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heather armstrong1 380x487 I CANT: this is what depression feels like

Heather Armstrong from Dooce.com

This is the speech that Heather Armstrong delivered at the ribbon cutting ceremony for a new unit at the University Neuropsychiatric Institute. It is reprinted from her website with her kind permission.

If you suffer from or know anyone that suffers from depression you need to read this and pass it along. In fact even if depression hasn’t touched your world, please read and share it anyway because one day it might….

“I remember the first conversation I had with someone about my mental health. I was seventeen, too young at the time to understand that it was actually my mental health and not some character flaw that made it impossible to tackle the simplest of problems. My life was filled with the normal stress that a senior in high school endures — papers, tests, acne, ill-fitting bras — but my reaction to that stress was to panic. Everything felt completely out of control, so I stopped eating to prove that I could control something.

That’ll show me!

Eventually that self-inflicted starvation turned into binging and purging, and I was smart enough to know that I didn’t want to continue living that way. Smart enough, and well, when you throw up as much as I was throwing up the blood vessels around your eyes start to explode. Good times!

I knew I couldn’t make myself stop. I knew I’d need major help. My mother had started to notice my change in behavior, because she is a mother, and mothers can be four states away from you and notice a change in your mood. I knew I could turn to her. It was my father we would have to convince.

In a parking lot outside an industrial office complex on Union Ave in Memphis, Tennessee, I sat in the passenger seat of a beige Ford Taurus trying to come up with the words to explain to my father why I wanted to talk to a therapist.

“When you’re hungry, you just eat,” my father said to me. “And then when you’re not hungry, you don’t eat.” A few uncomfortable seconds passed before he asked, “Does that not make sense to you?” As if this notion had never occurred to his soon to be valedictorian daughter.

The only thing I could say in return was, “I can’t.”

I can’t.

If there were ever two words to describe what depression feels like.

He let me see that therapist, begrudgingly, and in the next several months I regained most of my ability to see food like a normal human being (“When you’re hungry, you just eat!”)

But then I left home for Utah and started my Freshman year in college. Too tired and stressed by course work to turn to my old habits, I just gained a lot of weight. And called my mother in tears three times a day. She probably remembers it as three times an hour, but let’s just say that I come by my ability to exaggerate naturally.

Every stress sent me into a fit of tears. I couldn’t look at any problem, however big or small, as being anything less than The End of The World. My mother called this my death spiral. For example, I didn’t ace a Calculus test, therefore I would not be able to get a well-paying job and would end up homeless where I would catch pneumonia and die.

The grocery store was out of my favorite kind of cereal: homelessness, pneumonia and death.

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..with dogs Coco and Chuck

This cheery attitude continued into the second semester of my sophomore year when one day the anxiety was so bad that after one too many slammed doors my roommates expressed that they were worried about me. And then, I, valedictorian of high school and winner of several scholarships, decided that I didn’t want to go to class. Ever again. I called my parents to give them the good news.

“Hi, Mom. Hi, Dad. Yeah, do you think you could buy me a plane ticket to go home? This college thing isn’t working out. I’d pay you back but I’m going to be homeless, catch pneumonia, and die.”

According to my dad, here I was pulling this trick again. Isn’t it cute when she pretends that she just can’t buck up and be in a better mood? My mother, one of nine kids and the only one of her siblings who hasn’t been diagnosed with bi-polar disorder (she claims she was adopted, I say Granny Boone got freaky with the mailman. LISTEN, Granny Boone may be dead, but I guarantee you that if she were sitting here she would totally high five me for that one), she kindly reminded my father about my DNA. He knew they were crazy, he just didn’t want to believe this about his own daughter. Hadn’t he raised me better than this?

I often wondered if fathers of diabetics thought the same thing, “Seriously! Why can’t you just regulate your insulin LIKE A NORMAL PERSON.”

I tell you all of this because I write a website about my life and it includes the story of how I spent four days in this very hospital battling postpartum depression. The success of this website can be traced linearly right back to those four days because so many of my readers want to know they are not alone and that they are not freaks. You could say that my father prepared me for the uphill battle it is to destigmatize mental illness.

It goes a little something like this: crazy people are allowed to joke about being crazy. Non-crazy people, not so much.

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Heather today with her husband Jon Armstrong and daughters Marlo and Leta

Because so often any and all of my opinions have been written off as the moronic musings of that woman who spent time in a psych ward. I am that woman who takes crazy people pills. People don’t joke about me being on my period, they joke about me being off of my meds.

Yes, I take medication. I will always take medication. And yet, I run a successful business. I wrote a book that made the New York Times bestseller list. Forbes named me one of the most influential women in media. 1.5 million people follow me on Twitter. And I will stand here and tell you that all of that success was made possible because of those meds. Am I crazy to admit that? It doesn’t matter.

