UPDATE, DECEMBER 16, 2011: The Pharmaceutical Benefits Advisory Committee (PBAC) has for the first time recommended that boys between the ages of 12 and 13 be immunised against the Human Papillomavirus (HPV) and boys in Year 9 be given catch-up shots. PBAC has previously rejected calls for the school-based injection program to be extended to boys. The most common vaccination against some strains of HPV is Gardasil, developed in Australia. Here’s the official recommendation:
“The PBAC recommended extension of the National Immunisation Program listing of quadrivalent human papillomavirus (types 6, 11, 16, 18) (HPV) recombinant vaccine, solution for injection 0.5 mL, to include ongoing administration to males approximately twelve to thirteen years of age in a school-based program and for two catch-up cohorts for all males in the two year groups above the ongoing cohort, delivered over two years for Year 9 males, on the basis of acceptable cost effectiveness compared with female-only vaccination.”
The Government has to accept the recommendation if this is to become a reality, however. Watch this space.
Here’s our original story about why this is important news:
Your average boy might not have a cervix (right, none of them do) but that doesn’t mean boys and men shouldn’t be getting the cervical cancer vaccine.
Ongoing research into the effectiveness of the two vaccines known to prevent some strains of the Human Papillomavirus (HPV) suggests men (who also carry the virus) are also at risk of some cancers and genital warts.
The details can be a little confusing, so let’s step through this slowly.
Garadsil was developed by Australian of the Year Professor Ian Frazer after years of studying HPV. It protects against four strains of HPV. HPV16 and HPV-18 are responsible for almost three quarters of all cervical cancer cases in women and most of the cases of penile, anal, vulvar and vaginal cancers (which are, in truth, relatively rare).
But it also wards against HPV-6 and 11 strains which cause almost 9 in 10 cases of genital warts. Simply, genital warts are HPV.
It probably need not be mentioned that men can get anal and penile cancers. What isn’t mentioned quite so often is that HPV-related tonsil cancers happen almost as frequently in men as the cervical cancers do in women.
There are around 400,000 cases of cervical cancer in women worldwide, around half of which result in deaths.
The ‘peripheral’ cancers are not always nearly so deadly, but they can be. And, you guessed it, HPV can be spread by oral sex (and regular sex too, but oral sex with HPV transmission can lead to tonsil cancer).
And so, the case to get boys jabbed becomes a little clearer.
To gain an idea of just how widespread HPV is in men, a recent study found that as many as half the adult men in Brazil, Mexico and the United States carry HPV. And sure, the male cancers might be rare but in the US there were still 5000 new cases of anal cancer in 2010.
The fact remains that women get most of the cancer risk, but men are still never free from harm’s way either.
Especially gay men, who don’t benefit from the immunity of a woman who may have been vaccinated.
Take a look at this, from The Guardian in the United Kingdom:
“In most countries the vaccine is available for men who can afford to pay for it, but as far as I know it isn’t included in any vaccination programme. We’ll have to await further scientific evidence.
In the meantime it is worth highlighting the links between HPV infection and sexual behaviour. The more partners one has, the higher the probability of being exposed to someone with an infection. Scientists suspect that HPV infection has increased as a result of increased promiscuity since the sexual revolution of the 1960s.
If most of HPV infections occur at young ages, improving sexual education and awareness of sexually transmitted diseases would certainly help. One worry is that oral sex might be one way to pass on the virus. Hazel Nunn, senior health information manager at Cancer Research UK, says “oral cancer linked to HPV is a fascinating field of research” – but she emphasises that there are still many unanswered questions.”
In 2007, the Australian Government began funding a voluntary Gardasil vaccination program for girls from the ages of 12 to 26. This was scaled back to 12-13-year-old girls as part of the regular high school vaccination offering from 2009.
The vaccine is also approved for boys, but not funded. It costs about $400 if you’re after it outside of the Government allowances.
But really, for boys about to become sexually active, how much is peace of mind worth?
Professor Ian Frazer could not be reached for comment.
Have you been vaccinated with Gardasil? Have you vaccinated a child? A boy? Would you? What if it was funded by the Government?
