by STEPHANIE DOUST
My grandma turns 90 in December. To celebrate her life, the family is gathering her life into a photo album. As one of her 17 grandchildren, I, along with her 7 children, other grandchildren and 18 great-grandchildren, was requested to send in photos that can be compiled into a book.
My mum started to compile some photos on behalf of our family. She sent them through to me on email and we caught up over Skype to laugh and reminisce over them. At one point, Mum said jokingly, “There’s only ONE photo of you because you’ve only managed to produce one daughter.” I laughed along with her. It’s true. I have only one daughter.
Later that day, walking that daughter along a dog-poo infested street in a dodgy part of Brussels, I got to thinking about what Mum said. I realised it actually really, really annoyed me. I felt unseen. Disappeared in the wake of my gorgeous daughter’s presence. She didn’t mean to, but my mum had managed – in one sentence – to reduce my entire life to only one item of value: my daughter.
My daughter is precious. She’s the apple of my eye; the light of my life. Her smile breaks my heart. Her laugh makes me giggle till I cry. I don’t want to say she’s my proudest achievement- to borrow a well-used cliché. She’s not an achievement, she’s a glorious, hoped for child who happened literally on a wish and a prayer. My daughter is a blessing. I get that. But she’s not me and nor is she the sum of my life.
Although I’ve gone through horrible times of self-doubt and crippling depression, I actually quite like myself. I’m proud of what I’ve done, proud of what I’m capable of. I’m hopeless at maths, have a terrible habit of finishing the sentences of people who speak slowly, have to work much harder at saying ‘I love you’, but throw me in the middle of a disaster-affected country or a civil war and I’ll float. Give me a recalcitrant petty tyrant and a nepotistic foreign government and I’m pretty good at rolling my sleeves up and making things work.
I looked through my photos and grinned at the one of me sitting on a tank at the top of a hill on the outskirts of Kabul, posing under Saddam’s crossed swords in Baghdad, trailing Tony Blair in Palestine; remembered with horror the stench in Banda Aceh, felt the sadness well up over the shot of child soldiers in Sri Lanka. Sunk my head in my hands and cried when I got to the album chronicling 15 years of a marriage now failed. Smiled at wild shots of my partner and I so clearly, obviously, freshly in love and high on G&Ts in a Red Cross bunker.
Then I started in on the 497 shots of my 7.5 month-old daughter. The progression felt right, natural. But these newest photos don’t cancel out, don’t erase the previous 37 years of my life.
I think about the last 7.5 months and how my conversations with my mum have moved from “Now, which country are in you in again, darling?” to “Is she sleeping ok?” Now when we skype, there are periods of long silences where both of us are just watching my daughter, both revelling in her joie de vivre.
Conversations dry up as I get to the end of the litany of her latest achievements: touching her finger-tips together, rolling over, smiling when I say ‘butterfly’. When my mum brings me up to speed with my sisters’ news, it’s not actually about my sisters at all, but about the latest thing their kids have done, or said, or not done.
Where did I disappear to in the past 7.5 months? Where have my sisters gone? Their thoughts, fears, hopes, highs, lows and just survivings?
And then I thought about my grandma. She is a phenomenal woman with a prodigious memory. She has her hair done every Tuesday and always notices if I’ve had a manicure or not. She can tell you about her Europe trip in the 1950s like it was yesterday, down to what it cost her to have her hair cut in Harrods sixty years ago. She adores the Australian Cricket Team, never missing an opportunity to coach them from the sidelines of a broadcast; knows all the names of the Crows’ line-up.
She married young, to the love of her life. Lucky for her – the only love of her life. She has never ever taken off her wedding ring. She gave up drawing and painting because my Grandpa didn’t like her having hobbies that interfered with her time with him. Didn’t matter than he went off to war for the first 9 months of their life together. She smiled at his side through years of frustrating deafness, his stubborn streak that would make a mule shy, hid her own breast cancer for two years as he saw out the end of his life. And in celebration of her, I can’t help but feel, even though it’s clear she loves her children and their children, we have managed to erase her, capturing her life only in the outputs of her children.