All of that was made possible because one morning in late August of 2004 as my husband was leaving for work I said, “If you go I will not be here when you come back.” Postpartum depression had brought me face to face with suicide, and I had planned to carry it out that day.

Those who work here at UNI know how many patients come through that front door, how many times they have to turn people away because there just isn’t enough room. On that specific day in August 2004 there was only room enough in the locked unit of the hospital. The locked unit where people are so crazy that I am not even allowed to make fun of their crazy, and y’all. I AM CRAZY.

It was scary as hell, but I will tell you this. Had that bed not been available I would not be alive today.

UNI, and more specifically, Dr. Lowry Bushnell, and even more specifically, Prozac, Valium, and Neurontin saved my life. It all started with that available bed.

Last year I got to speak to the audience who had gathered here to witness the groundbreaking on this new unit here at UNI, this unit that provides 80 more life-saving beds, 80! That’s one, two three, four… EIGHTY! So you have to understand the immense hope I feel for so many people as I stand here today outside the completed building, hope for the people whose lives will be saved by those beds.

Congratulations to the community here at UNI for this incredible success. And thank you for making my own success possible.”

Have you suffered from depression, or do you know someone who has? What has helped you to overcome it or deal with it?

If you need immediate help, you can contact:

Lifeline – 13 11 14
Suicide Call Back Service – 1300 659 467
Kids Helpline – 1800 55 1800
MensLine Australia – 1300 78 99 78

SANE Australia has fact sheets on mental illness as well as advice on getting treatment. Visit www.sane.org or call 1800 18 SANE (7263).

You can also visit beyondblue: the national depression initiative (1300 22 4636) or the Black Dog Institute, or talk to your local GP or health professional.

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  1. Brooke {Slow Your Home}

    I was diagnosed with PND this year, after the birth of our second baby.

    Intensive treatment, medication and a huge amount of personal work have seen me feel more like myself than I think I ever have. I’m slowly reducing my medication now, and can say I feel like I’m coming out the other side – stronger, happier and wiser.

    http://www.slowyourhome.com/2011/09/28/my-story/

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  2. Sazza

    My mother and 2 sisters have all had mental health problems in the past and as much as I would like to understand it, I am unable to.
    I like to find the problem and then come up with a solution. And then eveything should be fine, shouldnt it?
    I sometimes wonder how we are related as I always feel like saying Get over It, but I dont. I just think it.
    I just dont get it and I know it would help if I could.

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  3. clairem

    Thank you for posting an article from the Dooce website. Heather is a true inspiration to us all. Her books are awesome too. It’s made me not fear for my mental stability when it comes to childbirth.

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  4. Tallulah

    I’m in a weird postiion. I get the inexplicable-depression ting. I just don’t get the type where you do have a reason to be depressed; life circumstances have made you so (and anyone else in your position would be depressed as well). As such, nothing I’ve ever read or seen about depression has been even remotely helpful.

    My mother stays in bed all day and has done shit all with her life for the last 2 years or so. Everyone has tried to help, offered to help, given her contacts, advice, suggestions. I suggest to her to do the most simple things. “But I’m depressed.”
    “That’s not really an excuse, mum…”
    “Yes it is.”

    And I can’t work out if she’s being weak and lazy or it’s a normal and legitimate response from a depressed person – or a mixture of both? Surely it’s not normal to MILK your mental illness for all it’s worth?

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  5. jackiefairfull

    Thank you for posting this speech! I totally appreciate Heather’s description of “I can’t.” My meds have helped me regain a sense of normality back into my life. They help me get through each day with clarity, energy and more often than not, a smile. I didn’t have any of that before, but I put on a pretty damn good front so people do get a shock when I tell them about my experiences. I am lucky to have an extremely understanding and supportive husband and I know my parents can see the difference in me. They have a daughter with depression and a bi-polar son. They don’t always understand but are accepting and supportive and most of all always there.

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  6. lisajensen

    “What have you got to be depressed about?” This common belief that depression has to have an external cause is perhaps one of the most dangerous and isolating factors of depression. As an undiagnosed (and uneducated) teenager and young adult, this was the reaction of a lot of my friends, and made me feel I couldn’t turn to them for support. How do you explain something to someone that you don’t understand yourself? The more we can educate people to understand what is happening to them, or the people close to them, the less isolating it will be and the more likely they will seek the treatment they need.