NB: Gardasil does not protect against every cervical cancer and pap smears are still necessary for women who have been vaccinated, to be doubly sure.




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What they are NOT saying is actually how this can possibly happen. How can males carry HPV? In their cervix? In their mouths? No. The answer is under their foreskin. Remove it, or wash it properly. If women are really catching HPV from men, it is proof that men are generally not taking care of themselves properly. If you can’t wash it, get rid of it. I and my son thankfully do not need to worry about this. He will certainly not be getting the injection when many of his classmates will be.
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After my close friend died 2 years ago of cervical cancer aged 34 I became aware of HPV, the Gardasil vaccine etc. Two things made me decide to get my 15 year old son vaccinated 1) all the professional health & cancer workers I spoke to had or would have (if they had them) have their sons done even just to avoid genital warts 2) the hundred forms of guilt my friend’s husband feels in the wake of her death – I thought if at least my son took the opportunity to avoid being a carrier & transmitter of deadly HPV strains he’d be helping do his bit to stop it in it’s tracks.
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I had a hysterectomy four years ago for a few reasons, but high on the list was the fact I had had multiple abnormal pap smear results showing HPV as the cause over a 15 year time frame. It had become obvious that I was at an extremely high risk for cervical cancer and that removing the problem was the solution.
There was no Gardasil for me, I wish there had been. I only had the chance to have one child, and if I hadn’t had that problem I might have been able to have a second baby.
That’s why my daughter will get the Gardasil vaccination. I will be lobbying my husband to have his son vaccinated as well. Precautions are better than regrets.
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I had the full vaccine at 26 and was diagnosed with CIN3 (the highest grade abnormality) at 28. I had a LLETZ and have had clear papsmears since.
I find it amusing they people go on about the side affects of this vaccine. There have been over 40 million dosages given. Cervical cancer is the most common cancer in women outside of Australia.
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This vaccine was rushed into the market without adequate testing. I don’t think they have a clue if it will affect fertility, create birth defects in the children if those that have had it or future diseases and other issues. There have been many reports of issues relating to the vaccine and yet it’s swept under the carpet. I won’t go near it and it’s certainly 1 vaccine I won’t subject my children to.
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It protects against a virus. How and why would it affect fertility or cause birth defects?
No vaccine is ‘rushed’ onto the market. The sad fact is that many people probably died unnecessarily from HPV-caused cancers because it took so long to get there.
Your children deserve protection from these cancers wherever they can get it.
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I am having a total hysterectomy due to hpv creating cin 3 “carcinoma in situ” far up in my cervical canal. wish to god this vaccine had been available when I was a child. Vaccines have risks, but CANCER = DEATH my little sister has been vacinated and she is perfectly fine no side effects. Everything in this world has risks but imagine eradicating HPV the was we (the human race) eradicated POLIO
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i would like to wait a few more years before getting my sons vaccinated to a) hope that hte govt will pay for boys as well as girls (What the?) and b) to see what side effects surface…
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I contracted HPV when I was younger and more sexually active. Chances are I passed it on before it was diagnosed, which shames me. I had to go through an uncomfortable, invasive schedule of surgical procedures and then lots of pap smears till I was cleared. I wouldnt wish that on anyone, let alone my own children. Both my son and my daughter will have the vaccination.
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Oh, Kate! Please don’t feel shame, 80% of the population get HPV at some stage of their lives. It’s a bit like getting a cold. Please don’t feel ashamed. The virus can lay dormant in your body for a long, long time (no-one knows how long), or dormant in your partner’s body and then passed back and forth during it’s active phases.
xxxx
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Thank you Flotsam. Youre kind, and sensible.
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I had three surgical procedures over 8 months to get rid of the nasty cells, so I’ve been on the same road as you. I felt enormous shame and questioned my husband’s fidelity, until my SIL (who is a nurse) sat me down and pointed out these facts.
I don’t think the article emphasized enough that 4/5 people will get HPV, and also that is a different strain of HPV to the one that causes herpes.
Take care, Kate! x
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When this vaccine came out a few years ago, my GP asked me if I wanted the vaccine. I asked her all about it. She asked me about my health, sexual history etc.