Do you remember that awful tradition, not so long ago, of addressing letters to married women as Mrs. Insert name of the woman’s husband: Mrs John Smith? Do I now become by default Ms. Insert name of daughter’s mother? We see it all the time on Facebook, women’s headshots replaced by ultrasounds, by tightly swaddled squashed looking newborns, by grinning toddlers, by graduating teenagers. The ‘I’ getting lost in ‘mine’.
Is this what happens to we women? We become, not reduced, but kind of re-focussed, by our ability to produce? Am I destined always to have a byline added: “And she managed to raise a daughter as well”?
I’m glad, privileged to have a daughter. But I refuse to swap lives with her. In about 12 years time she won’t allow that anyway. I sent my grandma four photos in the end: half and half. Balanced, not all-consumed.
Having just deleted her email signature block in lieu of full-time motherhood (tossing in international politics for Playschool), Steph is passionate about personal responsibility at a global level. Professionally, she (used to) works helping to set up governments in countries emerging from wars; privately, she sings with Maria Callas and dances with Michael Jackson.
Do you feel that your kids’ lives start to take over your own?









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Great article, Steph.
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I’ve experienced this too Stephanie when I am with women who consider their main achievement in life as motherhood. Not that there is anything less wonderful about that than career, travel, whatever else but that is what the conversation gets limited to when you are with them. I often find myself wandering over to hang out with the guys at parties because their conversations are so much more interesting. What I’ve taken from this is that I should always try and seek out the company of women who inspire me and who are living a full life outside their family so that I can get the stimulation I need. The wives of my hubby’s mates and my old school gal-pals may not necessarily fill this need. As for the women who place a woman’s value at how many children, how many awful labours, how long they breastfed for, they have a right to that preoccupation as children are the most amazing thing a woman could do but I think it would be good for more girls to hear their Mums talk about politics and world events at social gatherings!
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I agree that there are mothers out there who don’t talk about a whole lot other than their children, but have you stopped to consider that the other women in your life who appear to have nothing else to talk about may in fact be gagging to have an adult conversation about something other than children? As Stephanie so rightly put it, but which I think you have misunderstood, once we become mothers society tends to define on us on this basis, and because of this we as individuals in our own right gets lost. Especially for those of us at home raising our children, whether than be for 6 months or 6 years, we are treated as Mum’s who have nothing else to contribute other than Mummy talk. Next time you find yourself in one of these situations, why don’t you try asking these women what they do/use to do for work, what places they have traveled to, what their thoughts are on the economy or the environment, or just anything other than children? You might just be surprised that behind the mummy-facade you might just find an extremely intelligent, capable woman gagging to talk about something other than kids.
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Thanks for taking the time to comment, Leanne. You’re right- taking the time to dig deeper (beyond the nappy bag) is really important. I find though, that I too, have to put the effort in- otherwise, I too become a bit of a ‘my daughter this and my daughter that’ – which is unforgivable in the past few days given all that’s going on in the wider world. S
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Thanks for taking the time to comment, Anon- I get it! I think we become (or think about becoming) what we see…and so, modelling and talking about topics other than one’s kids is really important. Maybe it’s also good for kids to understand the breadth of the world, and that they’re not necessarily at the centre of it!
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But whats the point of having a fabulous amazing succesfully demanding fulfilling career if your kids lives are a shambles because of it. I’m not saying that is always the case. Mostly not. But I do know some families where a bit of perspective and time out from their workaholic ways could really benefit their childrens quality of life.
Mum and dad both have amazing careers but all anyone can notice is how sad and neglected their poor kids seem.
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“Mum and dad both have amazing careers but all anyone can notice is how sad and neglected their poor kids seem.”
Just curious how you came to this conclusion and who is everyone? Maybe it’s you who sees it that way and are then projecting it onto everyone else. My mum had a big career but I was never sad and neglected and I don’t resent her one bit, if anything, I’m very proud of her.
