With the news that Robert Hughe
s has been arrested and is likely to be charged with child sexual abuse, the horrendous nature of such crimes against children are front of everyone’s minds.
When this story first came to Mamamia, we all reeled, and you probably will too. It is raw and graphic in parts and we thought long and hard about whether to edit the more disturbing elements out.
But there’s nothing sanitised about child abuse and the details here are part of the bigger picture. We have included some points at the end that may serve as warning signs for other children who are the victim of abuse.
We hope that reading this and sharing it, will enable more of us in the community to report child abuse if we suspect something may be occurring.
WARNING: The following content includes graphic descriptions of abuse. If this is a trigger subject for you, you may want to sit this one out.
Jane* writes:
This is one of those stories that you hear, that you never think would happen to you, because you’re ‘not one of those people’ or some other excuse that seems easy.
I have two amazingly beautiful children. Both boys.
They’re eight and five. My eight-year-old is the quiet one, a thinker, sporty, very handsome, very caring. He’s very easy to talk to, but not very expressive. My younger is the opposite. Very strong willed, never stops talking, amazingly clever. Will outwit you in any argument, with eyes to kill. They are chalk and cheese, like most brothers. But they love each other dearly. They are my babies.
Their father and I split four and a half years ago, I took a 60% primary care arrangement when we split. We always kept everything civil and out of the courts. Life was less complex that way. Holidays were usually shared half and half. Week on / week off. He does this begrudgingly.
In the October school holidays last year my boys went to stay with their paternal grandparents and their 14-year-old cousin for a little over a week. I spoke to them most nights. I missed them a lot.
When they got home they started waking through the night, throwing tantrums that I wasn’t used to seeing from them. My eight-year-old would go from happy to neurotically upset over the tiniest things. I received an unprompted call from their father on a Monday night saying that something had happened whilst they were away with his parents, that their cousin had shown my 8yo how to masturbate.
I came home from work early the next day. Picked the kids up from school, had a nice afternoon tea. We talked about our day, about what we wanted to cook for dinner, and then I asked them if there was anything else they wanted to talk to mummy about. It’s amazing when you give children the opportunity to talk, and they want to talk about something, the amount of information that comes flooding out. Information that when they had tried to talk to their father, he’d shut them down and made them promise not to tell their mother.
They sat there and told me this detail of nine days of systematic abuse. Detail you never want to hear come out of a five-year-old’s mouth. Words that sound wrong coming from children. They told me how their cousin would take away all the toys, their snacks and their drinks, and would put them in the cupboard. The only way that they could have these things was by letting him play with their penis, by ‘pulling the skin that covers the blue bit’, by him playing with his penis til the white stuff came out all over them. He tried to put his penis in their bottoms. He performed and forced oral sex on them. My five- and eight-year-old children.
Yes, he did all these things whilst there were adults in the house.
Family members.
The boys were too scared to talk. He would hit them and ‘punish’ them if they tried to talk to their nanna about what was happening. He found opportune moments like early mornings, or dinner preparation time, when the only adult in the house was at the stove. He waited til it was ‘afternoon play time’ and they were sent to the rumpus room to watch movies.
No one, including their grandparents, had any idea what was going on until my boys came home. Nine days.
During that time, their other cousins came to visit on a couple of occasions also. Two girls aged four and six. Need I say more?
They tried to talk to their father, and they were shut down. Thankfully, his girlfriend is a child care worker, and as such reported the incident to DOCS. I still wonder if this is the only reason he called me to tell me something had happened, or if he would have tried to keep it swept under the rug.
DOCS contacted me within days. As did Child Protection Services, the Police, and then the Courts got involved.
I have an AVO taken out against their cousin. The parents of the girls refuse to acknowledge that anything ever happened, regardless of the statements that the girls made.My eight-year-old has become suicidal.
That sentence doesn’t sound right does it? How does an eight-year-old dwell on death? Because he feels responsible for what happened to his five-year-old brother. Because he couldn’t stop it from happening. Because the thoughts of what happened don’t belong in the head of an eight-year-old. He can’t comprehend it all. It all became too much to carry for him and his sensitive little soul.
They say that my eight-year-old has been groomed for the last couple of years. That his cousin has been showing him porn magazines, asking him leading questions, getting him comfortable with the idea. They also think that he’s been abused himself, probably by his mother and step-father. To me, this doesn’t make it ok. It doesn’t make it understandable. I still feel no compassion towards that 14-year-old boy, even knowing that perhaps he’s been through hell himself. All it does is begin to explain how a child of 14 can be so twisted.
The last six months have been tough. The boys are traumatized and they are in weekly counselling. This is provided by specialist child protection counsellors. They are great. Really really great. The detectives that I dealt with, I cannot regard highly enough. Everyone constantly whinges about the police, but these ladies, I take my hat off to them. What they see daily, how they help families, families that are falling apart due to something completely out of their control.
The boys live with me full time now. They’re finally starting to settle. They’re starting to be children again. Happy children. Even my eight-year-old is on the road to being a happier child.
I was rebuilding a family with a new man. That relationship has fallen apart. That makes me incredibly sad. He is gone. The pressure on our relationship was too great, for many reasons. There is no fault in this.
In my mind, I’m the strong one. The one who has to hold it all together so that my boys can see that there is light at the end of the tunnel. Life does go on. My boys can get over this, and not repeat the actions that have been so cruelly pushed on to them in such an unjust and unfair way.
Me? I’m terrified. I don’t talk about it; how terrified I am. Not to anyone. I don’t have that right. People don’t understand. I can’t sit down over a cup of coffee with a girlfriend and begin to explain. There is no common ground to be able to empathise on. It is a very lonely feeling.