Because my husband and I were both virgins when we married, my GP told me there is no need for me to get the cervical cancer vaccine.
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Even if you and your partner are the only sexual relations you have had in your lifetime you can still get HPV and statistically and realistcly you can’t determine that either one of you is never going to have sex with another person. I’m not talking infidelity just reality not everyone is together forever. You two may be but regardless HPV is a possibility.
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I wouldn’t go and get the cervical cancer vaccine myself, let alone give it to my daughters. I have twin girls and no sons but even if I did have a son, I don’t see the need to give a *cervical* cancer vaccine to a male, primarily because they don’t have a cervix! (Not to mention, I’m not a big fan of vaccines.)
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Did you read the post Lily? Just checking, the whole post is about why the boys might benefit from the vaccine despite not having a cervix (cancers of the anus, penis, throat and tonsils etc).
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I obtained a prescription from my doctor for this a few years ago (you then bring it back to your doctor to jab you – stupid process) but never filled it because I just haven’t had the spare cash (or remembered it when I have).
What if you already carry the virus and don’t know it? Shouldn’t they test you first? (I have been tested for all STIs and this was definitely not on the list.)
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You might be interested to hear that early Australian data suggests that the HPV vaccination program has reduced genital warts in young heterosexual males (as well as young females) – so there is already some benefit for boys, even though they are not vaccinated.
http://www.stipu.nsw.gov.au/pdf/weeklymail/HPV_vaccination&warts_Donovan.pdf
Also the government’s expert advisory panel did consider funding the HPV vaccine for boys earlier this year, but it was rejected at that time:
http://tinyurl.com/3l5c58o
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This is extraordinarily close to my heart. After a routine pap test a month or so ago I found out that I have sever dysplasia which, if left untreated will become cervical cancer. In two weeks I go in to have the LLETZ procedure to have the cells removed and then on to continual monitoring for the next few years until it’s agreed that I’m all clear.
I think it is most likely that I contracted HPV from my husband, so if he had had the opportunity to have the vaccine, it’s likely that we would not be in this situation.
If by immunising both boys and girls we can help to eradicate this cancer causing virus, why is it even up for debate?!
As a side note, I would have liked to have had an extra option to vote for “Everyone” to be given the vaccine.
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I had the LLETZ procedure last year, and am now having three monthly pap smears to monitor. Best of luck to you, keep your chin up and spread the word that everyone, girl and boy, needs to consider getting this vaccine!
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Exactly my thoughts when I was first sitting down to get my vaccinations at school – if it protects against something thats transmitted sexually, why aren’t the boys getting it?
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I think I have read that Ian Frazer has had his sons immunized with Gardisil. I have been vaccinated too.
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I have just negotiated with my eldest’s Dad to have this vaccine.
I hate the thought of him having to have his penis sprayed with liquid nitrogen to rid it of genital warts.
I can’t believe it’s not a free program for boys, now that a cohort of girls have been immunised. Just silly and typical of this government.
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Anon, the removal of the warts wouldn’t rid his body of the virus, either. I’m glad your son’s Dad was sensible enough to see the benefits of vaccinating him!
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It really bugs me that the HPV vaccine is labelled “Cervical Cancer Vaccine”, when it clearly is not. Did you consider that when you titled the article? The article goes on to explain what the vaccine is really for, but your title continues the problem of mislabelling, which may be a factor why many parents wouldn’t consider having their sons vaccinated.
*** Apologies, have just noticed the quotes around ‘cervical’ in your title. So obviously you did consider…must get sleep or caffeine…
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and here come all the antivaccers out of the wood work to make wild unsubstantiated claims and attempt to harm to public good, makes me sick especially when it comes down to declaring that someone is making squillions and running a conspiracy
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This vaccine has been around for like what, FIVE minutes? In its short lifespan it has already caused THOUSANDS of side-effects and several deaths.
We simply DO NOT KNOW whether this vaccine will protect us from cervical cancer at all. If I had a teenage daughter-which I don’t have-I wouldn’t get her jabbed with this vaccine. My son wouldn’t get the vaccine either.I couldn’t answer the poll Rick, as “NO” wasn’t among the options….