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Comments made by other parents…many of these parents work too, so its not having a go at working mothers. Its having a go at mothers who work too hard at the expense of their childrens wellbeing.
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But how ones this relate to the article? The author is now a full time mum.
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Thanks for taking the time to comment, chillax. Whilst I think you’ve tarred all working parents with the same brush here, I get your point. I’m working for a good quality of life for my daughter, by staying at home at the moment, but I’m also really, really lucky to be able to afford to do so. There are many who can’t and who are working very hard, and ‘playing’ very hard (with their kids), trying to capture the elusive balance of making ends meet and taking the time they need with their family. It’s not easy. S
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What a wonderful refreshing post.
I think for some people parenthood is the be all and end all. There are some men and women who truly believe that procreating is the most important thing a person can do with their life. Maybe their lives weren’t as exciting or happy before their children came along. Maybe a child was all they ever wanted to achieve. I don’t know.
Children are indeed a blessing but should always be a brilliant and much loved addition to an already full life.
I don’t know if Albert Einsten, Marie Curie, Jane Austen or Michelangelo were parents. But I know their contributions to the world were because of them, not because they had children.
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The title should be re-thought. You are ‘having’ an amazing life and your daughter is a big part of that
I think you’re in the adjustment phase afer having a baby and it is a huge adjustment..your mum and your grandma might be focusing on the things that made their lives most significant as they look back. And one of those things is you
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Well I’d guess the photo of you and your daughter is because the book is about your grandma, not you, and her offspring and their offspring etc is what makes it about her. Her descendants.
I love looking along my family tree and I always think, Wow if that person hadn’t met that person (five generations ago or anywhere along the tree) I wouldn’t be here.
If you want a book about you, how about you start that one yourself. You can pass it on to your daughter.
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So no child no inclusion into the photo book? My grandmother is proud of all of my achievements not just the baby making ones. It’s why they migrated to Australia and made the sacrifices they did
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Umm..photos of descendants..so yes, with or without child you’d get your photo.
Being proud of one’s achievements doesn’t mean they need to be represented in a family photo book. And let’s face it it’d have to be a pretty massive photo book in this instance to have photos representing all the achievements of the 7 children, 18 grandchildren and 17 great grandchildren!
Family is the focus, so photos of family ( mothers/fathers/children) makes perfect sense to me. It’s not a photo of your “baby making achievements” (WTF??) it’s a photo of your family.
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I agree Teacup.
This is about the grandmothers achievements, not about the fact that Rebecca once travelled to the Libyan border.
This post has me scratching me head.
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The authors name is Stephanie. I never travelled to the Libyan border. You seem to be mixing people up no wonder you’re confused curiouser. Stephanie’s mum seemed to indicate that while there were several photos of other family members there was only one of her. I could under stand if there was one of everyone of the grandchildren with their kids but I can not understand why it would be a case of more kids more pics.
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Well I’d guess the photo of you and your daughter is because the book is about your grandma, not you, and her offspring and their offspring etc is what makes it about her. Her descendants.
I love looking along my family tree and I always think, Wow if that person hadn’t met that person (five generations ago or anywhere along the tree) I wouldn’t be here.
If you want a book about you, how about you start that one yourself. You can pass it on to your daughter.
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Thanks, Teacup. Actually, I’m not really bothered if I have a book about myself, or not. There are many more interesting things to read, I’m sure. But yes- the idea of writing down some of the things that have made up my life, and passing them onto my daughter as a kind of ‘lessons learnt’ or ‘just because I had time to write’ might be a good idea! Thank you. S
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I enjoyed reading this article and I see the writers’ point. It took me 2 and a half years to conceive my first child and for 18 months of that time I was totally consumed with trying to conceive and really began to feel that becoming a parent was the be all and end all. When I had my daughter, while I adored her of course, I was almost surprised to realise that I still wanted to do the things I did before she was in my life and have interests outside of her. I think becoming a parent is a massive life changing event, but putting it into perspective it’s just one part of your life’s journey
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Thanks, Hannah. I too was surprised when what I enjoyed in my ‘old life’ didn’t go away…walking past a pub one night around 8pm, I was consumed by the need to go in and have a glass of wine, and just sit and ‘be’. I felt almost guilty that I still wanted to do that. Bring on the end of breastfeeding, I say, and then I most certainly shall! S
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Parenthood, particularly in the early days can be all consuming and you can feel that your “old self” is lost and others tend to reinforce this, usually unintentionally.