I wrote this all down for two reasons. Not for pity or understanding. I wrote it so that maybe, somehow, someone reads this and knows that they are not on their own having lived through something similar. I wrote this so that if you see some odd behaviour, rather than disregarding it, you might think back to the story of my children and put a stop to it. Please. Children are so very precious.
Secondly, I wrote this to get it off my chest, so that it’s no longer just thoughts that I have to keep to myself. Sharing this with those who choose to read it – that’s not going to make it go away, but it might help me be a better, stronger mother. It might help in some small way, somehow. Writing is therapeutic.
Thank you for listening.
If you are concerned about the welfare of a child you can get advice from The Child Abuse Prevention hotline on: 1800 688 009 or visit http://www.childabuseprevention.com.au/ or call The Child Abuse Report Line on: 131 478 (Open 24 hours).
You may want to share this with your friends:
According to the VIC Better Health website:
5 Possible signs of sexual abuse
The main message from survivors is about the importance of paying attention to children’s behaviour. If children are being sexually abused, there may be physical signs such as bleeding from the vagina or anus (back passage), sexually transmitted infections (STIs) or poor hygiene. However, signs in a child’s behaviour are more likely. These include:* Significant changes in behaviour, aggressive behaviour or regression to an earlier stage of development (for example bedwetting)
* Sexual behaviour that is not appropriate to the child’s age
* Depression or social withdrawal
* Getting into trouble at school (sometimes to avoid going home)
* Self-harming behaviours (for example self-mutilation, suicide attempts or prostitution).Talking with children about abuse
If the child appears to be under stress, encourage them to talk. Children will often tell little bits of information at a time to test the reactions of adults. To help a child who is being abused to talk about it, it’s important to:* Encourage the child to tell you about what is happening.
* Stay calm and listen. Gently ask what happened next rather than asking why.
* Don’t rush the child.
* Reassure them that they have done nothing wrong.
* Be supportive and let them know you believe them.
* Don’t tell them you will keep it a secret.
If you believe the child may be being abused, report your concerns immediately to the appropriate person in your own organisation and the Child Protection Service. If you are concerned about the welfare of a child you can get advice from The Child Abuse Prevention hotline on: 1800 688 009 or visit http://www.childabuseprevention.com.au/ or call The Child Abuse Report Line on: 131 478(Open 24 hours).
Bravehearts are an organisation that help the victims of child sex abuse.
You can find more information about them here.






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You are truly incredible for writing this. It was like recapping the last 6 weeks of my life with my 3 and 4 year old. I hope your family are on the path to recovery Xx
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This is indeed horrible, sad… Hats off to you mom for doing all you can to help your boys through this trauma. I do hope all goes well for you, your boys and someday find the person to stand with you and your kids.
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I am grateful that you shared your story. It is the first time that I have heard a story that is so eerily similar to my own. My children were 1.5 and almost 3 when their cousin visited for 12 days. He abused them at every opportunity too. My children are too young to properly testify so my nephew is free. I with that the author and I could connect.
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hello, I am now a 20 year old boy, but this disturbing memory still lives in me… when I was between 4-5 years old, I was sexually abused by my cousin. she was a girl and she was in grade school at that time.. proboably she was 9-10 years old back then.. she thought me about sex..in an early age. and we had been doing it for quite several times descreetly at that time. I don’t want to get to detail into it.. at an early age , my mind was already corrupted.. then I started to learn to masturbate but don’t know what it is at that time… to make matters worse.. I have always witnessed both of my parent’s fighting because of my dad’s mistress.. they ended up separated for a while.. and I was with my mother that time, she always told me that my father was bad and that I should not grow old to be like him.. my dad was also physically abusive’.. every time his angry, fear would really struck me then.. so basically, those experience mad me hate and fear my dad. maybe because of their separation also, my sexual urges became stronger.. at that time i was maybe 7 or 8 years old.. I begin sexualizing things a lot… and I began fantasizing my own gender… I did it for several times… at age 9-10 yrs. old my parents where reunited.. at thatt time, I cant recall if my sexual urges continued… at the age of puberty, I became less confident of myself.. I have a hard time making friends, especially with my own gender.. and I still haven’t resolve my issue with my dad… until now… I feel leess of a man.. I badly need my dad… We havent had father-son quality time… I’m really longing for that … that is really my desire… but my experience before would block me from fulfilling it… instead, I always fall to masturbation compulsively… and what makes it confusing and frustrating is that theses unwanted thuoghts of me possibly being gay and end up masturbating on gay porn and live cams.. I mean I know deep in my heart that I’m not gay.. I’m just really hungry for a Father figure’… I wanted to play basketball with my dad.. but then thought’s and fears will always overcome me… and then my only outlet is porn, internet and masturbation… i’m also always socially anxious.. I really need help.. I know I am not this kind of person that I have dreamed of!
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I am very sorry to hear that from you. Everything that happened during your childhood cannot be forgotten and you no choice but have to live with it…I hope many people in your life can understand your feelings
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Just goes to show that docs cover up for pedophiles and remove children from parents who have never harmed or abused their children.
http://www.lukesarmy.com/content/help-docs-and-police-are-my-door-steal-my-babies
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There are not many words to describe the feelings and emotions that stories like this evoke – not many that aren’t filled with ‘f’s and ‘c’s anyhow. You have shown remarkable restraint. I hope you take the opportunity to get mad about it when you can without kids or anyone around. Yell, scream, break stuff, rage. Don’t hold it inside you. Honour your need and right to get mad and vent the rage. You deserve it. And one day your kids might want to get mad. Don’t make them feel bad for it. Encourage a healthy expression rather than a life time of oppressed, internalised rage. I’m so sorry that your babies went through this. I’ll pray for their recovery – and yours.