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It’s an option now
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Deaths? Is that true? Evidence/link please.
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There are way too many links to provide… just google “death from HPV vaccine”, “adverse side effects HPV vaccine”
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I did google as you suggested and all the reputable sites just listed the normal side effects like pain and swelling on the needle site and fainting.
It was only the fringe anti-vacination groups that were touting more adverse type side effects.
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Go to :http://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/
Add “HPV” and “died” to search. Sit back and read.
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It has been around for about five years.
And I would like evidence for these deaths – and not from AVN, please.
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I will not allow my daughter to get this vaccine. I, too, am concerned about the high chance of side effects and death. Considering it doesn’t protect you against all cervical cancers and a pap smear is still required, I think it is a risk not worth taking.
(I answered no in the poll)
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Did you realize that the pneumovax doesn’t protect against all strains of pneumococcal, or the menc only protects against one type? The decisions to include certain immunizations on the free schedule are made based on stats of morbidity relating to strains etc. You are reacting to the hype that has been made about this one.
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are you serious!? i live in the USA and there is a massive backlash there against cervical cancer vaccine altogether, as it has caused so many problems and quite a few deaths. it could be banned soon before anything else…
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I am with you Anabella – there is no way in hell that I would subject myself to this particular vaccine in a fit. I don’t have children, but if I did this one vaccine they would not be getting. It’s a disgrace.
There is an article that was written a few years ago before the avalanche of adverse reports, that puts things into a bit of perspective:
http://www.whatwomenmustknow.com/pdfs/HPVandCervicalCancer.pdf
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No epidemiological studies have identified a cause-and-effect relationship between the vaccine and these reported side effects and deaths. Perhaps there IS a link, but it is also highly likely that many of the the incidents (such as seizures) that have been widely reported are just coincidences. If I suddenly had a seizure after having a cup of coffee, would you automatically assume that the coffee had CAUSED the seizure? No? So therefore a seizure (or other incident) occurring after a vaccination cannot be automatically assumed to have caused the seizure, and it is irresponsible to quote such examples as ‘proof’.
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Hey Tj,
My friend’s sister who did start suffering seizures amongst other symptoms after receiving gardasil was given every test possible to find a cause and the doctors concluded it was a reaction to the vaccine after ruling everything else out.
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The main thing that I wish my sex ed courses had done is creoevd both sexes. My sex ed in middle school separated the girls from the boys and taught us only, and cursorily, about female puberty and female sexual/reproductive issues. I was pretty intensely curious about the guy aspect (we were told pretty much nothing except how to put on a condom), and I know so many guys who really have no idea how the menstrual cycle works, the effects of HBC, and so on. I’d like it to be more comprehensive of birth control methods and menstrual supplies, with a focus on the practical aspects and the statistics, for boys and girls. I’d also like to see the boy’s issues (which I honestly don’t know what needs to be creoevd for a boy at that age) creoevd in the same depth for both. Also, this would probably be an appropriate time to discuss bras and how to pick a good one.My sex ed in high school was primarily scare tactics of SEX == STD (cue nasty photos). I’d like to see less of a stigma placed on STDs and see them dealt with more sensibly as this is how you can get it, it’s curable/treatable, this is what living with it is like . There should also be discussions of pregnancy, what goes on during pregnancy, what your options are if you become pregnant, and so on.One thing that I liked that it did that I wish it had gone further with is practicing saying no and setting boundaries with respect to various acts (yes, but) and how to remove yourself from situations you’re not comfortable with. Along that vein a discussion of relationship skills and relationship styles would be great teach the kids how to figure out what they want from a relationship and to negotiate their relationship boundaries. Teach them to identify abusive behavior and how to safely remove yourself from it, as well as how to avoid doing it.I’d also generally like to see more discussion on what sex is, why it’s enjoyable, when it’s appropriate, how you can do it right, etc. Explanation of foreplay, why it’s important, how to do it. Explanation that there are many different ways to orgasm and types of orgasm, as well as less emphasis put on orgasm as the point of sex. Explanation of porn, masturbation, sex toys. They’ll be too young to legally have a visit to a sex toy store, but bringing in guest speakers from a local store would be great. Also discusison of fetishes, nonhetero sex, and so on with guest speakers from the associated communities. A discussion of the sexual orientations in a nonbinary way. Explanations of transgender, transexual, genderqueer, and so on would be great, again ideally with a guest speaker on the topic. Basically whatever can be done to tell kids that that being nonstraight and nonvanilla is okay and not shameful or weird and introducing them to the concepts so that they don’t freak out. In fact, basically eliminate fear and shame and I’ll be happy.
