesn’t die at the moment. She has been very sick for years. There is a difference. You are highly functioning, she is not.

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            • Recovery

              I’m just trying to show a different perspective. Many of the posts about this article are from carers rather than sufferers of mental illness. I’m not denying the pain and difficulty family members and friends also suffer from mental illness – it is something that affects us all. I have no doubt my mental illness has been the greatest challenge my Mother and Father have faced as parents and I feel for your struggle and the desperate situation your sister is in. However recovery doesn’t have to be about functioning or symptoms. There are two different types of recovery in the mental health world. Clinical recovery and psychological recovery. Recovery is not just about being better – I still have symptoms. Under the psychological model it is more about regaining hope, identity and meaning in life with or without symptoms. I acknowledge that not all people find a way to have a meaningful and fulfilling life in spite of their symptoms but I still have hope. I still believe that recovery is possible for everyone regardless of their functioning or symptoms. I hope your sister survives and I hope she finds a way to have a life she finds fulfilling and meaningful. There is also community support out there to take the burden off families. I apologise if I’m telling you about stuff you already know and I’m not sure what State you live in but there are some supported living programs like Phams, HASI etc that are delivered by organisations including Neami, Aftercare, The Schizophrenia Fellowship, PRA, New Horizons…. I also encourage you to read some literature from Pat Deegan who was diagnosed with schizophrenia as a teenager http://www.patdeegan.com/. Anne Deveson whose son suffered from schizophrenia has also written an amazing book about his story ‘Tell Me I’m Here’ and a great novel about resilience. I wish you and your sister the best.

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            • La Bella Figura

              Thanks ‘recovery’ I couldn’t reply as there isn’t a reply button on your last post to me. I understand where you are coming from I’m sorry it’s a very raw area for me. Thanks for information you provided I know them all too well. A friend gave me the book to read and in the end her son dies as a result of schizophrenia. Not such a happy outcome. I just want my sister to live the life she deserves. It’s taken a huge longterm toll on us that will continue for many more years. I just take one day at a time with her now it’s that bad. All the best to you too. I only hope my sister can lead a life like you are able to do too. Much love to you and look after yourself.

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      • Raine

        I appreciate the bluntness of your post. In my experience my family has so many issues that are running simultaneously such as living in a single parent house hold, living in poverty, my mom having a learning disability or dad’s not wanting to be part of our lives.
        My 27 year old sister who has schizophrenia has the added burden of being an African America lesbian who wants to become a transperson from female to male but cannot afford the operation. I can’t help but wonder what part of her sexual identity plays a role in her schizophrenia? I love her so so so much we all love her to death. She had her first mental break in 2009 but stopped taken the medications I think it was Seroquel because she said it made her feel like she had a metal block or a mask on her face and she couldn’t think. Two days ago she had to be admitted involuntarily. The saddest part is this second time around we all saw it coming a mile away. She quit her job , and her relationship with her girlfriend of two years ended and she moved 45 minutes away. Now she’s in the hospital and I cry myself to sleep every night thinking about her.

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  17. anna84

    Thanks for this post, Dee. I can relate as I am in a similar situation but I”ll get to that. I have this flashback to around 15 years ago when my Grandparents had a beach house down at Mornington (an hour outside Melb) and our elderly next-door neighbour there was schizophrenic. She used to tell my Grandma that she heard my Grandpa on the radio plotting to kill her. I remember hearing my family talk about this woman….they threw around words ‘crazy’ and ‘nutter’, they rolled their eyes and had a bit of a laugh about her. I’m not saying it’s right that they did this, they just didn’t understand. None of us had ever dealt with mental illness before. At the time, my brother was a bright, happy, highly intelligent 8-year-old with what seemed like a great future ahead of him. When I think back to the way we spoke about that schizophrenic woman all those years ago, and remember how my mother seemed quite judgemental, I realise how none of us would’ve ever guessed that my little brother would be inflicted with the very same illness and that it would effect our lives every day….
    My brother was a very ‘normal’ child. He did well at school, he had a lot of friends, he was good at sport. He wanted to be a lawyer when he grew up. When he hit his teens, however, things began to change. He started suffering from depression. He hung out with the wrong crowd, he took drugs, he would go missing for days on end, and he was arrested. Our whole family started to become extremely worried about him. He thought about dropping out of high school but Mum convinced him to finish Year 12 and he did. He says today that he is so grateful that he managed to get through. He started university several times but dropped out and he has spent the last 6 years drifting from one part time job to the next, with long bouts of unemployment in between. He was diagnosed with schizophrenia after a psychotic episode sent him into hospital 2 years ago. I was living overseas at the time but I remember Mum calling to tell me about it and how worried she was.
    These days there are lots of ups and downs. Some days he is great, others, not so great. Sometimes I will see him and we will have a very ‘normal’ conversation, other times I won’t be able to follow his train of thought and he’ll seem delusional. Sometimes he will be so caught up in his own head that he will barely speak to anyone at all for long periods of time.
    Thanks to those who have mentioned about positive and negative symptoms of schizophrenia. I think it’s been very difficult for our family to realise that he will never be able to function in everyday life like a ‘normal’ person, that it will always be more difficult for him. We used to have dreams of him graduating from university and becoming a lawyer. Now we just hope he finds some form of employment and stability in his life. He admits that he could never handle a regular 9 to 5 job and will probably only be able to handle part-time work.
    I read this quote below – “You know, sometimes I’ve found myself wishing my brother had cancer instead, because then he would either be cured or die. Mental illness goes on and on and on, and it never lets go.” I totally understand this, as harsh as it sounds. I find myself wishing this regularly.
    A lot of my friends are very close to their siblings. People often mention to me that I don’t talk much about my brother, some acquaintances don’t even know that I have a brother. Sometimes I don’t know what to say. People will ask what he’s doing and I’ll have to explain. I don’t want them to judge something they don’t understand and in a way maybe I am trying to protect him. Protect him from the judgement of others who DON”T understand.
    I comment on here quite often but this is by far the most I’ve opened up. I decided not to be anonymous so people would know that this is my story. Thanks again Dee for sharing and forcing me to write about a topic that I don’t often open up about but one that is very close to my heart.
    All the love to your sister and my brother – I hope they find the happiness they deserve xx

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    • La Bella Figura

      Anna there is so much I can relate to in your post. I hope things get better all round. I can’t remember crying so much reading all the posts with siblings who have schizophrenia and how many similiarities there are within the stories. It makes me feel less alone.

