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Nathyn Costello Bigorexia: when too muscled isnt enough

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We know women are affected by body image issues. But of course they’re not alone. Why would they be? Men are surrounded by taut bodies and rock-hard abs as much as women are surrounded by small hips and shrinking waistlines.

But the difference is mostly in one factor: women want to be smaller, men want to be bigger.

Bigorexia. Muscle dysmorphia. Call it what you will but the essence is this: when some men (women, too) in its grip look in the mirror they see a scrawny, lean physique that needs to be sculpted. And then sculpted some more. And even when they’ve got muscles bulging out of places you didn’t know muscled bulged, it’s never enough.

The biggest man mountain in the world won’t see what the rest of the world sees.

Insight on SBS featured a panel of young men, some not even 18 yet, on its ‘Massive Obsession’ show this week who were stuck in the cycle of muscle building, way beyond just ‘keeping fit’.

Just like women, men can’t turn to many places that don’t feature unrealistic – in many cases, impossible – images of bodies that ‘look better’. Like this:

Everywhere men turn, they're confronted with sculpted bodies and the 'ideal' look.

See, it’s everywhere.

Anthony Nguyen is 14.

He started working out when he was 11 because he had the wrong body shape, he says.

“I started getting serious when I was 13 becuase of my body shape … the Asian race, they are really judgmental. They judge people’s sons a lot and say ‘oh, he’s so skinny’. So I started training and now I try and waste myself during those training sessions,” he says.

I want to be two or three times as big as I am now. Clean. [Not with steroids].”

Nathyn Costello, 34.

“When I was younger I saw a movie with Jean-Claude van Damme in it and I thought, I want to look like that. So that’s what I set about doing. That was everything I worked toward. I was about 13 at the time and I got this reputation as ‘the fit guy’ at school.

“I realise now I probably did, but back then I never thought I crossed a line. I took steroids. That was a long time ago. I stopped going out socially because I need to make sure I ate the right things. I needed to stick to my regime and I couldn’t do that when I was out to dinner. So I just didn’t go.

“I never took my shirt off unless I was below seven per cent body fat. You go to the gym and you see other guys who are bigger than you. It draws you in. Nowadays, I can say no to that. I still train but I do it for health and fitness, not looks.”

Anthony Farrah, 18.

“There’s no limit for me. I want to be a professional body builder one day. To me there is no limit. When I was 14 I was diagnosed with anorexia and bulimia. I lost all faith and motivation to live. When I got out of hospital I started training and it became a drug, I got hooked and it saved my life. It is my life now,” he says.

“Monday is chest and shoulders. Tuesday is legs. You can never be happy with body building. You can always excel. I wish everything was a lot bigger but particularly my legs. There’s no stopping it.

“Yeah, I enjoy eating. I enjoy the taste of success more than I enjoy the taste of any food. When I’m not training I’m distraught. I’ve been told a few times I’ve exchanged one obsession for another. But this is a healthy obsession.”

This is Farrah:

Dr Rocco Crino

Dr Crino is a clinical psychologist with the University of Western Sydney School of Psychology who treats people with body image disorders, including muscle dysmorphia.

“The perception of people with muscle dysmorphia is that they are not muscular enough. They are chasing a phantom look because when they look in the mirror they do not see themselves in a ‘normal’ manner. They do not see what is really there.

“We do not yet know what infrastructure within the brain makes this happen. We know it must be something that teams up with a number of personality factors. Things like obsession, perfectionism.

“I’ve seen cases where people go and have surgical procedures to fix the body part they view as weird or not right and the surgeon does do that … but then they blame the surgeon for doing nothing because to them it looks the same. Or, alternatively, they just transfer the obsession to a different part of their body.

“About one in 100 people have a type of Body Dysmorphic Disorder (BDD) of which muscle dysmorphia is one sub-set of that. But on a broader view, body dissatisfaction – which can be anything – accounts for some 90 to 100 per cent of the population. Many people just get on with it, others are more vulnerable and become obsessed.

“We need to be careful with how we attribute blame to the media because it needs to interact with a vulnerable individual. But yes, there is a percentage of people who can’t handle the images they see every day because they have self-esteem issues. And there are particular groups of people who are almost universally vulnerable, like adolescents.”

Do you identify with any of the body image issues in this post? What about your friends and family?

If you want to catch the fascinating episode of Insight, you can watch it online here or watch the next screening Friday, 8.30pm.