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I’m pretty disgusted that so many people have been told NOT to get the vaccine if they’re in a relationship!
Prevention is the best cure and yeah you may be happy now but what happens 1, 5, 10 years down the track? What happens if you want another sexual partner? Do you just hold off until you’ve had your 3 doses before having sex?
Sounds idiotic to me
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I know, right. If that were the case you’d stop having pap smears when you were in a stable relationship.
I had the vaccine at 26, after being sexually active for ages, but it was still worth getting.
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Can anyone answer this – the advice seems to be that if you are in a settled relationship, you don’t need the vaccine. But, I have had a HPV infection in the past…so could having the vaccine prevent some times of abnormal cervical cells developing (ie cancers) (yep, I get you still need the smears, but hey, if you could prevent some types of cancer, why wouldn’t you?)
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ABSOLUTELY. The vaccine is useful even if you are in a r/ship and esp if you have had HPV in the past.
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I’ve had the vacccine despite being married and only having one sexual partner. My daughter and my son to be will both have it when they are old enough. Why the hell wouldn’t they?
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At the time these vaccines came out (i was 17) my first thought was, WHY dont they vaccinate the boys if they also spread it??
Why does it take the government so long to figure out what a 17 year old knew in two seconds???
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I had the vaccine last year .. and I’m 41. My doctor said that if I was in a settled relationship, don’t bother, but if I was still dating (which I was), then it’s a good idea. It must have been through my private health insurance, but I recall getting some of the money back .. which wasn’t really an issue anyway.
My doctor said that if they (the government) really wanted to eradicate HPV, they would do a blanket vaccination of all the boys. I can’t remember exactly what she said, but it was along the lines of the boys being the ones who spread it most readily.
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Sorry? Unless your doctor has some medical basis for saying that, that’s an incredibly sexist thing to say.
My partner caught warts years ago from his cheating girlfriend!
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My mum made sure both my brothers had the full course of Gardasil to protect themselves and future partners if necessary. She is awesome.
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at 26, i was lucky enough to have been part of the free vaccianations that the government was providing in my early 20′s. while they were the most painful shots i can remember, my doctor expressed her disappointment that males weren’t being vaccinated as well. she described men as ‘carriers’ of HPV & that they are less likely to suffer from it the same way women are, but they can also play a big part in preventing it spreading.
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My Ms 17 had it and my boys Messers 7&8 will have it when they are at the right age, gov help or not. However, believe wholeheartedly that Gov should pay or at least assist.
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I have three boys and they will all be having this vaccine when they are the appropriate age.
An oncologist friend of mine was at a conference where Ian Frazer was speaking, when asked the question of giving the vaccine to boys he said absolutely!
A male friend of mine has just finished treatment for throat cancer, they have attributed it to his having HPV. Boys get HPV too and it can harm them just as much as women.
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I have had HPV and early stage cervical abnormalities, however due to an early hysterectomy I am no longer at risk of cervical cancer. I am still at risk of the peripheral cancers though. I will definitely be vaccinating my daughter through the school program. As far as my son, he’s a step son so it’s really up to his mum and dad (my partner). I will be pushing this though, because I believe in the idea of herd immunity against preventable diseases. If something can be prevented, why on earth would you not want to? *ponders*
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Wow, the AVN are a bit slow today, aren’t they?
Seems a bit silly to only vaccinate half of the population who will be exposed to a disease, when you can do the whole lot.
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I live in Singapore and the vaccine is offered to adults as well. After having a positive pap smear it was suggested I have the vaccine to prevent a further HPV infection. Didn’t even have to think twice.