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      • anna84

        La Bella Figura – thanks for your support. I read your post below and could totally relate to it as well. It sounds like our situations are very similar although my brother has taken drugs which has made his situation worse than it could’ve been. You mentioned that your sister says she just suffers from “stress”, well, a few weeks ago my brother was claiming the exact same thing!! He said it was all just ‘life stress’ and that mental illness was a conspiracy made up by psychiatrists to make money. I was starting to get so frustrated at him but I have to realise that it’s just the illness talking. When I saw him last night he had obviously had another talk to his psychiatrist because he was on a totally different track, claiming that he is schizophrenic and is going to stay on his medication (thank GOD and let’s hope he doesn’t go off it again).
        It makes me sad when I think of the little boy he used to be and how close we were….I often wonder what kind of person he would be if he didn’t have this illness. Schizphrenia is a monster that destroys people and makes them a shell of their former self.

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        • La Bella Figura

          Thanks Anna, I completely understand. I just want to add, even without taking drugs your brother would most probably have developed schizophrenia It’s mostly biological and sits dormant until there is a ‘trigger’ which could be a number of thing ie drugs, a traumatic event, longterm high anxiety/stress and usually starts in late teens or late twenties. I sometimes think what if I have it and it develops later? What if I pass this onto my children? My father’s side has a long history of mental illness and I see it as genetic and a trigger in my sister’s case. My family was in denial for so long and that was one of the most difficult things not having the power or voice until I was older. When I had her committed it was one of the worst experiences of my life (and I’ve gone through some tough experiences). But you always think this is awful but the best place for her to get help. It’s funny how they are so sick yet recognize the stigma attached. My sister on her good days will admit she has schizophrenia and has to take her meds. On bad days she’s fine, everyone else is wrong, and it’s just stress. There are so many variations of the illness. I barely recognize her personality now as she is in hospital again. It’s so hard not to compare her when she was healthy. It’s like someone has died in a way isn’t it? It makes things easier in a way if you try to think it’s like they were in a act crash and are disabled. There was pre and post car crash and you can never be that person again and accept them. My dad used to say she was just lazy, wasn’t sick, we were sick, if she got a job it would be fine, if she met someone she would be fine, threaten her…list goes on. But now that he has actually seen her being put into hospital again (when they ‘come and get you’ which is a traumatic experience in itself) and he visits her every day and talks about her I’ve noticed a change for the better in his acceptance too. He asked me the other day after we visited her if she will ever get rid of schizophrenia and I said no and he cried. My mum has had it very tough looking after her the most and refuses to go to a support group. I’m her support group and it’s unfair that my parents will realistically look after her until they die. I wish you and your brother all the best and you just try to do your best, he will hopefully ‘level out’ on his meds if he keeps taking them every day and will be morestable in a few months. My sister is still saying she is fine after a month and doesn’t need meds and I say “so why do you think they won’t let you leave hospital?”. If her meds hadn’t been reduced by a doctor she barely saw andanipulated the system to get her meds reduced, she wouldn’t be in hospital and would be holding down a job and be functioning. I’ve had thoughts of going to see that doctor and screaming at him what he’s done to our family again. I also worry sick what will happen to her. I worry every day and I’ve had some friends say “it’s not your problem”. But then they have a family member who has cancer and that’s treated differently? Mental illness is so hard to treat an everyone reacts differently to meds. I hope your brother keeps taking his meds as there are so many benefits for him. I always say, it’s like if you had a bad headache and needed to go and do stuff, you take a tablet so you can feel better and get on with it right? If you had cancer you would have treatment right? How is this any different? To this day she has never been able to give me a good reason. You need to do the tough love when they make excuses, when they try to manipulate you, when they start the ‘crazy talk’ and cut that talk off otherwise they will go on with that train of thought ie ” no, I don’t work for ASIO I work for x and you know that ok” and most of the time it works. It’s fkg draining I understand but when your brother gets a bit better you will see glimpses more and more of the brother you know and that to me is worth it. I just take baby steps now and try to keep my own sanity. All the best and huge hugs xxx

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          • anna84

            La Bella Figura – I think denial seems to be a big part of the illness. Like your sister, my brother alternates between admitting that he is sick and taking his meds and saying that there is nothing wrong with him and everyone else is at fault. It’s exhausting. Last week he said he was going to stop taking his medication because all he was suffering was ‘life stress’. I told him this was a bad idea and he snapped at me and said I didn’t want what was best for him and he always felt that I didn’t like him (wtf). However, after a long discussion with his psychiatrist, he has changed tack. Last night, he admitted he has schizophrenia and that he will continue to take his meds. He even apologised for snapping at me. Thank God things are stable for now….
            Mental illness also runs very strongly throughout my father’s family so wer’e in the same boat there. I agree with you that there was a genetic predisposition there that might’ve been triggered by drugs in his case but also could’ve been triggered by something else in a different situation. I am 27 and have never suffered from any kind of mental illness, in fact, I’ve always been a pretty happy, well-balanced person who deals with stressful situations reasonably well (comes from my mother’s side for sure, not Dad’s). I think by 27 if I was prone to mental illness, it would’ve happened by now as it’s too late in life to develop something out of the blue….BUT despite this I still worry. Even though I don’t show symptoms of mental illness I could easily carry the gene which could be passed onto my children (I don’t have any yet). Due to this I am unsure if I want children. I’m also scared that I could develop post-natal depression due to our family’s tendency for mental illness. THis thought terrifies me.
            You’re right about it being kinda like a death…you realise that the person you used to know will probably never come back and it’s very sad. However, there are definitely days (like yesterday) where I see glimpses of his REAL true self without the illness. I think ‘oh yeah, that’s James coming through, that’s the real him, they’re the kinda things he used to say….’ Sometimes even seeing glimpses like this is enough to make me feel happy. It may not be much but at least it’s something. I hope you have these glimpses with your sister on her good days too, makes you realise the person she is deep down without the illness talking. I know my brother is a good loving person deep down and I am sure your sister is the same xx

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            • La Bella Figura

              You are such a lovely sister. I took a break from MM yesterday I felt so completely raw reading these posts from both sides. My heart goes out to
              you. Your brother is going to be ok acceptance is the first step and he is on a good path now. Please look after yourself too xxx

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          • KatK

            La Bella Figura – I can totally relate to the fear of passing it on to children. I have a daughter and I am petrified I might have given her this illness. My father suffered from mental illness too and I’ve read that it is genetic. Sometimes I think that maybe I shouldn’t breed.

            And I can totally relate to the feeling that they died. This year I’ve grieved my mother’s passing and realised I also lost my brother long time ago to this illness and my father also passed 12 years ago. So I feel so alone now, as though all my family have now passed and I am the only one left.