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  7. missamoo

    I come from a whole bunch of crazy and a few times in my life i have been told i have to be careful about depression. I am so glad that people share their stories and show us all that we all need help sometimes. I just wish the last 3 employers who fired me for “bringing my stuff to work” had had a little empathy for this and my attempts to regain my eqilibrium

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  8. anna84

    Thanks for publishing this article. whilst i haven’t had mental health problems myself, my brother has recently been diagnosed with schizophrenia. He’s been suffering bouts of depression since childhood but recently things have become worse. I often worry about him and about his future. I find it hard to understand how he’s feeling but all I can do is love and support him. Luckily our family are supportive and my Mum is very understanding and helpful of his problems. I couldn’t imagine how things would be for him if we can from a family without this kind of support.
    Believe it or not mental health issues are actually handled very well in Australia compared to many other parts of the world (even though they could definitely be improved). I used to live In China where mental health is still a HUGE taboo, there is no disability pension and mental institutions still exist. Many families can’t handle the shame of having a child with mental health problems and simply lock them away. Or else they run away from home and end up on the streets. One of my friends went to the doctor nd told him she was suffering from depression. He told her there was nothing he could do and she’ll just have to live with it. It’s very sad. Thank God things are a lot better for us here in Australia.
    Thanks to all the readers below who shared their stories…my heart goes out to you, I wish you well on your journey :)

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  9. redhossy

    God I love Heather (and Dooce). Always have, always will.

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  10. guest

    Thank you for this great post. As a mother of a now young man who has suffered from clinical depression for officially 4 years now, anything that raises awareness is a blessing. I have had various people ask me simple questions such as “what has he got to be depressed about?” and “why can’t he just be happy”, and these attitudes make it difficult to open up as a parent when trying to explain how my son is going. I have often confided in those who do make the effort to truly understand that if my son had diabetes, our friends and family would be sympathetic and supportive, but telling people that your son has depression, brings stares, silence, the odd “oh”, and very occasionally a perosn who does try to understand and be supportive. Sadly, most people simply don’t know what to say and would rather not know.

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  11. christinecope

    Thank you SO much for publishing this article; the more we speak out about this awful illness, the better. I’m 53 and have suffered with clinical depression since I was in my early teens.

    When we get so down that we contemplate suicide, it’s real and it’s because we simply don’t know what to do and simply want to escape the overwhelming feelings.

    Additionally, people sometimes remark that it’s a very selfish act. It’s not, we feel that people would be better off if we were not around.

    Often, we don’t want to burden others by sharing our feelings and have no-where to turn.

    More help and resources must be made available to everyone suffering from depression.

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    • savannahofaus

      Thank you Christine, you’ve articulated it perfectly.

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    • Anonymous

      I second that Savanna, Christine is spot on

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  12. guest

    my mum has been depressed for a very long time since i can remember really ! she gambles lies! depressed has pannick attacks ! and basically freak me out as a young child !
    i have always been strong as i am the eldest child but sometimes it gets all a bit too hard :(
    My dad is a very strong man and has basically held our family toghether i thank him so much for this !
    i have tried to help my mother , i really think the only person that can help yourself is you from what i have seen over the years is yourself !

    depression is not a widely talk about topic ! it can affect your whole family ! tear families apart etc etc but my philosophy is lifes to short after seeing what my mother has gone through just smell the roses its hard but thats life hey !

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  13. erinsy

    I was diagnosed with severe depression, anxiety issues and post traumatic stress disorder about 5 years ago. However, im only 24 and I dont remember ever not feeling this way.
    After 5 years of intense therapy, full on medication, self harming and suicide attempts, I am only just now beginning to see that maybe things will be ok. And thats a big maybe…
    We need to talk about it, people need to understand that depression is real, is common, and is life threatening.
    Some days it’s too hard to get out of bed. some days I would cut myself to stop the pain or the numbness of my mind…
    But now, I have more good days then bad, I see that I have improved.
    There is light at the end of the tunnel, this shall pass. Get help, from anywhere you can. Friends, family, teachers, an insightful blog.
    Headspace is a great resource.
    sometimes its not about beating the black dog, but learning to accept him and teach him to heal.

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  14. Anonymous for this....

    What a wonderful article…so poignant, so personal, so intensely true.

    I too have long battled with mental illness and can so relate to the comment about people’s lack of understanding being comparable to asking a diabetic to regulate their own insulin.

    Having a mental mental illness means you simply can’t control your serotonin levels, your moods or your reactions. Medication is as vital to our daily survival as is ventolin to an asthmatic or insulin to a diabetic.

    And no, we don’t simply ‘grow out of it’ nor is it ‘just a bad patch’. As with other chronic illnesses it is something you have to manage every day for the rest of your life. There are times of respite, times of decline and despair, but there is never a time when you can consider yourself ‘normal’.

    For me, my parents can now see that I exhibited signs of my illness as young as 3 or 4…I have lived with this for 30 years and will continue to live with it for another 30 years or more.

    That does not mean I am incapable of happiness, or successfully functioning in society, of forming functional relationships, but it does mean my reality is that I will probably always need the little white pills to help me to do all the things others take for granted.

    I have finally come to a place of peace with my illness….I no longer hate myself for it, I no longer consider myself weak or sub-standard. I no longer fight the doctors who try to help me or take myself off my medication because I ‘feel better’.

    It is a part of who I am. It is a part of who I will always be. Accepting that has allowed me to finally manage the highs and the lows and know that it is ok to be who I am….however imperfect that may be.