I always reminded myself that I was here first and would still be here when they leave home. So occasionally, I will steer conversation away from children and to general topics. I make sure to have interests outside of my children. I love them dearly and while they’re a major part of my life, they’re not all of it.
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Lovely post. couldn’t agree more.
Parenting lasts from the day you have them til the day you die, but the intensive part is quite short in the scheme of things. Which leave you with two things to remember 1. Enjoy it as much as you can, cos it feels like forever but its not and 2. You are you forever. You are the intensive bit of ‘how is bob going at feeding/sleeping.school’ for a short bit of time. So make sure ‘you’ are still left over at the end.
The thing about disappearing is your immediate life is always defined by your day to day life. With small children, especially if you are not working, you can disappear into it. It’s not a bad thing, its a temporary thing.
In fairness to the author, her daughter is still a small baby. For me, tiny babies are an accomplishment for surviving it, but your achievements are ‘its alive. i’m feeding it and if i’m really lucky it sleeps’. the feeling of achievement as a parent for me comes from the first lot of good manners, the first lots of demonstrations of compassion, that your child is turning into an adult you would like.
Your last line is the blinder, balanced, not all consumed. That is the heart of it.
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Thumbs up!
(cos it’s not showing one for me)
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Dee – thanks. You’re so right when you say ‘it’s a temporary thing’. Life is made up of seasons, I guess. And right now, I’m in the season of mum. Actually, I love it very much, and I can certainly feel it speeding past. Thank you. S
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I know one thing for certain. In my final moments on this earth, it will be my children that will be my finest achievement, my hardest job, my beginning, end and all.
I am a mother first, last and always. After 30 years and with grand parenthood imminent, there is still no achievement that surpasses it.
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I don’t think any parent would disagree that their performance as a parent and the happiness of their kid is what they will think of in their last moments.
That doesn’t make it the sum of your achievements.
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What I know or certain is that I have achieved and failed at many things in life and I hope that in my final moments on earth I am remembered for all of these as the sum of them is what made me the person and parent that I am. I hope that my children see me as a whole person with a past and gain some inspiration from this to take chances in life. Yes, I am a mother, first last and always aswell but my studies, work and travels overseas, the people I’ve met, the things I’ve seen contribute to that, which is why I can’t say that my life began with my kids.
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Good on you, Anonymous for feeling that way about being a mother. If you love it, you love it. I’m not sure I want to consider my children (or child, at this stage) my ‘achievement’. They’ll be their own achievement. But yes- my ‘hardest job’, I have to agree with you there! Thank you. S
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That’s what parenting is about, getting over yourself. You’ll have great achievements again. For now though its not about you and your previously exciting life. It’s about your daughter her life experience ahead.
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So her mum couldn’t put some photos of her before she had her daughter in the photo album? I don’t think it’s about getting over herself but her family recognising she’s done more than this. If she hadn’t had any children would there be any photos or any recognition of other achievements ?
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I don’t understand this. The book isn’t about her achievements it’s a book for / about her grandmother. It’s quite normal for these to be all about family.
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To my grandmother it was about our achievements and whilst she counted her great grandchildren as such, being a nurse in the war our achievements as woman and as individuals where more important, having children to her was only one part of a long life and not the exclusive thing in our lives.