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            • melinka

              As can I. I’m finding it very, very hard to read these posts as my Mum had schizophrenia (the characteristics of which changed over time and with age), and unfortunately, she wasn’t ‘highly functioning’. God no. If not for my Dad and her sister, she probably would have ended up on the streets. And she never admitted to having any kind of illness, despite frequent psychotic episodes, paranoia, mania, the list goes on. Who can blame her though, it robbed her of a normal life and she was smart enough to know that she was missing out on so much that the rest of us take for granted.

              Whew. Anyway, while I would love to have kids, I don’t think I can bring myself to risk it. Thankfully I haven’t inherited Mum’s illness but I couldn’t bear to pass that on to my child.

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        • KatK

          My brother also took drugs, but I think often people with schizophrenia take drugs because something isn’t right. As in the illness precedes the drugs.

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    • KatK

      anna – I know what you mean about seeing other people close to their siblings. In fact what I find really hard about losing my father and my mother is that I also lost my brother years ago to this illness. I feel so utterly alone with no other siblings. I really do feel like they all died and the brother I now have is not the same at all. We were so close growing up and I don’t think I will ever have that again. I miss him so much. My grief is huge.

      And yes I would give anything just to see him stable, independent and content.

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  18. KatK

    Can anyone here help me? I want to know how can I help my brother who has schizophrenia? My mother took care of him for all of his adult life. He is 33 now and she died in February. And I have no idea how to help him. He asks me for money and I am so worried he will end up homeless. He is living in my mother’s house still (which is now also half mine) but he keeps not paying bills. I’ve got a mortgage and my own family and I can’t have him live with us. He says he wants to find a job now and look after himself, but I know he’s petrified and I don’t know if he will find a job. I keep thinking he’d be better off on the disability pension instead of the newstart where they are pushing him to find work, but he doesn’t want to be classed as unable to work again. He doesn’t want to take medications because they make him feel awful in different ways. I am so scared for him and that I might lose him and that he won’t be able to ever support himself and that I will have to take care of him. I just can’t take care of him the way my mother did (pay his bills, give him money, cook his dinner and listen to him talk on and on and on). He does text me 20 times a day. I know he must be so lonely but it is so hard for me to see him like he is. I still remember the brother I grew up with and I miss him so much, as well as our parents who have both died. And now there’s just him and me left and I have a new family to think of. I also struggle with anxiety and depression and just can’t handle his illness like maybe some other more stable siblings might be able to. But I do want to help and I am at a loss as to what to do.

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    • anna84

      KatK – I’m sorry to hear about your brother. My mother also looks after my schizophrenic brother; pays the bills, cooks for him, listens to him etc. I often worry how he will survive after my parents die. I hope this isn’t for a long time but it is inevitable that it’ll happen one day. I hope that by the time it does happen he has more stability in his life. I also worry that I will be the one that has to look after him.
      I think he should be on the disability pension rather than the Newstart allowance as ther’s less pressure to find work. My brother is on this. Does he see a psychiatrist? He should be seeing someone who can help him out with these issues. Also maybe it’s a good idea for you to see a psychiatrist too to help you deal with him and get some professional advice about what is the best way to help your brother.
      I hope it works out for you guys, so sorry to hear about your situation, it could so easily be me xx

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      • KatK

        Hi anna,

        I’ve worried most of my adult life about what would happen to my brother when my parents passed and worried I would have to look after him the way my mother did. And I hoped he would become functional before she passed. And I lost that hope a long time ago, after years and years and years of the same. I hope your brother doesn’t end up like mine. And to be honest I really don’t think my mother looking after him helped at all. I think it made it all worse. And when I tried to talk to her about it she wouldn’t listen to me. She felt like it was her fault somehow and she was determined to make it up to him and of course didn’t want to lose him.

        I am seeing a psychologist for myself and I am so glad I do have that support.

        I hope things get better for your brother. xx

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    • JM

      Hi KatK,

      I’m a Psychiatrist and have a few suggestions.

      Firstly, who is his treating team (does he have one?). If so, find out and contact them. Obviously ask your brother first. If he doesn’t give permission, technically you can still contact them and talk with them about your concerns without them actually giving information to you. Thus, preserving confidentiality. I think most treating clinicians are thrilled to hear about people who are actually interested in their patients. He might have a case manager – ask them how you can help and support your brother.

      Talk with your brother about your concerns. He might be feeling as worried and nervous as you are about how he can manage at home. Then perhaps you could work on a solution together.

      Also, in my state at least, there are provisions under the Guardianship Act that a person’s financial/administrative affairs can be placed under Guardianship whilst he may still maintain lifestyle autonomy. That is, someone else can handle the money side and pay all his bills but he can still determine where he wants to live. This is a process that requires some medical input to organise (either GP or Psychiatrist) but may take some of the pressure off you.

      The medication issue is another one entirely. Again, talk to his treating team about options such as Webster packs to assist in keeping track of medication compliance. There are injectable forms of antipsychotic medication that can be prescribed but this is a delicate issue and is usually only used when a patient has a history of non-adherence to treatment with serious consequences (ie. repeated relapses and admissions). However, there are also some patients that like the idea of an injectable medication for the reason that it does keep them well without them having to remember to take their meds.

      The situation you are in is becoming more common as elderly carers pass away. However, the fact that you are already so concerned about your brother puts him way ahead of so many others. You are a wonderful sister and a great support already. All the best.

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      • La Bella Figura

        Thanks JM

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      • KatK

        Thanks so much JM for your reply.

        The thing is my brother does not have a treating team nor a case worker nor a psychiatrist. So there is no one managing treatment or care for my brother with whom I could speak. If there was I would have definitely attempted to contact them. Which is why I am at such a loss as to what to do, because I cannot force my brother to see anyone.

        I did talk to him and told him how scared I am and said I think he should go see a psychiatrist again and be reassessed and he replied with “No way, no how, I’m not going back on meds”.

        After mum died I let my brother stay with me so he wouldn’t be alone at home. He seemed ok (well except for the grief). Then one morning (the day before my mum’s funeral) he said he was going for a walk. Hours and hours and hours passed. Eventually he called me and he said “I was wondering what time you are going to visit mum in hospital”. She was dead and he believed she was alive. I managed to convince him to come back to my house and when he arrived I could tell he was on drugs. He fell asleep and I couldn’t wake him and I thought “this is it, I’m about to lose my brother”. I called an ambulance. They managed to wake him (which wasn’t an easy feat) and took him to hospital. I was so relieved because I thought he would be admitted and looked after. A couple of hours later a psychiatrist rang me to say that they couldn’t admit him without his permission and wanted me to pick him up. So taking a large amount of drugs and almost overdosing obviously wasn’t a criteria for admission. And in fact when I pointed this out to the psychiatrist, he told me that it happens all the time and there’s nothing they can do and that schizophrenics die all the time from overdoses so I should prepare myself. Nice. Great help there.