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    • amyfizzer

      Thank you..you’ve just given me the best way of explaining depression to a “non-believer” that I’ve had. Thank you.

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    • Anonymous

      Thanks, you have inspired me to go and get back onto medication. I went off because I felt better in April. And have been struggling ever since. I stopped also because I wanted to have a child, but the way things are right now, that probably won’t happen anyway.

      I’ve had a very bad time the last few weekends . PMS is highly exaggerated too.

      I can describe it as feeling so uncontrollable. You feel so unable to talk or be pleasant to other people. The same thought tumbles through your mind, even while you know things are and can be ok, it feels like envy thing is falling apart. And then, suddenly, a switch flicks and you feel fine. And wonder what, how, why?

      I’ve been trying diet to help ( less alcohol and sugar), but I think it might be time to accept, I might just have to stay on those little pills.

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  15. Amy

    Oh Heather, THANK YOU! “I can’t” really does help explain how I felt for many years (and still sometimes now).

    Every situation is different, there are so many different types and levels of depression, but they all have one thing in common: that wretched feeling of hopelessness, despair or I can’t do it-ness, and the feeling that it will never go away. For those who have not had it go away yet, I’m thinking about you, and hope it does for you, one day.

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  16. Flowers in the spring

    The provision of mental health resources is appalling. I work with young adults and find it particularly difficult to support them in accessing the care that they need. According to research from the ANU 1:4 young people will have an episode of depression or anxiety by age 19. Yet we have a ratio of 1 counsellor to 950 students in ACT schools and service provision outside of schools is woefully inadequate. Young people in particular find transport a barrier. Youth suicide rates are currently increasing. With the situation as is I really do despair for our young people.

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  17. anon

    No wonder people don’t want to admit to depression if ..as Heather says..it means you are CRAZY. What constitutes crazy. Like someone said..there are different forms of depression. I have and do suffer from depression..but i wouldn’t consider myself crazy. :)

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  18. Eloise

    What a great article. Thanks for posting this, it’s so important to increase awareness.

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  19. Louisec

    One of the major issues of depression is the vast misunderstanding of the various types. They all have different symptoms, depths, treatment requirements etc.

    It is crucial that people start to understand that depressions are different.

    Clinical Depression is simply a serotonin deficiency and requires medication, usually ongoing, to regulate. This is the most serious form of depression and often starts in childhood.

    Situational depression is depression following an event ie; marriage break up, death of a loved one etc. This is more short term & can benefit from either or medication, councelling.

    The lack of awareness of types of depression is what makes community understanding of depression so difficult.

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  20. Susan

    I have just this minute finished reading ‘A helping hand with life’ by Cynthia Morton with tears flowing freely down my cheeks.Then I read this article.
    I want to race out and buy this for all to read.It offers a helping hand with our emotional health from Cynthia who writes of a very personal journey and her discovery of the use of language to build courage and self esteem.
    Emotional health and mental health granted are not the same though the 2 I feel are somewhat blurred at times.
    Hence why I think this book is an amazing manual for everyone to have in life’s toolbox.
    The more we can share our own experiences and have access to a compassionate,understanding and loving community surely the less suffering, in painful silence will anybody need to endure alone.

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  21. oliveblanche

    I suffer from depression and anxiety. I can’t remember ever not having it. It is in my family too but never really spoken about and always hidden. I’m so lucky I have my sister in law. She has similar issues and we can talk open and honest about our illness. We joke about it all the time ( so true that crazy people can joke together but anyone else better not :p) it’s an amazing feeling telling someone a story of a time you felt a certain way and went totally crazy and having them say “omg I so know what you mean!” we don’t have to feel ashamed or embarrassed because it’s an illness and it is not who we are. It’s hard to be around people who say things like “oh you should be more positive”. Or if you think positive you will have a good life or my current anger inducing statement. “if you have a shit life it’s cos your a shit person!” I had to breathe through the rage on that one! I have someone who totally gets it and I wish and I hope other suffers out there can find that too. It’s an amazing feeling! :)

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  22. tarnee

    Thanks for a great post MM.
    I have to admit that until I suffered from depression myself I really didn’t get it. Whilst I would never have said to someone they should just “snap out of it” or similar, I was probably guilty of thinking in the back of my mind that they just needed to be a bit stronger. It was only after being diagnosed myself that I realised how debilitating it is and how it can completely overwhelm you, both physically and mentally.

    I went from being the one who was always strong, organised and involved in everything, to being completely overwhelmed by the smallest things. The final moment of realisation (after many awful days and experiences) was when I was attempting to count out sushi rolls for school lunches and I simply could not do it. I felt like bursting into tears because I couldn’t remember the numbers from one second to the next and kept having to recount the bags constantly! It seems quite bizarre to me now but at the time I just literally could not do it. I still have no idea if those kids got the right lunches that day!