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great article
http://www.checklistmommy.com/2012/02/09/tricky-people-are-the-new-strangers/
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PLEASE teach body safety to your kids! PLEASE make it a normal part of your parenting conversation just as you do water safety and road safety. This conversation will in no way harm them but it just might help protect them: Please see Some Secrets Should Never Be Kept for a children’s book to teach protective behaviors to your kids. Also on the website free, are 9 Body Safety Tips for Parents and Carers: http://www.somesecrets.info
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Perhaps you should note in the intro that you’re talking about Robert Hughes of Hey Dad! not Robert Hughes the recently passed (that’s why I was so confused) art critic.
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Thank you for clarifying – I only heard the name Robert Hughes the other day referring to the art critic. I was confused how he had been arrested!
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This is incredibly sad. I also feel very sorry for the 14 year old boy. When you consider how much these acts have affected this woman’s two boys at such a young age, imagine how the 14 year old must have felt, having gone through such awful experiences but without having the counselling to deal with it. It doesn’t make his behaviour okay, but if that is all he knows, it’s hard to blame. My thoughts are with this family and every child who has to go through something like this.
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Yes, a nightmare, isn’t it. I know, it happened to me.
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Heartbreaking! I cried and shared the link to this story to the 200 mothers in a mothers blog I chat in, it was informative. But oh so heartbreaking, thank you for sharing.
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I am sitting at my desk crying, reading your heartbreaking story. I feel sick reading about what some people can do to innocent children.
Words cannot express how unfair and undeserved what you and your boys have been through is.
I am so sorry this horrible situation has happened in your life, and I hope that you are all able to work through this and emerge on the other side, happy and safe.
To everyone else who has suffered anything like this, always remind yourself that it is NOT your fault.
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I’m reading a great book with my four year old son that teaches me how to teach him to consider his genitals as private and that it’s not ok for anyone to touch them or to show him theirs. He knows the drill now. If someone did so he knows to say in a loud voice “stop that. I don’t like it”. The next step is to go somewhere else (if possible). The next is to tell an adult. I’m so relieved I found this book which is called “Everybody’s got a bottom”. Obviously the poor boys in the story weren’t heard by their father when they did the right thing by telling him. Thanks for re-sharing this story.
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see also Some Secrets Should Never Be Kept: http://www.somesecrets.info
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You have lived my worst nightmare. I think you have handled this extraordinarily well, and I hope with all my heart that with your amazing parenting and professional assistance your boys will go on to have happy and fulfilling lives.
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Many years ago, my then wife held a lingerie party at our place. A number of young mothers attended. At the end of the party my wife called me inside for a coffee. I stood in the archway of our lounge and watched as the mothers chatted and laughed and tended to their young children. At one point, one of the mothers was changing her son’s nappy on the floor. She said to the others present, “Check this out”. She then proceeded to fondle, caress, blow on and kiss her son’s penis. To the obvious delight of the other mothers, she achieved an erection.
I was in my twenties and whilst I found this somewhat confronting, I was also rather naïve and had been taught that “mother”, means “nurture” and that this must be a form of nurture that I simply wasn’t used to. I felt conflicted.
These days I’m a little wiser and looking back, I ponder the following:
• How often did this parent perform this type of act in private and how far did she take it?
• Given that the child was only about 11 months old and would not be able to retain a conscious memory of this event, would he have been affected and if so, in what way?
• Did any of the other mothers perform these types of acts on their own children?
• How prolific is this type of abuse and given that the victims are very unlikely to even be able to recall that they were being abused at such a young age, how will we ever find out?
I understand that the child’s experiences inside the womb can affect the child during life. Logic seems to suggest that this also applies to the first year of life.
I think that there is a whole lot more happening out there than we could even bring ourselves to imagine. If science ever develops the ability to tap into the deepest recesses of the human mind to retrieve memories we are unable to access ourselves, I think that what we then discover will throw many of our preconceptions about child abuse out the window.
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Terrence, that is disturbing on so many levels. Not only that a mother would do something so disgusting to her own child, but that other women would laugh and pretend it is okay.
I read a really revolting comment on YouTube a few months ago which described a similar thing. I was so horrified that I couldn’t get it out of my mind, and the only thing I could do was convince myself that it couldn’t possibly be true – that it was a sick joke written by a perverted creep. It was, after all, YouTube! Does this really happen?!
I have a 13 month old son, which for me makes it even more unthinkable. I guess this is why some people deny sexual abuse has occurred when a victim brings it up – it is just so hard to fathom the evil that some people can do.
I’m not making an excuse – there is absolutely no excuse for not listening to a victim. That is very different from not believing something you read online. I can’t comprehend that Jane’s children’s father and their cousins’ family could pretend nothing happened. What an abuse of trust. They are basically saying “go ahead, it’s fine” to the 14 year old.
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I agree Rachel. I’ve been a sole parent for years now and I cannot imagine doing anything to children, other than to make their lives safe, secure and happy. I remember a woman by the name of Sybil Dorsett who was so severely abused as a child that she finished up with some 16 personalities. A movie was made about her starring Sally Field. It was difficult to watch what she went through and how it affected her. Someone once said, “Society is built on a bedrock of child abuse”. It’s overwhelming to think that might be true.
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As society previously thought of mothers as being incapable of sexual abuse and still does to a large extent, along with the fact that this was obviously seen as a good thing by the mothers, I doubt it would have caused the child any harm whatsoever, even if he remembered it.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not making excuses and I’d never do it to my own son, but the mothers that did (and those that still do, as society still brushes off many (but not all) things that women do to kids that society would be angry at if a man had done those things) that sort of play with their children are unlikely to cause harm as it was (and for many mothers perhaps still is) seen as such a normal thing to do.