        So I can’t get him admitted. I can’t get him to see anyone. And I can’t get him to take his meds.

        And it’s obvious that he’s not always in touch with reality with some of the phone calls I get from him. He can’t manage his funds. He can’t get a job. He’s all on his own at home doing who knows what. And I am at a total loss of what I can do. :(

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    • E

      KatK where does your brother live? If he is on Newstart he should be linked to a Disability Employment Service (DES) like New Horizons (Centrelink refer to DES but he can refer himself directly, or you can assist) who can help him with a lot of those things by linking him in with other services (like Personal Helpers and Mentors (PHaMS) and assisting him to find employment, or suitable training or apply for DSP: whichever he wants. New Horizons will help him make goals & work towards them. Being on DSP doesn’t mean he can’t work, he can still volunteer to jobseek with DES if he chooses and can work a certain amount of hours without impacting his benefits.

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      • KatK

        Thanks E. I will look into it. We are in Melbourne.

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    • Jodes

      Anna, I think you might have to get yourself declared his legal guardian, so that the bills etc are sent to you, since he can’t manage them on his own. Go talk to ARAFMI, they will have information (and the Carers Association in your state, where you can also get counselling/support).

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  19. cosmos42

    My sister suffers from Schizophrenia, but will not acknowledge her illness to anyone, only saying “in my circumstances” to avoid making any decisions or give an opinion. I am her only relative and yet I have no access to her case worker, a situation which worries me as my sister is quite alone with no family or friends. A tenuous attachment to the church is all, but she doesnt communicate with anyone there. As she never picks up the phone I have to threaten to call the police to check up on her otherwise she wouldnt be in touch with me. She was a good scholar and achieved much academically, but now her life is very closed and she is no longer the person she once was. A great sadness and I am unable to help.

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    • La Bella Figura

      So much I can relate to in your post…

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  20. Mediwha

    Take THAT, doctor-patient confidentiality!!

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  21. amandarose

    I also have schizophrenic siblings. It certainly is a harsh card to draw in life.
    One brother is so unwell he functions best in a supported care environment. One where he takes his pills, gets help with money,food and cleaning and a social environment. he had that for 20 years but they closed all those nice places down in Tasmania and booted him into a flat alone in the dodgy housing flats. Now he sleeps I. Urinated sheets( the medicines make him wet the bed) and drool soaked pillows in filth. Lovely. An after 10 years without a hospital admission he was back in 2 weeks after the booted in back into the world. Not very nice way to treat vulnerable people.
    I would have him at home but last visit he was a bit violent and scary and not to mention a pedophile it really isn’t an option. I have a young girl and they will not be meeting I assure you.
    despite his flaws he is my brother and our mum is dead so I do feel a moral obligation to look out for him

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    • whatahooha

      holy shit. good luck!! Hope something works out for you

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  22. Kate

    My mum has schizophrenia and has had it since she was 19. She spent her twenties in and out of the old psych hospitals.

    Mum’s mental illness has had such a pervasive impact on my life – symbolized by the cloth nappy my dad found in a box, stamped with ‘larundal’. It brought him to tears.

    I think it’s important for ppl to learn more about the ‘positive’ and ‘negative’ symptoms of mental illness – mum hasn’t experienced any positive psychotic symptoms for years now but her life is still so so tough. She struggles to put herself in other ppl’s shoes which can be really misconstrued. She gets so paralyzed by anxiety and so so overwhelmed with depression that she can be crushed by a news story, by events occurring in the life of a friend of a friend of a friend…

    I can’t imagine how terrifying her twenties must have been for her and despite my constant frustrations I know she must be incredibly strong to continue her battle against something so overwhelming and insidious, day in and day out.

    We need a better mental health care system, better understanding, better funding and fingers crossed major scientific advances. Schizophrenia is truly horrible and I hope my beautiful mum can be free of it some day

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  23. Lucyloo

    I loved reading this. I don’t have anyone close to me with a MI – as far as I know, but I loved reading about essentially, the ties that bind you, Dee. What shines through is your love for your sister; that you have, and always will be there for her (despite how annoying that may be at times); and that you ‘accept’ her. I have 2 sisters and if such a sad, horrific thing should ever befell them, I hope and pray I have the chance to be the sister to them that you are are for yours.

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  24. La Bella Figura

    My sister has been sick with schizophrenia for years. It has taken an unbelievable toll on everyone involved. She won’t take her medicine and is in hospital again. Sometimes I want to just fkg scream at her in frustration. Without us she has noone. It will never stop and I can see my sister dying before her time or ending up on the street. She has barely worked in over 10 years, has relapsed twice, thinks she’s fine and suffers ‘stress’ not schizophrenia. It’s taken a huge toll on my parents and myself. It’s taken a huge toll on my relationships and friendships. I worry sick how she will ever look after herself. I also wish she had something physical and treatable with an operation. It’s been a long and rocky road for all of us, especially my beautiful sister she is a shell of her former self. My family have started talking more about it now but there is a huge stigma attached. My father won’t admit that maybe it’s part genetic considering te mental illness that clearly runs through his side of the family. I worry sick what will happen to her.

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    • La Bella Figura

      Dee forgot to thank you (through tears) tonight for discussing schizophrenia in such an open post. It’s rare for me to be able to open up about it and I know you completely understand the toll and fear. Love your media work too. You’re a lovely, smart woman.

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      • dee madigan

        Thank you. And I hope it works out ok with your sister. I understand your frustration. :)

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        • La Bella Figura

          Thanks Dee. No matter how angry or upset I feel, the bloody frustration, I try to remember “this could easily have been me”. My sister was one of my best friends and was a beautiful person inside and out. Just stunning and so intelligent. Scary smart. Never took drugs. To cope I try to think it’s still her,
          but she is sick, it’s the illness and it’s not her fault. This sickness creates a different world/reality for her and meds even when taken as required can only do so much. Then it’s working out which meds will work. I shudder at the thought of her meds being reduced as that’s what fkd her up this last year again. I know you understand and
          again thank you for your post. It reminds me of why I come back to MM.