    Depression is about being unable to do things, not about not wanting to. When you are in that space you can’t just “cheer up” no matter how much you want to.

    I have only shared my experience with some family and friends as I know many people do not know what to do or say. The very first friend who I spoke to said “you’re not depressed you’re just a bit stressed”. A family member said ” I’ve never had that problem – I guess you’re not as strong as me”. At the time I found these comments quite devastating but I understand that they just didn’t get it at the time.

    All I can say is, if you think a friend or family member has depression ask them how they are and then really listen to what they say. Please don’t judge or offer opinions about how they could feel better – just ask them if you can do anything and give them lots of love and support. Hopefully you can help them on their journey back.
    (Apologies for the long post but it a subject close to my heart at the moment.)

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  23. lauren91

    I’ll admit I didn’t really understand what it was like to have depression. I probably wasn’t as understanding as I could be because of that. So thank you, that was so engaging, so insightful and so honest. If more people would read/listen to speeches like this from people who have experienced depression, I think people’s tolerance and understanding would increase tenfold.

    And I’m on meds for life for something else now too. Took me a while to accept it, because it’s a pain in the ass, but I know the consequences of not taking them is a whole lot worse than popping a few pills twice a day :D

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  24. julieparker

    Whenever a prominent person speaks about an experience like this I’m so grateful as I know it will undoubtedly help someone. It may prompt them to get support themselves or even just feel less alone. It’s great that Heather is well now but I do admit to finding it interesting that she was so open about having depression, but did not also state she had an eating disorder which in fact was her intial primary concern. I’m not sure why that would be but it adds to the complexity of how many people regard those with mental health concerns. We have come a long way (thank God) but boy do we still have a long way to go.

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  25. elli

    I can’t either.

    In hindsight I’ve probably been prone to depression and anxiety (mostly Social) for most of my life. My particularly clueless 5th grade teacher once took me aside and told me not to be so serious all the time. I nodded, I think, but the correct answer should have been “I can’t”.

    I’ve had bouts of depression since then – 15 years ago Dad died suddenly and a number of other stresses (only a few of which I can now remember) all coincided; my mother needed me to be strong for her and only person who got me through it all was my then-boyfriend. 6 years later he informed me he was leaving me for someone else, and I had another bout. I took St Johns Wort for a while and I can say it probably saved my life. It wasn’t nearly strong enough, but I didn’t have the courage or insight to admit to myself that I was depressed and needed help – it was, however, probably the difference between making hypothetical plans of how I’d end it, “not that I will”, and actually doing so. (By the way, I don’t think that the word ‘suicide’ should be used in articles or advertising; it’s such a loaded term that, although I thought about my own death every day, I convinced myself that the S word only applied to those who actually attempted it.)

    A year ago, I started having unprompted flashbacks of those previous thoughts of death and, this time, decided I’d get help early. My wonderful new boyfriend asked me to think about the possibility I might be depressed, but I immediately answered with a Yes and made a doctor’s appointment. She prescribed Zoloft and, a few weeks later when they’d started to have an effect, referred me to a psychologist. Best. Damn. Thing. I’ve. Ever. Done.

    I still get down days and anxious times, sometimes for no reason, but my overall mood is better than it has been in a very long time. I think I’ll be on meds for a long time, although I’m yet to convince my doctor of that (she wants me to start weaning off them soon, but the thought freaks me out).

    Thank you for writing this.

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  26. jasonsnelders

    This gave me a slight chill down the spine as I read it. You probably won’t be able to understand if you have haven’t personally faced depression or gone anywhere near the thoughts of suicide – I’ve done both.

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  27. Kaybell

    Thank you so much guys for posting such a fantastic article.
    Heather is one incredible lady.

    I am receiving treatment for my Depression. It was a long time and strung out process before I was properly diagnosed.
    I remember the days of “I can’t” – It honestly felt like “I can’t… stop crying, sleep, stop oversleeping, get out of bed, exercise, get dressed, eat, stop this feeling of complete helplessness and lack of control.

    I pushed myself back out there socially, I learned about acceptance and not personalising things, I worked through things that were triggers for the depression or subconscious things that were of a hinderance to my recovery with a qualified Psychologist. I joined an Adult Education class, exercised which helped me to regain some feeling of control, stayed on my meds and kept up with counselling.
    The correct medication is absolutely vital to someone’s recovery I feel, combined with counselling.
    Here I am 3 years later, healthier and more capable than I could have ever imagined being when I was in the deep deep hole of depression.

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  28. kimmurphy

    Three cheers for Heather Armstong. What a fantastic speech!

    I suffer from recurring bouts of depression and will most likely take medication for the rest of my life. I’m happy to do this because my medication enables me to live my best life. (Experience shows I’m okay without it for six months or so, but the black dog eventually comes back and nips me on the heels.)

    For me, the best way to deal with depression has been to accept it’s something I’m prone to and seek treatment. In the past I’ve not recognised my depression and made life far more difficult than it needed to be. This wasn’t because I was embarrassed or ashamed – it was because I didn’t have the perspective to recognise I was unwell.