If you or a friend have concerns about body image, visit the Butterfly Foundation for more information or ring their support line 1800 334 673.

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49 Comments so far

  1. Guest

    So NOW the guys are getting an idea of what we (women) have been putting up with for years (body pressures). Maybe now REAL changes will happen in the media.

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    • Joey

      It is not the guys who are the problem, it is media and advertising and us letting ourselves get sucked in.

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    • Jones

      “Maybe now REAL changes will happen in the media.”

      Delusional.

      The ‘media’ is something many can live with, as something to largely ignore, and not wholly buy-into.

      Some individuals cannot easily differentiate between real life and what is shown in moving images on a screen. This is an individual mental health issue.

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    • Luke

      I don’t think this is a male vs female issue.

      I think many males suffer body image issues as severely as women do and it is thrust upon everyone in the media to the same degree, but yes either way something needs to be done and a more realistic expectation needs to become the norm for the greater population.

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  2. Luke

    As a personal trainer I heard a little yesterday about this program through Facebook and the like, so I made sure I went back and watched it when it was replayed.

    A lot of trainers were up in arms about the take and angle of this program.

    Muscle dysmorphia is obviously a clear condition for these and many other young men both here in Australia and abroad.

    However this program simply piled people with this condition in with a whole heap of other gym users and active Australians and touted everyone who is dedicated to a training and eating regime as an addicted freak.

    I think being active 6 days a week is something we all should strive for. Granted the 3 hours in the gym some of these young men were spending is probably a little excessive. For some it may be more a sign that they need help better formulating a more effective training plan.

    I wonder would the same fuss of been made if these were young triathletes swimming, running a cycling for 3 hours a day 6 days a week as many of them would need to to be able to complete at a high level in their chosen sport? I think not.

    I think this story did little for the fact that many Australia move far too little, exercise hardly ever and eat terribly.

    This issue of Muscle dysmorphia is a serious one. The small population of young men with this serious problem should have been the focus of this program not anyone who maintains a serious regimented training plan.

    It should have been used to shed light on this issue and helped get these young men help, particularly Farrah who seems to be moving from one unhealthy obsession to another, get the help they need.

    Bundling anyone who trains six days a week into the freak basket sends the wrong message to inactive Australians.

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    • trixie melodian

      Body building is not about getting healthy.

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    • Craig

      To be honest I would think it is great if someone is training hard for a triathlon or other sport. But to train for no purpose that other to look good seems like a total waste of time. You don’t even need to train to be generally fit and healthy.

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    • jennafelicity

      Sometimes it takes an extreme viewpoint of something for people to sit up and take notice.

      I agree that it was presented from quite a one-sided angle, but if it has sparked debate about a serious issue, isn’t that more important?

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    • LellaK

      As someone who works in sport and as an Exercise Physiologist i agree with you – but also agree that 18 hours + a week in the gym can be the starting point of something worse.
      Also not a fan of using Men’s Fitness mags as examples MamaMia – they are about training, fitness and doing it smarter. Yes the cover is of a very fit bloke – but it is a fitness mag! Just my opinion, please dont jump on me!

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  3. mish

    Its funny… I am a fashion designer and I’ve seen male and female models at their “ideal”. I’m heterosexual. I’ve dated a few models in my 20′s. Occupational hazard. But now in my 30′s… I can say without a doubt, I love a man who is comfortable in his own skin. I’m still thin and people expect me to be with a guy with ripped abs, but I honestly don’t actually like a 6 pack, or out there muscles. I can’t stand the look of chippendales. My partner weighs 100 kilos (he’s tall but still quite solid) and I adore him. I have always thought he was completely gorgeous since the day we met. And I’m around male models frequently. I just don’t find them attractive. What is attractive to me is a man who loves me and my daughter, who is loving and accepts us both. That’s sexy as anything. Who cares about a 6 pack? i sure as hell don’t.

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  4. Sarah @ The Healthy Diva

    I can definitely relate to the body image issues these guys face. A few years ago I decided to compete in the sports modeling division of a bodybuilding competition. I did put on some muscle but was then ill advised to lose about 10kg to prep for the show. I went away and came back several weeks later VERY thin. I quickly became consumed with training, and dieting and loved all the positive comments I received. But soon it turned ugly and I developed an eating disorder. It has been a long road to recovery but I can honestly say I’m in such a better place now!

    In a world where exercise and healthy eating are the promoted, it can often be difficult to detect an unhealthy obsession. For anyone who may think they have a problem with excessive exercise or disordered eating I urge you to seek help!