The motive may have been sexual, but considering it was done in front of everyone and the other mothers were delighted by it, there almost certainly was no sexual motive – more likely to be fascination with how the boy’s penis works and enjoying (in a non-sexual way) the ability to be able to do that to such a young child.
Additionally, many people believe a man can’t be raped by a woman as if he gets an erection, he’s obviously enjoying it. My husband and other men have confirmed that, whilst spontaneous erections do occur, they’re usually only on younger males, and when it comes to deliberate touching, the penis can only get erect if the man or boy is enjoying it, even during puberty when spontaneous erections are frequent. My husband and the other men I’ve spoken to say that the men who claim otherwise are lying, perhaps to avoid embarrassment. Therefore perhaps the mothers (including the one who did those things) figured that as the boy got an erection, he must have enjoyed what was being done and therefore won’t be harmed by it.
Others will disagree and say that it was blatant abuse and should not have been done, and I see where they’re coming from, but as yet society in general does NOT seem to believe that way (you can see this from comments on websites about particular incidents and the very common belief that if a boy has sexual contact with a woman, he is “lucky”).
Therefore, and again I emphasize I wouldn’t do that to my own son, I think that, whilst it may be commonly seen as abuse in future when attitudes change more, in current society I see it as just a bit of harmless fun as evidenced by the mother sexually stimulating the boy in front of everyone, the fact that the boy got an erection in response so obviously enjoyed it, and the fact that the other mothers didn’t show any disapproval but instead actually enjoyed watching the mother knowledgably, carefully, and skillfully sexually stimulate her little boy’s penis to erection.
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I only wish this was written when I was a kid. Maybe my parents would have picked up on what was happening with me. It started when I was 4, finished when I was 16. I didn’t tell a soul until my 18th birthday. It was only then, my parents were able to piece together what had happened. I don’t think they ever forgave themselves for letting it happen (not that they could’ve done anything, it was me who kept it quiet.).
I know the pain this mother has gone through and she’s right – it’s not something easily brought up, nor can it be discussed casually. It’s a very lonely place to be. My only hope is that parents take note of this article and ensure it never happens to their children.
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I was sexually abused when I was a child by the son of my mothers best friend who used to babysit. Luckily my parents decided to go back to their home country not very long after the abuse started. I am unsure how long it really went for becos I have blocked it mostly from my memory. Sometimes I get flashbacks.
I am currently pregnant with my third child (a suprise) and am absolutely terrified its a girl and I won’t be able to protect her. My parents are very loving, caring of their children and they had absolutely no idea, so I question whether I will know. Also Kewmanor I am not sure that they would have picked up on what was happening as I was scared out of my wits for the abuser (he was 18 and I was 11)
This article absolutely disgusted me. I thank the writer for reminding me that its not just the girls you have to watch out for. Its weird how when things start coming back to the surface its really thrown in my face – music, articles etc. Guess I will have to deal with it soon.
NB As a side note, my abuser was badly burned in a car accident when he was in his early twenties, unfort he was still able to have children, and he is now an alcoholic with incurable liver disease. I feel he deserves everything thats happened to him and more
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My father was a normal, happy person until 2004 when his mother (who was 81) confirmed to him that he was constantly and continually raped by his two uncles who lived in the same house, under his mother’s own eyes, when he was a child.
He went from being a normal, happy person to someone who would cut his wrists and have to be taken to the hospital. Someone who stayed in the mental health division of our local hospital, someone who never swore to someone who couldn’t stand the sight of his own son (me).
He took his own life a year and a bit later.
Any person who abuses a child, should be locked up forever and have the key thrown away.
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That is so sad- Some things are best left in the past. It is bad enough that he was raped but the societal mind set that your , broken or used up of violated beyond repair also has a lot to answer for. These acts are made worse by people treating you like your broken.
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I have bought and watched a DVD from the Bravehearts website (Hetty Johnson’s site) that is made especially for children and explains things to them in a way they can understand – things like intuition, good feelings, bad feelings, secrets, trust. My boys are 5 & 9 and were happy to watch it and we talked about the concepts after. I highly recommend it.
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Thanks for this – have been looking for something like this for some time.
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What a difficult – but incredibly important – article this was to read. My heart goes out to you and your boys. No one should have to go through what they did but thank goodness they have such a strong, brave mother to help them through this.
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Thanks so much for sharing. Thanks for letting me know that the feeling of being alone in this is normal. My 4 year old son went through similar with his day carers 14 year old son and the things he told me (and acted out) should never have came out of a 4 year olds mouth. In my case the law were no help and it has ended with a letter from their lawyer threatening me with defamation as there was no physical or DNA evidence! No accounting for the fact he wasn’t in there care when he had to see the forensic doctor.
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Jane, thank you for sharing your story and I’m so glad your boys were able to tell you what happened, I was sexually abused from the ages of six to eight by a neighbour whose daughter I played with in the street. I didn’t tell my parents until I was 14 years old when I had began to realize what had happened to me. This led to a terrible battle with depression and suicidal thoughts, but now after much therapy and learning that it’s not my fault what happened, I am now a happy 22 year old girl who rarely thinks about what has happened to her. With your help and love and care your boys can get there too. All my love.
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I remember reading a paragraph in a parenting book by Nigel Lattavthat basically said ‘ never under any circumstances let a teenage boy babysit your children. Just don’t.’ I’ll always have that in my mind with my girls.