    Most recently my husband helped me see the light when I was unwell and encouraged me to visit our GP, who was incredibly helpful and supportive. No stigma – just love, patience, encouragement, humour and acceptance.

    I’m now five months pregnant and we’ve flagged PND as something we need to watch out for. But I’m confident it won’t be a problem – if it is, I’ve got good backup.

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  29. detachableprincess

    I have never suffered from depression, but I reckon I came damn close when LittleDude was a baby. I don’t know if it was actually PND, or just months and months of having about 4 hours of (broken) sleep each night. I was cranky, moody, disorganised and a general mess. I remember sobbing down the phone to P-Daddy one day “I don’t know, I don’t know I don’t know”. “What don’t you know?” “I don’t knoooowwwww”.

    To those who have actual depression, I wish you the best of luck. My small taste of it was bad enough.

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  30. Greg

    Thank you for reprinting this story.

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  31. robnlee

    Great story, brave lady. Most people would not dare going public, as very few understand.
    Depression can hit anyone anytime. And there is often no particular trigger. Although in my case, it was a redundancy and no work. My daughter is diagnosed bi-polar and copes well now on medication and therapy, but we struggled with her for a while sometime back. And my wife has had bouts . So the old “remedy” – just get over it! does not work ever.

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  32. Megg

    Recently a friend told me how her mother doesn’t talk to another of her friends (let’s call her Sally) because she was “offended” when Sally suggested that we keep an eye out for signs of PND after her first baby arrived…”
    Offended”????
    This woman was offfended at the possibility of her daughter having to deal with PND? If Sally had suggested that we keep an eye out for signs of skin cancer (this fair skinned family does have a history of skin cancer) would her mother have seen that as insulting, or would she have seen it as a gesture of love and care?
    Truly, we have a LONG way to go before the stigma of mental illness is addressed and we can actually help the people in our lives.
    Thankyou Mamamia for posting this.
    Mx

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  33. Claire

    I live with my mother who sees a psych who is now her friend. She always says she ‘can’t’ and closes off all the time. My dad enables her. No one will help her and she doesn’t believe in medication. This post is a cry for help from a loving daughter who wants her mother, father and psych to acknowledge and treat. My mother is suffering and she won’t let me in and her absence is destroying her chances to fulfil her potential of having a healthy marriage, and positive relationship with me, my husband and my children. Her distance has caused me so much pain and am I stupid to think this could be fixed with meds or do I just have to put up with the major downs and short-lived false ups?

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    • em

      i obviously don’t know your mother at all, but unfortunately i have to say i was definitely and totally “fixed” with meds. the problem is, it took a long time for me to accept that i needed meds but once i did, i wanted to kick myself for not having done it sooner.

      it’s the hardest thing when you know someone that isn’t ready or willing to accept help in that way. the best you can do is try to talk to your mum and convince her that this is an “illness” of the mind, a purely physical illness, a chemical imbalance that needs correcting. as the article says, we really need to start knowing that depression is an illness that needs medicating just as cancer or any other condition does!

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    • Anonymous

      I am currently dealing with mental health issues of my own and with multiple members of my family.

      I have been reminded that you can’t ‘make’ someone do something you want. If your mum has been advised about meds but doesn’t want them there’s not a lot you can do to get her to take them.

      You might find it helpful to see a psychologist yourself, to gain advice and to work through the pain you are feeling.

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    • I hear you!

      Hey Claire,
      Both my parents are affected with this illness, although my mum enables my father who is alot worse. They are both on meds and they are still dysfunctional and miserable to be around. Very painful for us kids. I’m not saying meds won’t help but they need to be taken in conjunction with doing other pro-active activities- which my parents do none of. I guess what I’m saying is I’ve had to get some therapy myself to get through this and accept that I can do more…I have my own family now and my health to focus on…they never responded to my offers of help- ever- and always left me in a dreadfully depressed state. It is super tough but you are not alone…look after yourself…that’s what I’ve learnt x

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    • Kate

      Hi Claire,

      My mum has suffered from severe mental illness throughout my entire life. The illness is infruitating, frustrating, exhasperating, overwhleming and devastating. And that’s just it’s impact on me.

      Whether your mum’s reluctance to take medication is due to a ‘lack of insight’ about her illness or a reluctance due to side effects etc it’s going to be pretty hard for you to change your mum’s mind.

      My mum takes her medication, but she’s her own worst enemy when it comes to catastrophising and negative self talk. No matter how hard I’ve tried across the years, I cannot get through to her about how damaging these habits are for her – and neither can the professionals.

      I’ve spent (and still spend) so much time being consumed about how to help mum. But I’ve had to realise, that just as if she’d had cancer, I have absolutely no power to treat/minimise/cure the illness.