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Gardasil is a new kind of vaccine – the first of it’s type and as a result the long term effects are unknown even though clinical trials and use in the population has been encouraging.
However, it is important to note that there is some anecdotal evidence from the States that this vaccine can cause pretty serious complications in older girls, seemingly from particular populations. The reason for this appears to be unknown.
Australian girls don’t seem to be affected in the same way as girls in the USA have been, but I think that in theory giving Gardasil to boys and girls is a good idea, I would like to see more data collected from large international studies about side effects and long term effects first.
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There have been a number of women in Australia and other parts of the world, not just the USA which have been affected. While i agree prevention is a good thing I suggest that everyone who thinks about talking the vaccine fully investigates the potential side effects because they are absolutely devastating.
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A couple of years back I had “high grade squamous cells” removed from my cervix, they were caused by a HPV strain that is covered by the vaccine.
I’m all for universal vaccination, because otherwise how will we eradicate those viruses?
And I just want to emphasize that HPV is considered the common cold of sexually transmitted diseases and 80% of people will contract it at some stage during their lives. (So do not think badly of people who have/had it.) Most clear the virus from their system without ever knowing they had it, others will go on to develop cell changes that *could* develop into cancer.
My last 3 pap tests were clear, but I still have the HPV virus lurking in my body and will require more regular paps until my body clears the virus. Medicare will cover (once a year) a more detailed pap test that checks for the HPV virus, but it’s not routinely offered (although should be!).
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I asked my doctor about getting the extra HPV check when I got my pap smear, but she told me it cost more. Is it really covered my Medicare, because if so I’m cranky that I wasn’t able to access it!!
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I’ve never paid extra for the more thorough test, but I can only have that free every 12 months (and up until recently I was having 6 monthly tests), so I assumed they were fully covered for everyone. Maybe it has something to do with my history of having cervical changes?
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I’ve had 2 abnormal paps in the past year, so got a referral to get the more detailed test (forget the name). It’s $400 …. $150 back on Medicare.
Thank god my mum is a legend because I wouldn’t have much choice but to cross my fingers otherwise.
Flotsam I need to go where you go!
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I just dragged out my medical results and found this -
“In this instance and for women already undergoing annual cytological review following HSIL (high grade cervical lesions), HPV testing is Medicare rebateable provided that no more than 2 tests are performed in 2 years”.
Mine were CIN3 so maybe it has to be high-grade to get thest on Medicare?
Best of luck with your issues, anonymous! x
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Thanks for that
I think mine is only low grade, but two in a row is worth getting looked at I think. I’d rather prevent it now! Ergh.. I’m only 21.
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At my 4 year old son’s recent vaccination, the doctor explained the benefits of Gardasil for boys. She said that the medical profession are hoping that it becomes a government funded standard shot for pre-teen boys in the coming years (as it is now for girls). If it isn’t funded for my son by then, I’ll definitely be paying the $400+.
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I have not had the vaccine as I was pregnant when it first came out and so it wasn’t advisable, I was then too old for the govt. funded program anyway.
I am curious though, I have married my one and only sexual partner and I am his one and only too…. all being well this is how I intend to be for the rest of my life. Assuming there is no change in this arrangement does this mean I am not at risk of HPV (though obviously I am aware I am still at risk of cancer, just maybe not HPV related?).
Thanks for this article, I have 3 young boys (well almost 3, the 3rd is due in about 6 weeks) and I had never thought about this before. I guess when the time comes I will certainly look into the vaccination for them, fingers crossed it will be more affordable by then!
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If your husband is your one and only, then your chances of getting FPV from him are pretty much zero (provided that you too are his one and only).
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When the vaccine came out I had just gotten engaged. I had a clear pap smear and only three previous sexual partners including my then-fiance, now husband. My doc said if hubs and I don’t have other sexual partners I won’t need the vaccine, but if circumstances change then the vaccine is important. So as long as things remain the same for you, you shouldn’t contract HPV from your partner.
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My specialist told me that HPV has been known to stay dormant in the body for over 20 years before becoming active, but by a certain age (can’t remeber the exact age but it was younger than me!) 80% of sexually active people have been exposed to it so vaccinating is not usually recommended.
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Nice work, Rick!