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I applaud you for listening to & looking after your boys immediately on knowing what they’d been through. This is what parents are meant to do. Knowing this story has been re-posted on Mamamia, I wonder how your boys are doing now? I hope they have recovered & are living safe, full lives. It is so important to talk about these things.
I’ve asked my family about whether they know of any abuse of myself & my older sister as children & no-one came back with anything. Yet both of us displayed some of these signs at different times. I recall a teenage family friend would always want to play truth & dare & that I would go to do whatever was asked of me as though I was on automatic, e.g. lift my shirt up etc & my sister would say, no you don’t have to do that. And I had a lot of fear around my dad. He was an alcoholic & there was a lot of emotional & psychological abuse in our home. He denied knowledge of anything happening from anyone & expressed sympathy when I explained I’d been raped as a 15yo & was trying to discover if anything else had happened to me earlier than that time. My dad died last year. Funnily he told my mum (they’re long divorced) when she visited him at the hospital that he had been abused by a neighbour as a boy. He didn’t tell my sister this & my mum passed the info on to me. I don’t know if it has any import but I figure if I was abused that it will come up on its own when I am able to deal with it, just like the rape did.
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Hi Hellopetal,
You’re right, this happened in October 2010. I was alerted that this was reposted this morning. (Thank you AnIdleDad) I’m sitting here with my heart in my mouth as I re-read the comments and compassion that comes from so many.
The boys are doing well. They are now 7 and 10. They have completed a course with their ‘talking doctor’ through Child Protective Services – an absolutely fantastic service. Their case is considered ‘closed’ as they are at no risk of causing harm; to themselves or others.
Does this mean it goes away? Of course not. It will never go away.
The 7 year old still asks about their cousin. He has repressed a lot of memories.
The 10 year old goes into baby talk mode if it is ever mentioned.
They still both live with me full time.
I still worry – all the time.
I am contemplating writing a follow up article and will discuss with Mia.
Thank you all for your kind comments and support.
So much love to you all.
*Jane
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My husband entered rehab last year for substance/drug abuse. During his time in care, (and whilst he was ‘sober’ for the first time since he was 15) he was able to recall and talk about the sexual abuse that he was subject to as a 10 year old.
He had sleep overs at his friends’ house and whilst staying there the older brother performed oral sex on him and forced him to reciprocate.
His addiction cannot be entirely blamed upon this experience as we are all born with free will to make our own choices, but the shame and the pain of this abuse affected him deeply.
His relationship with his parents was not one that allowed him to tell them what had happened to him so his experiences and emotions were suppressed.
We have two sons and I cried with such empathy for your darling boys whilst reading this.
Thank you for your honest and courageous story telling. I wish your children happy healthy futures. I am sure that with the support and understanding of their strong, supportive and caring mother that they will overcome this abhorrent experience as much as a person can.
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I’m so sorry for you and your husband and wish you all the very best. He is very lucky to have you and your support.
Take care and focus on the positive – any positive, anywhere.
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The saddest part of this story is that most people post anonomously, its the same thing as shoving it under the carpet and talking in whispers…. I have dealt with this first hand in my family history, and more people need to have the guts to speak up, and expose this disgusting act perpetrated by people we thought we could trust. My kids go alone with someone else on occasion, but as I am aware of the risk (you can NEVER be too sure that you know and trust the person) I have taught them never to let anyone look or touch down there under any circustances. When they get older they will be taught that is only allowed when they want it to occur. Hard to explain to young kids, but entirely necessary.
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That is not the saddest part. It may be something you disagree with, but it doesn’t make it the saddest part. The saddest is that two innocent boys were abused.
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It is the saddest part…. until everyone opens up about this, it will continue to occur…. its brushed away and hidden in shame, which is the shame….. abuse like this occurs all the time, and because the majority of people dont want their name in association with it, they want to speak to the police, press, etc anonomously….. its the people that we trust the most that we should fear the most….. teachers, priests, police officers, pastors…. the list is endless, and until everyone is willing to speak out, it will continue to occur at an astoudingly alarming rate….. I know, my dad was a pillor of the community (such a laugh), minister of a church, and behind the scenes a monster dressed in sheeps clothing. Open your eyes, we seem to be our worst enemies around this horrible, but very real topic.
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Hi Phil
I understand where you’re coming from. I, however, have posted this article in agreement with Mamamia in anonymity due to the protection of two children. I would have no issue with exposing who I am, or talking about these things if it was not for the exposure/safety of two/three children who have already been through a living hell. They don’t need that to be public, but the message needed to be out there.
I have a very uniquely spelt name, and the two children and the perpetrator would be exposed if I had posted this article under my name rather than a pseudonym. I don’t feel this would be fair to either party, particularly if the accused has any chance of recovery from his heinous actions.
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Jane* Thank you!
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You’re a terrific mother. You spoke to them and listened to them. You made sure they were safe. After I revealed my abuse, my mother chose not to speak to me again. There are days I’m fine and then I think of my mother and wonder why she doesn’t love me enough to call and see if I’m ok and will start crying while I’m out driving.
Maybe she feels guilty. Maybe she just doesn’t care. I don’t know. I wish she was more like you.
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That’s awful Sarah, to hear your mother’s reaction to you admitting abuse. It must be heart-breaking that she is not talking to you, for something that is in no way your fault! If she is indeed a human being, then the only excuse I can see is that she is so guilt-ridden herself, that in no way could this have possibly happened under her nose and she not know anything nor do anything about it, so she just pretends that it couldn’t be true and tries to convince herself that you’re making it up. For, if she admits that your abuse is true, it means she has to admit that she (in her mind) has failed as a mother. And some people just can’t handle that. Deep down she would know, just remember that.