      I adore my mum, we’re very close, talk all the time etc but I’ve had to realise that there is a serious liimit to what I can do. The best thing for me (and consequently her) is that I just accept that I can do nothing to help her except be a supportive daughter in the sense of ‘being a daughter’. I cannot (and should not) be her counsellor, GP, psychiatrist etc. I have to leave that to the pro’s. If she is unwell, I simply defer to them, let them know and let them do their job (even if mum isn’t allowing them to do it to the best of their capacity).

      It’s so so important that you look after yourself. Mum’s illness has had a huge negative toll on me and my own life. That is not her fault. But in the same way that any illness causes pain and stress in a family, this has. So I’d really encourage you to seek some help for yourself to reflect on the impact this is having on you. Tt will very likely help you understand your reactions to the illness and give you more insight into ways to help your mum.

      All the best xo

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      • roses

        Gosh, this is my story too. Thanks for sharing about your mum. Mine sends me bonkers with all the negative perspective. I am also super scared I will turn out like her!!

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  34. MissT

    Yes. I have no other words.

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  35. Cath

    Thank you Mamamia team for sharing this. Mental Health issues will be the silent killer of our generation and the next if we don’t address things and stop sweeping it under the rug.

    We need to accept this is a real problem and not be afraid to stand up and say I Can’t … and know that our friends and family will not look at us strange.

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  36. Secrets of motherhood

    I can’t!

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  37. micheleborghesi

    So simply, clearly and perfectly explained.
    I CAN’T
    Not, I WON’T
    I can’t simply means, I am not ABLE to. Not, I don’t want to.
    As a sufferer on and off for many years, the old “cheer up, be positive, just get up and moving” advice is not helpful on any level, ever, at all.
    All it does is make the sufferer feel more useless and guilt ridden because these are supreme challenges to the clinically depressed mind.
    All that happens is that we are left feeling defeated, inadequate, pathetic and hopeless, when yet another day passes where we were not able to be more positive and get off the couch or out of bed.
    I find the only way to move out from under the black cloud, is to list tasks I wish to achieve and set NOT ONE SINGLE deadline for any of them. I am talking basics like, get out of bed/have a shower/wash the dishes/fold and put away washing/clean a small section of my house, pay a bill, ring someone.
    If I am able to cross one of these off my list, it is an achievement and a move in to the light. If I can achieve one, sometimes I feel I can knock off more on the same day, but often, I just CAN’T.
    Removing the visceral guilt of failure is vital to overcoming depression.
    Being jollied along, cheered up, encouraged to just move and get outside and amongst it, whilst I concede is just people trying to help, only makes things worse and is of no use at all.
    It mostly makes sufferers, like me, feel annoyed, angry and more depressed because I just can’t, not WON’T…CAN’T.
    If it were that simple, I would.
    Asking “how are you?” and leaving it at that, without making any suggestions on how to fix what you do not understand, is what I truly appreciate.

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  38. Kimota

    “I often wondered if fathers of diabetics thought the same thing, “Seriously! Why can’t you just regulate your insulin LIKE A NORMAL PERSON.””

    That’s it. That’s the best line I’ve come across that sums up the misunderstanding and dismissal of depression.

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  39. LW

    Earlier this year I hit rock bottom, a Saturday night after to much alcohol & other stuff, lead me to the very bottom of a well which I think I had been sinking to for a long long time. I was one I guess the lucky ones that said right I cant do this no more, I should not feel this way, this is not right, I have a great job, great friends, I have just lost 17kgs, I should be happy why am I not. So i sucked in up and went & finally sought help. For the last six months I have been on some great meds! Thank you anti-depressnats! Is this supposed to be how you feel, I told my wonderful friends what I am feeling what I have felt (which I have never ever done before) i spoke to my parents and told them that this is how I feel and even though I had a wonderful childhood they do need to take some responsibility. The author of this article is right, even though my mother is miles away she still knows when I am not right!!!!
    So yes, admitting you are not right is the first step, and the rest just comes along.

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  40. Loulee

    Oh I love this article. Thank you for sharing Heather’s speech. She really sums things up so well. When you are down the simplest things are huge mountains to climb.

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  41. Anonymous

    Gee, timing mamamia team.

    We just lost a good friend, a lovely young man in our lives and community to depression yesterday morning. He killed himself and I am sure that he didn’t want anyone to be upset, but we all miss him more than he will know.

    Such sad, terrible waste of life from serious depression.

    I only wish that he had sought the help he needed before it came to this.

    All I can say is keep talking about depression to de-stigmatise it. Especially when it comes to men who think that getting help is a sign of terrible weakness.

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  42. Ella

    I nearly wasn’t here because there was no bed available. I’d made an attempt on my life & the hospital discharged me because there were no beds. I left, made another attempt & was lucky enough to be found by my friends & assisted by 3 strangers. Another coma & my friends fighting with medical professionals to get me a bed & I got a bed. I don’t owe my life to mental health professionals. I owe it to my friends firstly, paramedics secondly, the trauma team who resuscitated me & the intensive-care team.