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    • KatK

      My brother has schizophrenia and like you I keep thinking he will die before his time. He is such a stress for me and I have no idea how to help him. Our father died 12 years ago and our mother took care of him from the age of 20 till last year (age 32) then she got very sick and died in Febraury this year. Now on top of the grief I have at losing my mother I have my brother turning up on my doorstep asking for money, seemingly unable to manage money or himself. He’s talking about getting a job now to support himself, but he hasn’t worked for years. I don’t know how that will suddenly change. I would love to see him functioning on his own but I don’t know if that’s possible. And I just can’t take care of him the way our mother did (pay all his bills, cook his meals, drive him around, listen to him (he craps on and on and on and on and on) and give him money). I have my own family to think of. I feel so utterly alone in this and I have absolutely no idea what to do to help him. I am petrified that he will end up homeless or dead. I feel like such a terrible sister, but I just don’t have the energy to support him like Dee sounds like she does. :(

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      • La Bella Figura

        You will be ok. I promise. I don’t know where you are located, but in Sydney there is a schizophrenia help group for carers and schizophrenic sufferers. They are located all over Sydney at different times. The st George mental health unit at kogarah also has a helpline for advice and they have assessors who come out to the home to assess and check medication and provid recommendations. Worst case scenario is hospital (which is good but you know what I mean) or seriously looking into care for him. Your partner needs to know exactly what is going on, don’t hide how you are feeling. I had to commit my sister years ago and have spent the last year convincing my family she needed help as he is extremely intelligent (as most sufferers are) and highly manipulative or family, doctors and they shop around for doctors and tend to mix mess with over the counter drugs and it all goes to shit. So, I highly recommend you talk to someone and go from there. I can’t even describe the years of hell we have gone through. There were always signs and I even remember being little and knowing something just wasn’t right. I have a huge regret that I was powerless to get her help and my family thought that “things would get better”. Big mistake. The longer you leave it the worse it gets. My sister was in such a great place and had a job and then a fkg arsehole doctor reduced her medication and it screwed her up where she chnahes for the worse and did a lot of awful things until we had to get her hospital help again. Please look after yourself, there are good people at these places I mentioned who will honestly help you and recommend possible solutions. I know how much you love your brother and unless you have gone through it as a sibling/family and my God, my family made so many mistakes, people just don’t get it. There is NOTHING you can say to me that I haven’t seen or dealt with with and I completely understand the place you are in. Please please please google the contacts or find them close to you as once you have the information you will feel better and there is only so much you can do too.

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        • KatK

          I’m in Melbourne. So I don’t know if there are support groups here for families. How did you find out about the ones in Sydney?

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          • symphonic48

            KatK have posted previously as you are in Melbourne there is many GROW group meetings happening across Melbourne a couple of days a week both in the day and evening. One group they run is specifically for carer of those with a mental illness. http://www.grow.net.au/ I hope you may find this information may be of some benefit to you. Know one should be alone to deal with this. Good luck!

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      • La Bella Figura

        On iPhone too tired to edit but I know you get it :)

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  25. bowerbird

    Dee, I think this may be a very important thing you have done here, and I can’t imagine it was easy. Thankyou.

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  26. Anonymous

    After getting the chance to gain a small insight into the experience of people with schizophrenia, I remember thinking what an amazing gift it is that I can just sit outside with a cup of tea and enjoy the sunshine when I have the chance.

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  27. kateharris

    I always get a sense of mixed when I read these kinds of articles as well as the comments below. I suffer from a mental illness and articles such as this are always a reminder that I am not alone which does provide some relief. On the other hand there are always comments within them and in response them (I’m not going to name and shame) that show not all Australians show an understanding of the everyday challenges involved in living with a mental illness.

    In my workplace, only one person knows of my condition. Others are aware that I have medical issues because I take a lot of sick days but these are assumed to be physical rather than mental. Recently a colleague of mine resigned because she was having difficulty managing her manic depression. It was very challenging for me following this to hear conversations in the lunch room calling her amongst other things, ‘crazy, lunatic, nutjob, insane, weirdo.’ It was also difficult to hear people talk as it it was a failure as a human that ‘she was so nuts she can’t even hold a job.’

    If just one person gains a better understanding of schizophrenia from this article or interview, then it has done its job.

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  28. Claire - Matching Pegs

    I have written before on this site about the fact that my twin brother has schizophrenia.

    I believe that the terrible state (neglect) of the mental health system will only improve if we tell our stories, to the people out there that are lucky enough to have never dealt with it. We ALL need to demand a better system from our politicians.

    For that reason, I thank you Dee for writing about you and your sister’s story.

    One of your sentences really stood out for me…

    “It’s the behaviour of someone who essentially lost the confidence to believe she could manage in a more mainstream world, and actually seems pretty content in the world she now lives.”

    There are a couple of thoughts I have in response to this.

    Firstly, if the whole experience has taught my family anything, it is that “success” in life looks a whole lot different to any family that contains Mental Illness. My family moved from expecting my very bright brother to go to university and have a rewarding career, to just hoping that he could find any kind of stability and happiness he could get.

    The fact that your sister is somewhat content with her life, and has a stable relationship is a MAJOR achievement, even if her life does not look like anyone elses definition of success.

    Also, the thought that immediately sprang to mind when I read that sentence is, that many people do not understand the difference between “positive” and “negative” symptoms, and it is possible that they have never been explained to you.

    “Positive” symptoms are the ones we readily associate with schizophrenia – hearing voices, seeing things, being delusional, paranoid, obsession with religious ideas etc. These are the symptoms that are altered by the right medication.

    “Negative” symptoms are things like the inability to handle even low levels of stress and the bewildering failure to get organised in any way, plan for the future, manage money, etc. These symptoms are NOT usually altered by the right drugs. That is why they are confusingly called “negative” symptoms.

    In other words, my understanding is that, even when people with Schizophrenia are really “well” they DO have trouble fitting into the mainstream because it IS harder for them to “get their sh*t together”. It is probable that your sister can not manage many components of the mainstream world, and never will.

    My brother is, by all accounts a pretty clever programmer, especially when you consider that he is entirely self taught. He attempted to complete year 12 three separate times, but just could not handle the pressure. He has had a number of short contract jobs over the years, when people who have known of his limitations have given him work. He just can not deal with; office politics, the 9 to 5 type of day, wearing a suit or being in charge of other people. If he can work on a project from home, over a period of time, with a somewhat flexible delivery date, then he does OK. Sadly, these projects almost never come along.

    My brother is also very frustrating in that he will not really consider other kinds of jobs, but I think it really IS very stressful for him to consider turning up on time somewhere on a regular basis. I think it does freak him out to go outside his comfort zone, and the fact that no one has ever offered him help to find suitable work is part of the problem.

    All the system has ever really offered my brother is medication and extremely limited and sub-standard medical care (not sub-standard staff – just an incredibly under-resourced system that has regularly turned him away, or tossed him out before he was well enough to cope).

    I can vividly picture the Larundel that you accurately describe – almost 20 years ago I was visiting my brother there regularly (including his first admission at Christmas time, when we found ourselves eating Christmas pudding with our hands, – no implements allowed – out of an icecream container in the courtyard of the locked ward on Christmas day).