    Like I said, it has taken me several years to beat this ugly monster, but I’m so happy I never gave up fighting. You can read more about my journey to health here: http://the-healthy-diva.com

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  5. Louisec

    When I see men who look like this, or even relatively close, it truly rings alarm bells. I worry that they are narcissistic and may have not much better things to do than press weights.

    It says to me that their main focus in life is their muscles – how incredibly shallow. What about homelessness? Animal welfare? Poverty et al?

    I know that they think they look fantastic but, to me, and most, if not all of my friends, it’s a major turn off. They, to us, are kind of the male “princess” attitude. Way too much work.

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    • MJ

      What are you doing about homelessness, animal welfare and poverty?

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  6. Eternal Caterpillar

    MM,
    If the images in the gallery have been photoshopped (and I assume at least some have), it would be great if you could note it in the captions, as you did with the Week in Pics last week.

    For consistency’s sake, and to set the standard, it would be fantastic to see the notation made wherever it applied in your posts.

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  7. Honestly...

    This is slightly off topic, but as someone recovering from an eating disorder, it shits me to no end when people just attach “-orexia” to something that is usually about obsession. (e.g. tanorexia, and now apparently bigorexia!? etc)
    Firstly, “orexia” in medical terms is usually a suffix that indicates something is related to the condition of the appetite.

    Secondly, it almost makes the actual condition of anorexia nervosa seem like a joke, like it’s not a real mental illness.

    I don’t see why it’s necessary to use the suffix. Just call this for what it is… muscle and possibly body dysmorphia. It is a problem in its own right and doesn’t need to be grouped in with other conditions that have nothing to do with it.

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    • Rick Morton

      It’s interesting. The clinical psych I spoke to used both muscle dysmorphia and bigorexia interchangeably, I suspect because he knows that is what it takes to get the point across to people. Not everyone who wants to learn about these things wants a medical lecture.

      I included all the correct terms in the yarn up there as well. Dr Crino said bigorexia was very similar to anorexia in the mindset, in that people had a fixation on the food that went into there bodies but the former for obviously different reasons so I suspect that is the reason he uses it. I don’t think it intends to be dismissive of anorexia, merely to establish there is a bit of a link there.

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      • Mia

        Just to pipe in here, Rick and I did discuss this prior to
        posting as we expected these comments. We were confident to use the term bigorexia for the reasons he outlined above.

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        • mish

          I had a dear boyfriend (who is still a friend) who went to the gym at every opportunity. Was incredibly ripped but completely exhausted as he exercised up to 4 hours a day despite working insane hours. He ate. A lot. And also smoked pot. A lot. He was not considered anorexic or bulimic, but I truly think he suffered from an eating disorder. I don’t think its black and white. For the people complaining on here, men can have mental issues with weight too. Let’s not get lost in the technical terms. One person’s struggle is a struggle. Labels or not.

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      • tallicachild

        Just want to say:
        To Mia and Rick, I appreciate that there was prior thought and discussion into this.
        I can understand the link here between the two disorders, as they are both related to seeking that never-attainable degree of “perfection”, and a very high level of body dysmorphia.

        Although it was the psychologist who apparently coined the term before you decided to use it, I still don’t agree with the term or think it’s a good idea to use it. Just a personal opinion, but I think it sounds stupid. It sounds like “tanorexia” or “drunkorexia” – not a real condition which muscle dysmorphia most definitely is.

        Anyway, this is just a pet hatred of mine. I do want to thank the team though for raising an important issue. I’m not personally, nor do I personally know anyone, afflicted with this but it’s great that awareness is being raised about it. I understand it’s a sub-type of BDD, which I do know people afflicted with. It may be rare, but there still needs to be understanding around it so that people don’t falsely believe these mental illnesses are all about vanity. Thanks for helping to achieve that.

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    • Eternal Caterpillar

      I think it’s also just part of how we coin words. Decades ago it was decided that someone who drinks too much alcohol is an alcohol-ic. Years later, it was similarly decided that someone who works too hard is not a work-ic but a work-aholic.

      I imagine it’s because when coming up with a new word, there has to be some sort of framework for the etymology.

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      • Yes, but...

        Yes, but “holic” is a suffix that denotes addiction.

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        • Eternal Caterpillar

          Exactly. And that’s where it comes from: the word alcohol morphing into alcoholic. We don’t say alcoholholic. The suffix of holic meaning addiction arose precisely because of “alcoholic”.
          So maybe that’s what is happening here: “orexia” is coming to mean “body disorder”. I’m not saying it’s right, just that it seems to be happening, and there is a precedent.