Our graduation photos, photos from our overseas adventures, my cousins photos of being in the army reserve etc all adorned her walls. She felt that our achievements where a sign of the freedom people fought for, that’s why she had her children not as achievements but so they could live, learn, love, experience all life had to offer. She cherished every single one of her grandchildren and great grandchildren but she never lost sight of who we where and she never wanted us to stop experiencing or to stop being the people we are because we had children.
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But she is family, why does she have to have a child to be part of that family. My grandmother has heaps of photos of me before I had kids, graduations, going overseas, playing in bands, various family gatherings, camping trips etc. I disagree that these things are just about me and not my grandparents. I achieved these things, as have my siblings, in a large part because of our supportive family, not in isolation. On my grandmothers 90th I want her to look back on all of us and go ‘what a successful, amazing family I brought onto this earth, it was worth it’ not just a pictorial family tree.
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Its not just about her daughter though. It’s about both of them.
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Thanks, Mumtoo. I think you’re insinuating I need to get over myself. Thanks for that. Very helpful. Actually, I don’t think my life was previously more exciting than it is now. Motherhood is an incredibly exciting journey. It’s just not the whole story. And I disagree, it’s not all about my daughter’s life experience ahead, it’s about mine too. I’d be a pretty lousy mother if I didn’t expect to grow along the way too. S
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WOW!!!!! You are so true and only recently I have been seeing a life coach and when he asked me the question who am I and I answered it with a mum, daughter, wife, employee, caring , loving, outgoing etc etc everything I said he said no that is NOT who you are that is what you DO.
It was a real slap in a face in a good way. It made me think about who am I?
Good on you for taking control of your life and enjoying who YOU are.
We only have one life and we need to live it to the full!!
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Thanks, Jules7. You hit the nail on the head, with your comment about your answer being what you ‘do’ rather than who you ‘are’. I’ve realised (with a huge thud), since stopping full time (paid) work, how much I defined myself by what I did (and hope to do again)…I have to look deeper now to find out who I am. It’s a steep learning curve, but a good one! Thank you. S
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I couldn’t agree more. My MIL started calling me Mum once I had children and still to this day thinks I am over sensitive for being offended and insisting she call me by my name. I am very proud to be a mum but my children aren’t my only achievements.
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I’m glad to know that others react this way. My Dad sometimes refers to me as , “Mother” and I bristle so much. I despise being called that. I have a name, I’m still a person, I’m still me.
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Interesting how different we all are. Often, my FIL (and occasionally my husband) refer to me as “mum” in front of the kids.
Ask anyone and they’ll tell you I am myself first, and then a mother. But I really latch onto it as acknowledgement of the importance of my role. A recognition of my indispensibility and sign of respect for all I do.
All in all I think I’m just desperate for reco!!! However it comes!
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When my husband and I started referring to each other as “mum” and “dad” in front of our cockatiel, we realised it was time for that next step: children.
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Watch out, Simone! I’ve heard cockatiels are really bad when it comes to sibling jealousy…
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This is a refreshing take. Most of the women I know measure themselves almost completely by their children, and their children’s achievements.
What do these kind of people think of people who can’t or don’t want to have children?
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Thanks, Kate. I may be showing my age here, but do you remember that Alanis Morrisette song, ‘Perfect’? I think that sums up the whole living vicariously through one’s kids. Scary stuff. Thank you. S
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I try not too talk too often about my child, I still talk about him I just don’t go on and on as I’m also a woman separate from my child.
Unfortunately certain people no longer see it that way. Take my in laws they no longer ask how I am, they no longer even ask what iv been up to, I might as well be invisible. The first thing my mother in law says when I pick up the phone is not “hi how are you” it’s automatically ” how’s my grandy, what’s he doing etc etc” not that I mind she’s proud and thers cute but after the phone call has ended I realise I didn’t even get a simple hello.
I believe in life balance I believe your a woman before you are a mother. Who you where and who you are is still very much important. Your achievements are not in the past because they are things that you can share with your children so they realise mum is not just mum but she’s a woman who has done amazing things.