    If your sister has avoided hospital for a number of years, you may be shocked to hear me say that during my brother’s last terrible admission, at a large city hospital, I actively longed for the days of Larundel, amongst the peaceful gum trees. The newer wards may look a little more modern, but the care is much worst, (funding has been that much more eroded) and the experiment of combining Mental health wards with large physical health hospitals is pretty problematic in my opinion (expecting delusional people to sit around and wait in general emergency departments for 8 hours is pretty crazy – and yes this did happen with my brother on several occasions, and unsurprisingly, he often could not handle the noise and drama, and he would walk.)

    I think what my brother needs most in his life is to feel like he has a purpose – to feel like he can contribute. You are right, Schizophrenia is still very much misunderstood and more stigmatised then many of the other mental illnesses we are more used to reading about.

    Each time we tell stories and humanise Schizophrenia, we hopefully reduce the stigma a little, so thank you. Reading your story, I feel solidarity and I am grateful.

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    • Eternal Caterpillar

      Thank you Claire, you and Dee have both written superbly about this. xx

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      • La Bella Figura

        Thanks for your post. I feel less alone too.

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    • JM

      I am really touched reading your entry…your brother is lucky to have such a sister who understands the realities of living with a mental health condition. Thank you.

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    • sometimeskaren

      I’m a little way into a psychology degree and your story here is just so valuable to read. Thank you for sharing it. I’m not sure where my studies will take me but I’ll endeavour to honour it (and learn from so many stories like it) in the years ahead.

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    • Jo

      Thank you Claire – your post has brought me to tears. I imagine it must be hard to share a story of such a personal nature but you ave provided a very valuable insight into this illness and ‘the system’, as has Dee.

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    • Anonymous

      Thankyou for this incredibly heartfelt post. I agree the mental health system is severly lacking and it is something that is really scary to me personally as I have severe depression & anxiety. I would love to hear how you think the system could be improved. How do you think it could be better?

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      • Claire - Matching Pegs

        For a start the system definitely needs more beds in the acute wards. People are being turned away and some of those people are dying, or falling afoul of the law, because they can not get care.

        A lot of the promised money from the government has been slated for centres that concentrate on Youth, which is fine, but there are several generations of people out there that have fallen through the cracks for decades. They need more funding too, not just the youth.

        I also think that appropriate housing needs heaps of funding, so that there are more living options available with all kinds of levels of assistance. My brother has never had any kind of assisted living offered to him.

        I think that people need access to care other than acute care as well. There should be resources that teach basic life skills – and strategies to cope, for people who we know have difficulty with planning and budgeting. There should be more availability of cognitive behavioral therapy – another thing my brother has never been offered.

        I also think that people need actual counseling, for the the trauma they have usually been through when they have been acutely unwell, and to deal with the fallout that it has on their lives.

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    • KatK

      Thanks so much Claire for sharing your story. My brother also has schizophrenia and the sentence “It’s the behaviour of someone who essentially lost the confidence to believe she could manage in a more mainstream world, and actually seems pretty content in the world she now lives.” also resounded with me.

      I would give anything to have my brother somewhat content and stable and you are right I think in this situation that would be a major achievement. I am just not sure how he can get there or how I can help him to get there.

      I like when you say “I think what my brother needs most in his life is to feel like he has a purpose – to feel like he can contribute.” because I think my brother is the same. He has been pushed and pushed by Centrelink to get a job and he has studied and is now trying to find a job, but I know it scares him beyond belief to actually get a job, yet at the same time he wants to feel like he is contributing.

      Can I ask about your brother’s living arrangements? And do family support him in his living arrangements or financially?

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      • Claire - Matching Pegs

        KatK,

        My brother is on a disability pension, which he has been on since his last psychosis, (which lasted almost a year) 2 years ago. He is very well at the moment, he is on the right drug for him, and as long as the doctor does not drop the dosage again, I believe that he can stay relatively stable. He is very good at taking his medication, and does his best to try and stay well. When he was previously on medication that wasn’t quite good enough, he was always “non-compliant” which I think has more to do with the medication being not right for him, rather than him being difficult. I suspect that many people who are “non-compliant” are actually on medication that is not quite working when they are stressed – and dropping their medication is the first sign that they are becoming unwell, rather than a desire to be difficult.
        So, he is relatively well, but that is the thing – it is all relative.

        My brother has no skills to manage his money – he get extra “top ups” from my parents all the time. It is not because he is that extravagant either – he just has shit life skills, and can’t plan out the spending of his money at all.

        At the moment he lives with his girlfriend (who is lovely but also fragile) in her commission housing flat. When he is not with her (they break up regularly) he has lived in share houses, usually with questionable hygeine, but he really wants to live more independently than he would be if he lived with my parents. He is pretty impossible to live with even when he is “well” – i don’t think they could handle it either.

        My parents have set up their wills so that when they pass away, their money will be in trust, to care for my brother, and my sister and I will manage it, but no amount of money seems enough, unless someone is spending it carefully.

        I would love for my brother to have some kind of assisted living, but I think the best I can hope for is to one day buy him a flat and pay his bills for him and probably drop in regularly to help him clean it – if we can stretch Mum and Dad’s money that way.

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  29. hannahfromsa

    Thank you Dee. Beautifully written post

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    • La Bella Figura

      Is he on newstart? He needs to be on sickness benefits from centrelink not newstart allowance. I’m so angry with centrelink! His doctor needs to provide ‘time out’ saying he can’t work. Centrelink will leave him alone. Please look into support groups/help I mention above and the post from the psychiatrist.

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  30. Nataly Bovopoulos

    Dee this is a compellingly fresh and honest account of what it is like to be a sibling, no less of someone with a mental illness, and a chronic one at that. You communicated so well what it’s like to love, and be annoyed, and be grateful for her. Each experience of mental illness and a person’s recovery comes with it’s strengths, weaknesses and unexpected gains. Stories around chronic mental illnesses like schizophrenia are so rarely told, and the ones that are told in the media (like DID in the United States of Tara) either seem to me to be utterly unrealistic that a person would function so well, or are filled with despair. You told it somewhere in the middle, which isn’t as sensational, because well that’s life. The only issue I have is that you could have made your point that literacy around schizophrenia is low, without criticising other mental illnesses and subsequently (probably unintentionally) the people who experience those illnesses. It’s up to all of us to give all people with a mental illness the respect and dignity they deserve. Cheers.

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  31. JC

    Each person and each illness is different and I think Dee has every right to speak of her own experience. My heart extends to the person with the illness but I also know too of the experience of being a family member and for me (not everyone else) it was hell, distressing, frightening and I am glad it is over. I can now breathe again and I am thankful for that.