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  8. redqueen

    That huge body builder look is such a turn off, why on earth would a guy want to look like a condom stuffed with walnuts???

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    • tallicachild

      I think you have completely missed the point of this illness.
      This is completely on par with comments about eating disorders such as “Oh my god that is so ugly. Why would a guy ever want to bang a girl who is a skeleton”.

      Body dysmorphia completely warps your perception of yourself, making you unable to judge what you look like and unable to view yourself with the same perception that everyone else does.

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      • Louisec

        Are you saying that all men who seemingly are obsessive about body build have an eating/body perception disorder? I don’t think that that can be the case and that is certainly not how I perceived it. Hence my comment above may be completely out of line.

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        • tallicachild

          No, I’m not saying “all men who seemingly are obsessive about body build have an eating/body perception disorder”.

          I’m saying men with MUSCLE DYSMORPHIA have a body perception disorder. Because that’s exactly what the illness centres around…
          And if your above comment is in relation to those who suffer from muscle dysmorphia, then yes, I think it’s completely out of line.
          But, saying that, I think your comment stems from a misunderstanding or ignorance of the illness.
          (I don’t mean this to sound rude, I’m sorry if it comes across that way!)

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  9. archie

    I’m carefully watching for bigorexia in my husband. He trains really hard and eats well but can still have a day off and a burger without a problem. He’s more concerned with function over form, though, so maybe that’s helpful?

    http://the-accidental-housewife.blogspot.com.au/

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    • Rick Morton

      That’s an important distinction, I’m told. Eating well and exercise for fitness versus the pure look of it.

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      • archie

        Good to know! Thanks Rick. I’m not overly worried, but it’s something I’m aware of.

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  10. missamoo

    I can’t find the quote but i remember when i read The Beauty Myth there was something about what she called “normative standards of beauty” and how it was like and Iron Maiden set up as an ideal for women to punish them. Interestingly while she got caned for a lot of her views the last 15 yrs or so since i read that book everything has come to pass. SHe talked about how media manipulates us (women) and how soon it would start on men and then no one wins. Well i think that little chicken just come home to roost and it makes me ill. I was at a ballet school for 2 yrs full time then i moved to the VCA i ran into a friend form those times i was 18 and as most people do we starting reminiscing but when it came to the “OH remember so and so?’ it ended with “she died of anorexia” four times in one conversation we were 18 and 19 respectively. I can’t handle it any more eat well do some exercise and it you have a little extra flab learn to live with it. Photoshop is evil. We are killing ourselves and our kids with obesity and anorexia all kinds of body dysmorphia is sending the 1st world on the road to a hell of our own making. When will we stand up and say I am beautiful because i have a big arse small waist and big boobs ?? and stop saying i am am beautiful even if my body is not perfect. You know something it is your mum made it for you, why would you reject her gift to her face as disgusting??
    Sorry i’m a little emotional today. Please please learn to love yourself, i knowi am trying

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  11. bee

    Eeeppp I find this such a hard one! As a former personal trainer I totally understand the lifestyle and commitment these guys and girls have. Some call it unhealthy and obsessed, others call it dedicated. I also think the SBS program was a little one sided and the men they interviewed all stemmed from one stereotype. Obviously there are people out there who have an unhealthy addiction to working out etc but I find this an uncomfortable subject to debate because I know so many intelligent, healthy and “unobsessed” body builders (both male and female) who are just commited to their training and love to exercise.

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  12. Trog

    Jeez, got a couple of new slogans for A&F:

    Abercrombie & Fitch: Yes, there’s no hair on my pitch.

    Abercrombie & Fitch: No pubes above the stitch.

    Do you think they’ll fly?

    Ben Fordham will be able to swan around in that pair of jeans in the not so distant future.

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  13. Ella

    There is no such thing as “bigorexia”, same as there is no such thing as “drunkorexia”. They all fit in the Anorexia/Bulimia/EDNOS & body dysmorphic disorders scale.

    PLEASE media, start to take responsibility. How can people actually take eating disorders; a serious & life threatening mental illness; seriously when the media shies away from the proper names?

    As a side note, it’s hilariously imappropriate that the first ad which shows up in the MM directory on the side is Fernwood.

    I would so love for MM to actually talk about eating disorders in males seriously. I’ve been happy with the other articles on eating disorders which have stayed close to facts & not strayed into this dangerous “let’s make up a name that ends in rexia & term it the ‘new thing’ territory”.