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Dear Author,
There are many women with admirable career achievements and interesting lives who at some point in time find themselves mothers. Either on purpose or by accident. This does not mean they cease to exist as that other person, although motherhood can at times be all consuming. Recently I attended the funeral of a high achieving 39 year old mother. She was a doctor. As I sat at the funeral and listened to people talk about her career accolades I looked at her three children. I knew at that point in time just how very important she was. All her patients would find a new doctor with little difficulty. Those three children could not so easily find a new mother. Your Grandmother has not been erased. You have written an article about her, she influences your thoughts and being quite overtly. She has been important in shaping you, even if it be for all the ways in which you define your differences. Your career achievements do not cease to exist because you are a mother. They are not mutually exclusive. Enjoy this phase of your life. It passes by so quickly.
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Thanks, nicoleelizabeth. You make a very real, very poignant point- thank you. And I am trying to soak it all in. Very much. S
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I don’t have any children yet but when my mum sends anything in the mail which is for my husband and myself she still addresses it as Mr and Mrs John Smith etc. It drives me nuts! I am my own person just because I am married does not mean I have changed! When I say something she gets offended. I can only imagine what it will be like when I have children.
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I would never be upset if I was paid a compliment about only being a mother. We all have life experiences,Im not sure its worth the worry about whether anyone else links them to you though? Id rather focus on my present.
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Thanks, Amy. I guess that’s why the world is such an interesting place. We all have different opinions and different things that drive us. You wouldn’t mind being ‘only a mother’; I would. That’s what keeps it interesting. Thank you. S
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So true! Just live your life and be proud of everything – your job and your daughter! I think we judge ourselves FAR more than we perceive other people are!
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My soul and spirit was unexpectedly awoken after I became a mum 10 months ago – it has truly been a life changing and wonderful experience. I see myself so intrinsically linked with my child, I am already wondering how I’ll cope when the kids leave home! Stephanie – your article is beautifully articulated and I agree with your sentiments wholeheartedly… it has made me realise that I shouldn’t forget who I was before I had children, and I should continue to keep a strong sense of who I am as an individua (and in turn, celebrate that)l. I think women can and should do this so they can be even better mothers.
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Thanks, Latte Mum. Isn’t it ridiculous how our thoughts already turn to when our kids leave home. My daughter is under strict instructions (perfectly comprehended, of course!) that she is NEVER leaving. And I agree: a strong sense of who we are does make us better mothers…if only to be a compass in our children’s storms. Thank you. S
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This is a well written thought provoking article. We have recently lost two second semester pregnancies and in no way do we feel this article questions the importance of being a mother, or the significance of the children in our lives. So often all people do talk about is there children, it does take over their lives and we lose ourselves. We should always value ourselves as individuals and be proud of our achievements. I wish we could read more things on this topic in every magazine or website we open. Thank you Stephanie for your honesty, very refreshing.
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TJ- thanks for YOUR honesty. I’m really very sorry to know that you have lost two children. I lost two, too, before the birth of my daughter. It is horrible and horrific. I’m not sure if it ever goes away. If you are trying again, I pray that he/she will ‘stay put’ this time. And if not, then I pray you will find peace and contentment there too. Thank you. S
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Beautifully said Stephanie x
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I agree with you Stephanie. You have captured exactly how I have felt for about 35 years. Yes, I am a Mum and now a Grandma but I am so much more and so are you. For a start, you are a really great writer!
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I think you’ve taken a flippant comment and made a HUGE assumption here. Don’t be so sensitive, you’ve got experiences to be proud of and lived well. I get it,one life seems to cease at their birth as another begins but to me, your worry is completely and utterly a first world problem. You’re worrying about being eclipsed by your child whilst people in Gaza and Israel are worrying about whether they’ll make it through the day today….
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Yes I can’t help but feel angry reading this when Rachel’s post about losing her son is still very fresh in my mind. That’s probably not fair but that’s my reaction.
Your daughter might not be your whole life Stephanie but you are hers. And while will she not need you in 12 years time? She will still need your love and presence in her life though nowhere near as much as now. But she will still need you.