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  32. Sparky

    This is so lovely to read. I know and work with people with many and varied mental illnesses. You articulate what schizophrenia is like from the close outsider’s point of view so well.

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  33. Kylie L

    Great, brave, real stuff Dee. Like many of the commenters here I have a close relative with a mental illness, and f*ck, it takes such a toll on everyone involved. You know, sometimes I’ve found myself wishing my brother had cancer instead, because then he would either be cured or die. Mental illness goes on and on and on, and it never lets go.

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    • Claire - Matching Pegs

      “You know, sometimes I’ve found myself wishing my brother had cancer instead, because then he would either be cured or die. Mental illness goes on and on and on, and it never lets go.”

      Amen. Absolutely. I feel exactly like this and have uttered this very same sentence to friends that are understanding enough get it. I love my brother fiercely, but sometimes I just despair – his life is just so painful.

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      • Kylie L

        Hi Claire- I just read your amazing comment above before seeing your reply here. What I wrote is harsh, but I’m so glad you “get” it. Hugs to you and your family. xxxx

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        • Other zoe

          I used to wish for my mums death as it was so all consuming being the focus of her paranoia. After 20 years of severe illness my mum was finally on medication that worked, she had a great job ( such an incredible feat) and was at uni getting distinctions the whole way. I had her much wished for grandchild and family was starting to heal. She developed a brain tumor and passed away just as it was all coming together. I’m finding this post so hard to read.

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  34. picardie.girl

    Mental illness is a tricky thing, and it is only by reading actual stories from real people affected that we can come to some kind of understanding. Thank you so much for contributing to that collective understanding. x

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  35. Bunny

    My mother-in-law suffers from mental illness and her two (adult) children find it so hard to cope with.

    For years she has been seeing a psychiatrist, who has told both my husband and sister-in-law that her ‘healing’ (for want of a better word on my part) will take years. There are numerous issues that began many, many years ago and are complicated by more recent happenings.

    It is such a complex thing and so hard for her children to understand – they just see a lack of ‘progress’ and the comments in this forum and in Dee’s post about the sufferer retreating into their own world are so apt in our situation. I can see the frustration on both sides. Unfortunately there is no easy answer.

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  36. nicmclachlan

    Dee, I love that you are able to be both proud and annoyed at your sister. Both are things that prove you are human – as is your sister. x

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  37. jaynepersian

    My aunty has schizophrenia. Another aunty had electric shock therapy after she tried to commit suicide. I have chronic depression and, then, developed sudden, frightening postnatal anxiety. Please don’t call mood disorders ‘legwarmers’. Any mental illness is scary and awful.

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    • dee madigan

      You’re right. Even though it was written as a speech (in which we often try to lighten things, more so than written pieces), I think I was a bit flippant in my descriptions of other mental illnesses .

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  38. Madam Bipolar (@SawHole)

    Dee, I admire your good intentions, but you do not have to denigrate others with other mental illness in the process. “Even Bipolar with the saucy ‘increased libido’ of the mania criteria makes everyone a bit nervous and excited.” What is this meant to mean? In my opinion, it is like saying: “No-one cares about bowel cancer but look what they are doing with boobs over at breast cancer.” Your statement is offensive and I reject it as a patient advocate and someone with bipolar disorder. You are just perpetuating the stereotype that bipolar patients are out-of-control.
    In my work as a patient advocate I have learned that the best way to build bridges is by being inclusive. I don’t resent people with depression because it is a disease with its own suffering. Same goes for anxiety or PTSD. Mental illness is suffering.
    I know your intentions are good and you sound like a wonderful sister, you have just pissed me off no end today.
    Kind Regards,
    Madam Bipolar

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    • Mel Byrne

      So well articulated Sawhole. 100% agreeance

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  39. Haven Maven

    Beautiful post Dee.

    So well written.

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  40. .

    “It’s the behaviour of someone who essentially lost the confidence to believe she could manage in a more mainstream world, and actually seems pretty content in the world she now lives.”
    You really hit the nail on the head here, for me at least.
    Your sister and I have a lot in common, although different diagnoses. I can’t say how your sister feels but I have lost many years to hospitals/crazy times and feel I simply don’t slot into “normal” expectations and desires and it gets harder to explain to people, so my circle shrinks and I retreat into my own world, which feeds my feelings of inadequacy.

    Thank you for sharing a sibling’s point of view.

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  41. kerrisackville

    Dee, you have written so beautifully about schizophrenia and your own experience as the sister of an ill person. As someone whose own sister was ill for 25 years (not with schizophrenia) and then died, my heart goes out to you, because I know the daily emotional pain you live with. x

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  42. sometimeskaren

    Dee, that must have been difficult to put together. Thank you so much for speaking about it and enlightening those of us who have no idea what others go through.

    Wishing your sister much love and happiness.

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  43. Rick Morton

    Dee this is brilliant. You’re brilliant and you’ve explained a critical difference here between some of the mental illnesses. It’s hard, but you’re a good sister for trying. x

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  44. ReplyPaid

    Thanks so much, Dee, for writing about this serious and common illness. Please let us know how we can help out the Schizophrenia Research Institute.

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  45. slc

    Thank you Dee. It’s very brave to speak about your sister and your family’s experiences. I feel that there is still a taboo about speaking about most mental illnesses, including bi-polar (or manic depression as it was called) which my father has.
    As in your sister’s case these people are often gifted and have so much potential and that is another sadness, besides the every day stuff, that they won’t meet their potential, not for our sake, but theirs.
    Much love and respect.

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  46. Helen

    I “lost” my mother to schizophrenia when I was six. I had two (not much older) brothers and a baby sister. I miss her so much. She is just a shell. My brave dad has stood by her for 36 years like this. Now he has lung cancer. Mental illness sucks!! There is no support. It is not discussed …. And it should be ….

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  47. veruca salt

    I empathise with you and I know exactly how you feel. I have three mentally ill siblings. My sister at the moment is not too bad but she is starting to escalate in mood (she has bi-polar). My brother is schizophrenic and my mother cared for him until she went into a nursing home 2 years ago. She died 3 weeks ago. My brother is so ill and so uncared for that I weep for him but there is nothing I can do. He has no social network at all other than his siblings. He has never held down a job or been involved in a relationship with a female. Recently he has admitted himself three times to Flinders Medical Centre as he is so unwell and has been sent home each time with pills the same day or night. He is on an order for medication but his illness is so bad he is now suffering from dementia as well. He weight 30 kilos, is unkempt, lives in a dirty house with little or no food. He is always ringing and begging for money which he spends on dope or gambling. All his life he has been in and out of psychiatric hospitals and each time he has returned home with no support system other than my mother and me. He has literally fallen through the cracks. I have visited his doctor several times and he says that the mental health system is overloaded and he cannot help. I have rung different organizations but no-one seems to have an answer for me. I have to work full time as I am single and looked after my Mum’s needs until her death as well as juggling time to see him and help out as best I could. He talks to himself day and night. He is obviously tortured but no-one can help him as all he wants is money for his addictions. I feel sad and wretched as I feel totally helpless and I am so stressed from years of mental health problems in our family that I literally cannot cope any more.