    We do health so well in Australia, but mental health so poorly & it breaks my heart everytime I see it. “I can’t – this is what depression feels like” is so accurate. I remember before my attempt laying curled up in my bed losing hours to standing at the wall. Just getting out of bed to go to the bathroom was agonising. I couldn’t open my curtains. I couldn’t answer my phone. I. Just. Couldn’t. It wasn’t because I wanted to be in that place or because I liked it. Everything was just too hard, too overwhelming. I was overcome completely with thoughts of wanting to die.

    I am getting better (I write about it here http://stethescopesandivlines.wordpress.com ) but I’m terrified of ever having kids. Pregnancy hormones can send the most stable person into the abyss of depression – knowing my propensity towards it, and eating disorders, I’m not sure I’d ever be willing to risk it. Depression is the most terrifying thing I’ve ever encountered.

    Heather, you’ve very brave. Thank you for sharing your story xx

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    • Luc

      I’m glad your friends were there, and you could share your story today.

      Re pregnancy. I think you do have to take extra care, and be extra cautious about keeping an eye on creeping moments of depression. But because you have had depression in the past, it doesn’t mean you will automatically get postnatal. I had depression twice, triggered by hormone treatments, and so I thought for sure I would get postnatal. Also a control freak over achiever – wow, on paper, I was text-book. But I didn’t get it at all.
      It’s smart to be careful – and every woman needs to be careful in those months after childbirth – but don’t motherhood out, if that’s the road you want to take.

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    • MissT

      Ella you have already fought half the battle by being able to say you might suffer from PND and pregnancy-related depression. If you can identify it, we can all work together (diet, exercise, support, counselling and yes, medication) to treat it. It’s when people are too scared to say it out loud that it makes it the hardest to treat.

      I know I am the same. And I’ve already told my husband & my mother (midwife, nurse, academic) to keep an eye on me when I have kids. We all know this is what may happen to me and by knowing that, we have already won.

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    • Kaybell

      If only the Mental Health system in Australia (and especially a smaller state like TAS) managed things a bit better – you’re right Ella – so much of what the Health System does is great, unfortunately Mental health lags behind.

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  43. Mel

    I have suffered from depression in the past, and still struggle with anxiety today. Also, I blog daily but am still afraid to blog about my past and present struggles incase someone from my workpace reads it – I’m up for a promotion that I am more than suitable for but still fear that people would see depression/mental illness, think not capable/crazy and no longer consider me as a contender.
    This makes me sad that this day in age I must still live ‘in the closet’ so to speak :(

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  44. edlie

    thankyou thankyou thankyou.
    For articulating something so complex so well.
    For being brave and honest.
    Thankyou.

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  45. JFK

    The comment about the father of the diabetic is priceless and perfect. Never thought of it like that before!

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    • Guest

      Amen. I am so tired of my family not understanding my type 2 bipolar, the worst of which is the depression. Diabetes and cancer both are prevalent in my family, yet not one of my 5 siblings has taken the time to give me support when I have been depressed enough to have strong suicidal ideations. Yet they all have told me I am crazy to take steps to prevent the breast cancer that has hit 3 first degree relatives and one second degree relative.
      Would anyone like to be my family?

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      • Shannon

        I have recently been diagnosed with Bipolar 2 disorder. My psychiatrist, GP and boyfriend are amazingly supportive. The anti-depressants and mood stabilisers are allowing me to see the world through eyes that are not tainted with depression. I rarely have hypomanic episodes and am so lucky that my GP and psychiatrist are such experts in this area that they correctly diagnosed BP2 and not depression.
        Yet, I cannot tell my family and closest friends about my diagnosis…the stigma is there. I’ve worked in law enforcement, amongst other jobs, and am high functioning…I still feel that, people who require support in the area of mental health, are seen as social pariahs…someone certain people wouldn’t feel comfortable leaving their children with.
        Of course, there are degrees…if someone is suicidal, they need and should receive more intensive support than someone who has responded well to their medication/counselling/CBT etc.
        I love this author so much for being so brave and talking about what is still, in so many areas of society, a taboo subject.

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  46. loves2bake

    Thank you, Mamamia Team for continuing to post stories that aim to raise awareness of mental health and the need to destigmatize it. As someone who has suffered from emetophobia (vomiting phobia) for most of my life, and also recently been diagnosed with OCD tendancies, I understand what it is like to hide mental illness away and feel completely isolated because it’s just not something that people talk about or seem to understand. Heather is right – mental illness should be seen in the same light as diabetes – an unfortunate illness but nothing to be ashamed of or uncomfortable around. I hope that as walls are broken down more and more people will seek help or be able to support those around them that suffer, because it makes SUCH a difference.

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    • Lauren

      Great Article. Thank you for speaking so honestly.

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