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This is truly very heart-breaking & unfortunately all too common. We must remember, particularly in light of this story, it’s not just adults/grown-ups who molest kids. Children, young teenagers etc, experiment with defenseless young’ns. Usually within families, due to ease of opportunity. The fear & threat of discovery is magnified because of this ‘familiarity’……& so it continues, hidden under layers of generational family shame. To open a new can of worms, but in a similar vein, sibling rape & molestation is also bigger than you could ever imagine. From brother’s trying to catch a glimpse of their sisters in the shower to acting out far worse. The opposite may also be true, I’m not sure. If we want proof of the far-reaching effects of the over-sexualized culture & times we live in……look no further than the family home. (NOT all, of course, but many) Kids see, absorb so much adult content, if not in your own home, in someone else’s. I am only saying these things BC this year has been one of confronting revelation from friends. Unburdening their torment & secrets……trying to unfold the problems in adulthood that have remained tied up for soooo long. 4 out of 6 of my friends were inappropriately touched, fondled, one even raped by their own brother…including one male friend. This is just the tip of the ice-berg… (Of course NOT all families or siblings are like this, but too much stuff is suppressed or palmed-off as accidental experimentation or horsing-around) A dialogue must be started. I hope everyone who has experienced such sadness & trauma finds someone or someway they can unburden themselves & find peace. Forums can be compassionate ears. To the wonderful, courageous mother above, continue in your strength & Bless u for sharing.
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My 14 year old cousin touched me often. My sister told my mum and she did nothing. My grandma also knew. Eventually my sister (bless her) threatened my cousin and it stopped. I didn’t know she did this until years later. Now we’re all grown up, I’m grateful both my cousin’s children are boys.
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Sorry to hear you went through that, your sister is wonderful for standing up for your rights when the adults in our family wouldn’t. I think your cousin having boys doesn’t necessarily mean they re safe, abuse is usually a power thing not a sexual hing. Hopefully you are right though!
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You amazing, wonderful mother. Your poor, sweet boys. I trembled with pain and rage, and hugged my son who is 9 until he said “c’mon Mum, enough already”, in that way innocent lads who are sick of their mum do. And of course I let him go, cause we teach them that, they own their bodies.
But how do you protect them from family, from those situations that should be safe.
Look, you don’t know me from squat, but if you ever, EVER need a friendly voice or email, Skype, phone call, whatever, get in touch. And I can guarantee you will get the same reception from 99% of the amazing women and men here.
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An old friend many years ago allowed her 2 girls to watch an episode of a popular family sitcom that dealt with this topic, thinking that it was time that she started educating them about speaking out should ever touch them inappropriately. That night she heard them crying in their beds during the night but them went back to sleep & she didn’t think any more of it until the next day when her children, aged 8 and 5 came to her and told her that her beloved nephew had been abusing them for 3 years! It had started when the youngest was 2 & the oldest was 5 years old. The 5 year old, whilst unable to verbalise her feelings at the time, knew enough to try and stay away from her cousin. However, the younger sister was at his mercy! My friend went through a terrible time as her sister & grandparents refused to believe what had happened & pressured her not to tell police. She did & their family imploded, her older sister never forgave her. Grandparents would invite both sisters over in an attempt to reunite the family & my friend would leave as soon as the older sister arrived – eventually had to move interstate to start afresh.
Years later I heard that the girls had a terrible time dealing with the abuse & the ramifications were felt throughout their teen years and into their 20′s. We lost touch over the years so no idea whether they have been able to turn things around.
A completely broken family. So sad. If it wasn’t for the tv sitcom the abuse may have continued for longer. Be alert, but not alarmed – you don’t want to terrorize your children so they fear everybody. We need to be open with our children so they can recognize when they don’t feel comfortable around a certain person and tell a trusted adult.
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This article brought back memories and it’s got me wondering… What counts as child abuse? When I was 4 I had a family friend who was a year or two older than me. We had a little romance going on and said we’d marry each other. I don’t remember much, except that he was pretty aware of sex and stuff (he had an older brother) and he told me that people in relationships perform oral sex so we should too. That’s where his details got hazy and I’m pretty sure it consisted of me planting a kiss on his penis and him kissing my pubic bone. I can’t remember how I felt, but I remember telling him one day that I didn’t want to do it anymore. Was this a form of child abuse? Or was I just “sexually exploring” at a young age. Growing up I hated being touched, I was scared of sex but at the same time full of sexual jokes, and when I finally lost my virginity it turned out I had vaginismus. I don’t know if all those are just me or a result of that early behavior.
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I wouldn’t over think it- you kids are curious and mimic adult behaviour. I would be concerned for the 6 year old though just in case he was exposed to sexual abuse or maybe he had seen it on tv?
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Thanks Amandarose, you’re probably right! From what I heard, his older brother (who was 15 at the time) had somehow informed him. He didn’t really display any signs of abuse, as far as I can remember.
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It brought back memories for me too – when I was 9, two of my older cousins touched me inappropriately on several occasions (they were 2-3 years older than me), but I don’t remember feeling like it was abuse – I went along with it for some reason. I still have a cordial relationship with both of them. It has never been spoken about since, and I think about it from time to time wondering if I should feel damaged or abused. I had a few self-destructive relationships with men as a young woman, but have been happily married now for nearly 10 years. My heart breaks for Jane and all of the other posters on here who have suffered horrific abuse. I am just confused about this for myself.
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A mother’s worst nightmare. I’m certain you all have some healing to go through for some time yet, but I’m sending you and your precious boys my best wishes for a happy and healthy future where this part of their lives is barely even a dim memory.