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    • ladybird73

      Oh my dear, I wish there was something I could do to help you but I have absolutely no idea what to say or do!
      I am so sorry you are in such an untenable situation, I hope everything gets better soon.
      Your post has moved me to tears.

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      • ReplyPaid

        Same. I have been trying to think of an appropriate response to Veruca Salt’s post. You have done it for me, ladybird73 – thanks.

        VS, sending you lots of love and support in what must be an overwhelming situation.

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    • Haven Maven

      Veruca you poor love. To have only lost your mum 3 weeks ago – my heart breaks for you. I hope that someone may have the answer to help find your brother some support. And I also hope that you find some help and support for yourself. You too are in need of kind care x

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    • Trills

      How heartbreaking. My deepest sympathies, VS.

      It is terrifying how “the system” is inadequate for so many people dealing with mentally ill relatives. Treatment and accommodation is not always ideal even once one’s family member is inside the system either as Dee points out. I have noted however, in another interview I heard recently that the professions which deal with mental illness are themselves decrying the state of neglect which seems to have been allowed to occur over the past 15 years or so in our two tiered (Federal and State) health System. Maybe there’s some light on ht horizon. One can only hope it reaches you in time, VS.

      I’m grateful for having our awareness raised by brave writers in regard to the effects on patients and families by the less understandable and relatable
      mental illnesses. I truly feel for those struggling on a daily basis with what is almost incomprehensible to most people.

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      • veruca salt

        Thanks to all for your kind words. Yes, it is overwhelming. I have been through the hellish experience of psychotic episodes, mania, violence and excess spending/debt with my siblings for the past 25 years and it is not pretty. The mental health system is appalling. Most of the care was left to my Mum and now me. I myself have seen a psychologist to deal with it as I am just not coping – especially since my Mum’s death as we were so close and had been through it all together. I feel bereft without her here. Unfortunately I cannot see any light at all as it is like an out of control merry-go-round, year in, year out.

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        • elle

          I so feel for you Veruca! :( Do you have/can you get private health insurance for your brother? If you can, try to get into South Pacific Private Hospital or Northside Hospital in Sydney. The public health system is atrocious! Don’t give up! You are doing your very best and where there is life..there is hope x

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          • veruca salt

            Unfortunately I cannot afford private health insurance for myself let alone my brother. :( Also we live in South Australia which has one of the worst if not THE worst mental health system in Australia.

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    • amandarose

      I feel your pain being in a similar situation. it is frustrating they do not do more to provide supported care. We found having my brother made ward of the state helped- they had to look after him then. We they did until so daft person decided we don’t need 24 supported care any more and closed all the places down in Tasmania. I am I. NSW now and just heard of. 33 year old kept in the rehab ward of the local hospital( where old people go for care after a broken hip etc) for 18 months and still can’t accomodate him.
      It is shameful and more stories like this help raise awareness.

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    • Sqoo

      Oh VS, I just want to come and give you a hug but I know that won’t help your situation. I have a lovely nephew who has suffered from this horrible illness for 12 years now and have a small insight into what you must be going through. It’s just so sad. We worry so much and feel so helpless. Please try to look after yourself amongst the turmoil you must be suffering. You sound like the most amazing and lovely person.

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  48. johilder

    What a fantastic post. I’m a mental health support worker, working with people like your sister. I agree that our society largely has no concept of this under-culture of major mental illness that exists amongst them. I have learned so much about society, life and about myself since I started this job, and it’s changed the way I look at the world and at people. Good on you for advocating for your sister – and most importantly for yourself – because the families of the mentally ill endure their own kind of pain and suffering.
    Bless you and your family, most sincerely,
    Jo Hilder

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    • ReplyPaid

      Thank God/the ‘Powers that Be’ for people like you, Jo. Thank you for the work that you do.

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  49. Lana

    Wow. I loved reading this post. I feel like you understand my life.

    My brother-in-law is schizophrenic but probably less functional than your sister. He certainly cannot hold down a relationship. Not even a friendship. His days are black and lonely. Full of despair and drugs. There is not a single thing that he has to look forward to. It is so incredibly hard on his family and the strain is visible.

    Knowing how hard it is for us, I cannot for a minute imagine how hard it must be for him

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    • veruca salt

      It is torture for the sufferer and utter helplessness and despair for the famiies. My mother literally died of a broken heart after looking after her three mentally ill children. :(

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      • 4girls

        My question is where do we start to arrange help for her?
        She refuses to believe she has any issues?
        She refuses medication and counseling?

        We are a family of siblings concerned about our sister who has been displaying behaviors that brings us to this site. We have been dealing with such behaviors for the past 8 years and have only recently been given the opportunity to see it first hand with the recent conversations she has been having with us.
        We find she is constantly having screaming conversations with herself at anytime anywhere, about the government/media/science/electricity/radiation and God intervening in her life.
        I received a letter on Friday in the mail from her, which was her WILL, this is not the first time I have received this it’s been the second in 6mths.
        I feel we need direction as to where to go for help without her consent.
        The WILL states in detail exactly the behavior we have seen.

        This is a quick snippet of it.
        “I GIVE MY FULL SUPPORT to my sisters should they wish to sue the persons, people or entity that deliberately and consciously made a public spectacle of my life, made my private life public and consequently made the last eight years of my life a living hell to which my family and I all suffered and consequently other people have benefited. All of this was done without my consent. I felt completely oppressed and fearful during this time. I felt like a subject of a social experiment. I was well aware that I was being watched and violated on a daily basis and that my life was a “free-for-all”. I was subjected to psychological and emotional manipulation in public and subliminal manipulation through the media since 2004. Everyone acted like it was ‘not real’ and that I was suffering from a Mental Illness. I believe that people decided that I was suffering with afflictions such as delusions of insanity, delusions of grandeur, a “God” delusion, dipolar disorder, borderline personality disorder, and paranoid schizophrenia. However I was suffering depression until approx. 2011.”
        To my siblings we are quite concerned and need to know where to go next.
        We are feeling lost and need to get help I feel fairly soon. my last conversation with her was about all of the above and I told her I would not let anyone do this to her we would stop his together. She mentioned that they have left her for dead. Which leaves her not many avenues for reconciliation.

        PLEASE HELP US HELP HER. Before it’s to late.

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