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I think that if you have ever lost a child and known the experience that can best be described as “losing a part of yourself” then…well you realise that, in life, having children is a wonderful blessing…and yes to a large extent, especially as babies, they do tend to take over and many people might see you as a mother first because it is such an emotional and powerful role to play. Of course it doesn’t replace or belittle what you did before or other roles you have and of course life needs to have balance( this goes for everyone not just mothers) but you know what…love your children with all your heart as life is short peace, xxx
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Thanks, Jenny and GH. I think it’s not really fair to contrast two articles about such vastly different things (but thanks that you were honest in your reactions), nor to assume that I don’t know what it’s like to lose a child. I know this very, very well. Maybe that’s why I have the perspective I do? I’m not sure- just wondering out loud. Thank you. S
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Well come on in all fairness every issue that we face seems pretty bloody trivial when you compare it to life and death situations.
I don’t think it’s that she’s worried she’s becoming ‘eclipsed’ by her child, I think it’s more that our culture portrays people as mother first, person second. Like once you give birth your identity shifts from who you are to ‘mother’.
In many other cultures there is a more evenly weighed focus on people for who they are and what they do, not just on the fact that they are a parent.
There have been a few similar articles on MM recently, it’s an issue that a lot of people struggle with.
I know it’s one of my fears about having a child, I don’t want to lose who I am. I suspect that is a pretty universal feeling across the world.
I’m not directing this at your comment, just in general I really hate how any complaint or analysis about being a mother is automatically met with a wall of ‘how dare you not sacrifice everything you are for your child’, as though not wanting your whole existence to be defined by motherhood makes someone a horrible mother.
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I agree with MJ
I saw this post as more as a relisation to the difference your life has become not a complaint. It’s easy to turn around and say hey losing a child is worse be greatful, your right losing a child is horrendous and something no one should have to go through. But what is unfair is the expectation of not being allowed to say your thoughts or even your small complaints because someone may throw you the ” you should be greatful” card and how dare you.
I have a family member who can’t have children, I’m not allowed to complain about motherhood, I’m not allowed to be annoyed at anything to do with motherhood because if I do ( even if its not around her but gets back to her) I get yelled at that I should be greatful and how dare i think or feel that way. even when i suffered with pnd i was not allowed to talk about that as she would love to have pnd because it meant a child, i should be greatful because my problems where insignificant to hers. i feel for her but it doesn’t mean I don’t get to have my feelings, it doesn’t mean my feelings or thoughts are less important or my views for that matter. I found this article brilliant and matches the many thoughts of woman I know.
I used to paint before my child I haven’t picked up a paintbrush since and you know what this article has made me relise I’m going to go paint. Thanks For the article and my new found inspiration.
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Dear Lovely Lady- paint, paint, paint! I can’t say it loud enough all the way from Brussels! I used to write and then stopped…and one of the brilliant things about being home with my daughter is the gift of (some) time to put fingers to keyboard again.
I’m sorry that you don’t have the freedom to talk about being a mum. That’s not fair. You’re being held hostage, and if you get a chance, maybe you could share this feeling with the person involved? Maybe she hasn’t considered the impact it has on you? Thank you. S
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Thanks, Fufu. Actually, I’m not sure if I should say ‘thanks’, but I do like the fact that you’re up front about how you feel! I guess, it’s up to me to interpret if I’ve made a huge assumption or not. I also like the fact that I’m sensitive. I hope it means that I don’t make the assumptions about you that you’ve made about me. I’m not worrying about being eclipsed by my child- she can go ahead and do that with my full blessing (it won’t be hard).
I lived in Palestine for a little while. I get the situation and I worry about my friends there every day. Not just when they’re in the news’ headlines. What are you doing about the awful situation there? S
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My mother has always been a person as well as a mum. She never said it explicitly, but it came across loud and clear. My brothers resent it, where as I admire it and never felt unloved or rejected.