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Thankyou so much for sharing such hard time of your family’s life. I’m a new mum and I now know that there are signs to watch for and will help protect my family/ children in the future. I admire your strength and commitment as a mother. Best wishes with your boys and best of luck for your future.
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When I read that trigger warning thing, I kind of knew I shouldn’t read this. Just as I know I shouldn’t ask this, but it won’t get out of my head until I do.
What do you do if someone who hurt you when you were a kid still hurts you, but you’re not really a kid anymore? How does this work?
I know that if you tell someone when you’re a kid that someone in your family is hurting you then they come and take you away from your family, but what happens when they’re still hurting you and now you’ve just become a legal adult?
There is information about being a grown up and getting out of bad relationships or being a kid and stopping someone in your family from hurting you but what happens when you’re 18 and the person who hurt you when you were little hasn’t stopped hurting you?
In these kind of stories it always seems like the kid gets hurt for a little while and then it stops. It’s meant to stop when you’re not a kid anymore, right? Who is meant to help you when you’re a grown up without losing all your family?
An what if they only had sex with you when you were younger and you’re not getting hurt as bad anymore?
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VeryAnon,, what you have described unfortunately does happen too often and it’s an extremely complex and terrible situation. Often the person who is being abused has tried to justify it and say it is ok, just to help themselves cope with it. But is never ok, and it is never too late to tell someone and to get help.
If this is your situation or someone you know then I encourage you/them to speak with someone, preferably a counsellor or a teacher, or a least someone you know and trust. Take small steps if you/they need to, but don’t let this go on, there has been way too much suffering already.
I wish you all the very best and I know you will find all the strength you need to face this.
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Very anon, I’m sure there is a sexual abuse hotline in your state that you can call and who can answer these wuestions for you. You may be a legal adult now, but if the abuse began as child and is still continuing, they treat it like any other child abuse crime, and they can help you with whayever you need to be kept safe/ If you cannot find the number for the sexual abuse line, call lifeline as they have all those contact numbers.
But you cannot stay in a situation like that!
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Please, please get help. I can feel that you are frozen with fear … If I’m right you are unsure that if you tell somebody what has been happening your entire world will change. Terrified to risk if your family will back you up or betray you. If I’m right, please seek help – you can’t live like this! Trained professionals can help you – you deserve to have a happy life.
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When your an adult it is called rape. You may feel it is ripping your family apart by telling but not telling means he will most likely hurt someone else.
Your G.P, the police, help hot lines, a trusted adult- Lots of people will an can help you.
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This is the 3rd time I’ve tried to post this, so I will try to remember what I said.
I am sorry you are in such an awful situation. I can see how it must be terribly scary for you – wondering is there anywhere safe for you to go and anyone who will reach out to help you, especially when you haven’t yet learnt to support yourself financially.
I am not an expert, but I would like to suggest that you talk to a counsellor before you talk to your family. A counsellor will offer some comfort and support and help with working out what practical or financial help is available to you. You will feel much stronger after talking to a counsellor, so that if your family doesn’t react the way they should when you tell them, you will be less likely to agree to keep pretending it never happened. If they threaten you with awful consequences, you will already know where else you can go. A counsellor can help you work out a few plans depending on how your family reacts eg plan A if they react the way they should, or plan B if they disappoint you or kick you out of home. etc That way you won’t feel so powerless.
Please talk to your GP or phone kidshelpline (including out of hours) – they help people up to the age of 25, or bravehearts (during business hours). Each of these people can point you in the right direction for free or affordable counselling to get started.
You may have to make some difficult choices regarding your family, if their reaction lets you down, but talking to someone first before you talk to your family will give you strength and some comfort.
Take care and keep believing that you deserve so much better than this.
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that is such good advice, the situation is so fraught that you need an outsider to advise and assist you with this. Also it is really empowering to have someone whose priority is you .
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Hello again,
I also agree with the first reply to your comment, about breaking this into little steps. And, as you may be feeling overwhelmed with emotion and frozen with fear, here are some first steps you could use.
1. be careful if you’re using a computer or phone that this person shares with you or can check. So, maybe use one they can’t see, or erase your search history.
2. Are you still at school? If you are, maybe make an appointment with the school counsellor today. If you can’t get one for a few weeks, and you feel you need one sooner, then ask to talk to a principal or the deputy and tell them, and they will be able to ask the counsellor to see you sooner. If you find you are too upset to speak when you see the principal, then ask if you can show them what you wrote here. Otherwise, speak to any teacher who you are most comfortable with, and ask them to help you get an appointment. Every single teacher is legally obliged to help you, and every single teacher will know this is wrong and want to help you.
Or, if you are not at school, the first step is your GP, kids helpline or bravehearts.
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Jane you are a hero for your sons, they are so lucky to have you as their safe place.
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My heart breaks for you, the little boys, and all children who deal with this hideous abuse. I cannot understand the attitude of their father, but thank goodness for his partner. She is the sort of person I would want my estranged partner (hypothetically speaking) to be involved with, if she is going to be around my children! I wonder about the 14yo old cousin. I’ve no sympathy for him per se, but I hope he gets help, as well. As a 14yo, surely lhe knows how the abuse he suffered made him feel, and it would be therefore wrong to inflict that abuse on those innocent children. Maybe it gave him some of the power he would have felt had been stolen from him when he himself was being abused?
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This is the such a sad & horrible story. As the road goes on I am just hoping you all finally get your happy ending. No words can make you feel better, but know you & your family are in my thoughts anyway. You seem so incredibly brave and a kind, loving mother. All the best.
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I have read this story before. Is this a re post or is it from another website?
My heart goes out to the mother of those dear little boys.