    MM, set an example.

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    • Shan

      At the same time, the DSM-IV-TR, which I assume you are referring to, has long been criticised (internally and externally) for its diagnositc criteria, and that the categories are not really inclusive of various types of eating disorders.
      By the media referring to the different types of issues that are increasingly being recognised, is probably a service.
      The DSM is up for revision and the latest edition is due out soon. Who knows what terms will be used!

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    • Rick Morton

      Actually Ella, that’s what the clinical psychologist called it when we spoke to him.

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  14. The wounded bull

    Funny thing is, men want massive muscles yet women say they dont like that in men, and women want to be thinner, and men dont want that in women. Aren’t we a strange lot.

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    • AJ

      So true!

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    • Rose

      …Possibly because while we think appearance is about attracting a mate (which in evolutionary terms it is), nowadays, women compete with women, and men compete with men?

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    • Kateateight

      Actually, and I only want to be honest here, not trying to be contrary for no reason – but huge numbers of men are attracted to slimmer women, (unfortunately or not).

      But I guess what you might mean is super-skinny women, rather than slim women in general?

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      • The wounded bull

        I think the male ideal woman has many more curves than a women’s ideal body (men love natural, healthy, curvy women), just as the female ideal man is manly, without looking like his skin is about to burst (like an unpricked sausage).

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        • Karenagain

          I think it is very strange to say “men love” or “women love” as if you know what EVERYONE loves

          I think it is more accurate to say

          “men I know love”
          “some men love”
          “many men love”
          “I love”

          not just “men love”

          you don’t know that.

          Although this site loves the – real women have real curves – line, so I’m sure your comment will get lots of likes!

          Many of which will be from – shock and surprise – curvy, ‘natural’ women!

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          • Louisec

            I am just not so sure about these supposed men who “love curvy women”. They say they do, because that’s the right thing to say. But in reality I don’t think that most do.

            I know that there are some men who really do love curvy women but I think they are the exception. Which is really sad.

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            • the wounded bull

              Anyone that knows me in here knows I dont say anything because it is the ‘right’ thing to say. But as a man that has spent a life time talking to other men, i can say that the thin ideal that women aspire to is not curvey enough for most red blooded blokes. Take it from a red blooded bloke ok.

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            • Steven

              Louise, I think the issue is the term “curvy”.

              I suspect that when men say “curvy”, they are referring to a very slim body shape with big boobs and a nice bum (like Sofía Vergara). When women say curvy, they mean overweight (which usually adds some kgs to the boobs in addition to the rest of the body).

              I find curvy 1 attractive. I do not find curvy 2 attractive. I’m not saying that I’m the rule though – that’s just my personal preference. I’ll note that it’s my preference because overweight suggests to me that the woman (or overweight man) doesn’t value/prioritise their health in the same way that I do, and that’s not attractive to me.

              I’d be interested to know if other men agree with me about this distinction.

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        • missamoo

          or a condom full of walnuts (not being mean it was just something that always made me giggle) what a visual!!

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      • mish

        My friend is a size 14. I’m a size 8. They always gravitate towards her- its her self confidence that gets the notice. I’ve been a size 4 previously (weighing 43 kilos at the time) and no man was interested. But gaining a bit of weight I’ve had a lot more interest! Not because of my weight per se, but because of confidence. And energy. I could barely lift a cup to my mouth when I was 43 kilos. No judgement to naturally slim women at all. I’m one of them, having never been bigger than a size 12 just after I had my baby, but generally a size 6-8. Just generally IMO men like a woman who is healthy and happy. Be it a size 4 or a size 14.

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    • Guest

      Ummm….go back a few posts to the one on Ben Roberts-Smith. Pleeenty of women (me so included) looked at the picture of the muscled man in the pool and went ‘I’ll have that.

      I like muscles. I like a fit body. What I don’t like is the metro body fit look, i.e. I’ve shaved my chest so you can see the muscles better. Maybe that’s what some women find off putting? Not the muscles, but the way they are shown off?

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      • Louisec

        The huge difference is that in his profession, a SAS soldier, he warrants having that physic (sp?). It goes with the job.

        These other men don’t, they are strictly doing it for vanity reasons and women naturally know this. Hence the turnoff.

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      • Craig

        Ben is totally ripped but doesn’t look like someone who works out for the look. He just looks like someone who lifts cars for a living.

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