Although, I’ve found as we have gotten older (we’re in our 30s) she is craving a much more insular and close family unit. Her world is shrinking, and she envisaged her 60s to be a time exclusively for kids and grandkids… but she didn’t set it up that way. We have our own lives and are all fiercely independent so all of our differing expectations are just not marrying up at the moment.
It’s way too complicated for this post… but I think her priorities changed as she got older, and she has found it hard to accept that as kids we wouldn’t just fall into new roles because she had. Having said all that, I think I will be similar…I don’t think I could make the motherhood the sum of me. It would certainly be a priority, but I would make room for more. I don’t have kids yet though, so who knows!! haha
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I don’t mean this in an insensitive way, but the song ‘Cats in the Cradle’ immediately comes to mind!
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Totally! Not insensitive at all. That’s exactly the situation… and it’s what comes to mind for me also when I think about how similar I am to my Mum!
I suppose my job is to break the cycle. Insight is a wonderful thing though, and I think that may just be the difference between she and I, although maybe not… who knows!
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Perspective (and a healthy dose of hindsight) is a wonderful thing! Recognising how one’s family operates is the first step to dealing with it, I reckon. Funnily enough, as I get older, I also crave a closer family unit…even though I’ve spent most of my adult life moving away from it. Life is a weird and wonderful thing. Thank goodness! Thank you. S
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Great post. Definite food for thought.
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Food for thought…. The perfect description for this article!
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Love love LOVE this post! I love my kids but I am not my kids. I wasn’t nothing before having kids and having children has definitely enriched my life but there is more to me then them. Thank you for putting it far more eloquently then I ever could.
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I recently went to a 20 year school reunion. I have a successful career in Fashion which should have been conversation worthy, but, all anyone was interested in was where I live & how many kids I have. I only have one so the conversations were short!
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As a 37 year old woman with no children, I find such conversations to be shorter still! I try. But with little to contribute, I find myself a spectator to the sympathetic nods and significant (or to me, puzzling) exchanges among them. Sometimes the group will move on to broader topics once the the basics are established. But more often, it will latch onto what seems to me to be an almost inexhaustable well of conversation. When this happens, I realise that a different cloak of invisibility has enveloped me; a woman yet to exist. Glad to be comfortable in my own skin and happy with life, it’s usually a great time time to quietly step away in search of conversations unknown!
Thanks for your insightful article Steph. Enjoy the unfolding of this next phase of your story.
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Haha! You are obviously a much wiser person than I, TaniaSee. I always thought I had heaps to contribute to those conversations, despite being sans kids! I love the ‘different cloak of invisibility’ line- I know the feeling VERY well. Sometimes I feel so grateful I can now talk knowingly about nappy rash. Tongue firmly in cheek at this point. Thank you! S
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I know this feeling too – I felt like I had changed from me to just someone’s mum – am trying to get a better balance but it is hard – especially as a single mum. I think the first step is recognising it – so well done for the first step Steph.
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Wow, you’ve lived such an amazing life. From an outsider’s perpective, it is very surprising that you should feel that your deeds are eclipsed by anything whatsoever.
Not everyone gets to pretend they’re shooting a Cher video on a tank wreck in Afghanistan you know!
I think that you should be way, way easier on yourself and walk tall.
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I get where she’s coming from. The lens your mother views you through is a two way glass, and it can really affect the way you view yourself.
I was a soldier. I did the Afghan thing. I loved to rock climb, I hiked, camped, traveled extensively… but now all my mother and I talk about is my kids. Wait, sorry… “her” kids. I’m just the vessel that provided them! I don’t mind the bounteous love she showers on them, I’m incredibly glad my daughters have that experience, but surely there is a little maternal attention left for the person I am too? I guess I’m just jealous.
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It’s natural to want a bit of affection and attention for yourself. Have you tried to talk to your Mum about it?
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Tea Bag- hi. Thanks for taking the time to comment. I don’t feel in need of attention or affection-I have a very loving partner and wider family. I think I got over the need for my mum’s affirmation a few years ago too. But- you’re right, I do need to talk to my mum about the comment she made.
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