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i think i have read it here before but maybe MM decided to repost after the ‘hey dad’ story this week.
thanks goodness for amazing people who share these stories, hopefully allowing other people to be more aware.
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You are an amazing mum. My life would have been very different if anyone especially my mother had done something about the abuse I was suffering at the hands of my stepfather. She chose to turn a blind eye.
Your boys are going to be fine. I applaud you for standing up for them, for listening to them and for believing them.
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Thank you for publishing your story. As a mother of a beautiful 4 year old it upsets me to think that anyone could take advantage of anyone so young.
Your story has brought this issue to the attention of many naive people (including myself) who probably would never consider this happening to them.
I’ll now constantly talk to my son about this and also be more aware of who is around him.
Thank you.
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Its good to hear some positive comments with regard to child protection services and police. This 14 yo most likely would be placed on a Therapeutic Treatment Order by child protection services (if his parents refused to seek help for him) so that hopefully he doesn’t do this again to any other child. As for Jane, you are an amazing Mum and I wish you and your boys all the best for the future.
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As an aunt to a (then) child who was molested by a neighbour of the Catholic infants’ school she was attending at the time (resulting in numerous attempted suicides since the age of 12 when she ‘processed’ what happened to her), this is such an important dialogue which needs to keep getting easier and easier to have.
So hard to find the balance between warning children and scaring them. I have a lot of male friends who are photographers and teachers who have said that it’s really tough for them these days, to always have this mistrust hanging over them…and then that ridiculous policy of Virgin Airlines not allowing children to sit next to unknown males.
Mamamia, I would LOVE to see an article on here written by a professional child psychologist about how to start talking to children about this. I want to know: when to start? and how to start without giving them the impression that all adults are dangerous, etc. etc. How can we empower our children more?
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Thanks for your thought’s K. We’ll definitely see what we can do around who might be able to write something like that for us. Great idea.
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Thank you so much for considering my idea. I truly believe that most parents on this site (mothers and fathers) would be more than willing to raise the topic with their children if only they had some tools, some guidance about how best to do that.
Many of us are Gen X (and Gen Y), and it seems we can talk openly about sex, but still not so much about this topic. We need to keep pushing through that feeling of being embarrassed to talk about it….and not to point the finger at men in general. I feel very strongly about this as the men in my family are warm, gentle and kind and have been as devastated by what happened to my niece as the women.
I, myself, would love to see compulsory workshops in schools (even in kindy) about sexual abuse similar to what Daniel Morcombe’s parents are doing. It seems to me that many child victims of sexual abuse have been lulled into believing they were doing something wrong and, therefore, didn’t speak up/shout/cry when they had a chance to. So we need to let them know that it’s okay to do that. Maybe empowering them through storytelling? I don’t know, not being a child psychologist.
I know Mamamia could do a huge service here.
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I have cousins who suffered abuse and thank you for giving me an insight into what they must have been through. Unfortunately they chose to not be in touch with any of our family despite offers of support (they, were abused by their father). I just hope their mother supported them as, you, did. Thank you for, sharing your story and thank you for being the mum you are
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Jane you are an amazing mother and thank you thank you for listening to your boys and making them safe. If only my own mother was like you, this happened to me most of my child hood by my older brother, my mother knew and did nothing. As an adult I confronted her, her reply “he is my son” being just her daughter was obviously not good enough. Whilst I have moved on from the both of them and live a very happy life he continues to deny it and she continues to help him do so, he spends time with our cousins little girls and i dont say a word, you may ask why and thats because he got in first and i am the liar so unfortunely all i can do is pray my cousin sees sence. Regardless of that I managed to dig my way put of the negativity on my own. So your boys with your support will no doubt flourish in leaps and bounds.
It is sad to say society has not changed that much a lot of adults still don’t listen a lot of adults think your making it up but most of all some people just refuse to think a family member could be capable of such a thing
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That is just horrible, as a mother I can’t understand that response? You poor thing – glad you’re okay but feel awful for those little cousins.. xx
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How very brave of you to tell your tale. As the mother of 3 beautiful boys aged 7,5 and 15 months I can only imagine what this experience has been like for all of you. You sound like an amazing Mum, your boys are very lucky to have you helping them through such a horrendous time. I really wish you and your boys all the very best for a happy and healthy future together.
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Jane, your boys are so lucky to have you. I hope that the words of support and encouragement here can go a bit of the way towards the help and solace that you haven’t found in being able to talk to friends. And I wish you and your beautiful boys a future free of fear and stress from what they’ve experienced. xo
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My daughter was similarly abused during annual summer vacation with another family, for 3 years running, by the son of our (then) close friends who was 4 years older than her. This was all between the ages of 8 to 10. We were ALL in the house each time. She plucked up the courage to tell us finally. We reported it to the police, who were amazing. Counselling was of course very useful for all of us, but the one thing I told her that really seems to have made an impact was, “This was something very, very bad that HAPPENED to you. It is NOT who you are”. She is now 15 and doing well, socially and academically, and had returned to being her joyful self.
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Jane your story sliced my heart in two and my tears won’t stop. I am so sorry that your precious, innocent and beautiful boys had to suffer this horrific abuse. I admire your strength and courage for telling your story, but most importantly for being an attentive mother and recognising the signs that something wasn’t quite right with your sons. With such a great mother I have no doubt that they will get through this, and will grow into solid and caring men. All they need right now is their mother, their loving, caring mother who will protect them at all costs- which they have in you. May God bless you and your sons, and may He give you all the strength you all need for a bright and happy future.
I hope that the cousin who committed these acts gets brought to justice and I hope that he get the therapy he needs so he doesn’t touch another child again!!
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