I’m a big fan of vaccines and I’d absolutely have my boys jabbed with the Gardasil vax when they’re 12 regardless of whether the Govt will pay for it or not.
And just for the sake of being cautious, I’ll reiterate that women need to continue having pap tests even after they’ve had the Gardasil vax. It doesn’t cover you for ever type of HPV strain.
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I’ve just added that at the end to remind people, thanks for reminding me!
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Just want to point out you can still get cervical cancer after having the vaccine and pap smears are still necessary
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Bingo, yes!
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You might want to add the option “NO” as well….
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so are the use of condoms, which help to prevent the spread of HPV!!
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But are not fool proof for the spread of HPV.
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neither is the vaccine
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Hey Mamamia, you might want to fix the poll question to include the word “vaccine”. I’m assuming you’re not really wanting to know who I would wish cervical cancer on!
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I am so stupid. Going to fix…
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Claim you did it on your phone and blame autocorrect. I always have that up my sleeve for when I insult people online.
“Oops! I meant to say that your actions prove that you’re AWARE, not a whore”
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I am about to have a hysterectomy in 16 days due to cervical cancer (along with other issues) not caused by HPV, but i do not want my daughters or my son to have to endure this disease if it is in any way preventable.I have ensured my daughters who are old enough had Gardasil, and my others will be first in line.If it was available to my son i would not hesitate at all, even if it is not given for free $400 is such a small amount to prevent this cancer.
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My God amanda2, I hope everything goes well for you. 10 years ago I had part of my cervix removed (diagnosed CIN 3, caused by HPV), and that was traumatic enough.
I completely agree that Gardasil should be available to both boys and girls, and may amanda2′s story be a reminder to everyone to keep having their pap smears.
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That was ment to read “caused by HPV, NOT “not” .My head is clearly not working today.
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best of luck witht he surgery xx
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Best of luck Amanda2. I’m going in to have the top of my cervix removed (CIN3, also caused by HPV) in a couple of weeks and every day count my blessings as I was told I should prepare for what you’re going through.
Thinking of you, big hugs.
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Nothing like a good vaccination debate early in the morning to get every one revved up. You will always get people violently divided on vaccinations. People should do whatever they think is right for them. I myself believe in vaccination. People who dont vaccinate their kids and themselves rely on the herd immunity of the rest of the population to protect themselves, unfortunately the more of the “herd” who choose not to vaccinate weaken that phenomena as witnessed in the north coast of NSW amongst other places where the levels of things like whooping cough are sharply rising. Whilst I realise that HPV is very different to whooping cough, the progression to cervical cancer from HPV is unpleasant to say the least and can involve some very painful treatment. As with a lot of other STI’s HPV is not always physically evident in a partner and as you can see from the article is a lot more prevalent than most people think. I agree that educating kids about abstinence and safe sex is a must but the teenage brain doesn’t finish developing until their early 20′s and unfortunately the bit that helps them make the good decisions in their frontal lobe is the last bit to develop so the same risk taking behaviour that makes them drive like maniacs also means they aren’t necessarily going to be abstinent or safe when it comes to sex. I have 3 daughters and they will all be having this vaccine, if I had sons they would be having it too.
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I will definitely be getting my son a HPV vaccine – paying or not. If my paying $400 reduces his risk of cancer, then that’s a small price. Though it should be govt subsidised as it is for girls. I was also a part of the HPV vaccine trial. There may be rare side effects, but millions of women are now protected against cervical cancer and warts.
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If boys are vaccinated too, will that help protect girls? Ie will it decrease the overall incidence and spread in the community of HPV?
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It will, the more people protected the less chance of HPV spreading.
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I would definitely have my son vaccinated if it were govt funded – the more so as this implies govt support. I will consider it anyway, but $400 makes me think twice.
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My friend’s sister had an awful reaction to Gardasil, she started having seizures after receiving the vaccine.
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A terrible thing, but people can react that way to any vaccine. Or medicine. Sometimes, a vaccine just doesn’t sit with your body right.
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Not to mention if the boys get the vaccine, they won’t spread it onto other women if they catch it…
I have a nursing friend who was in charge of the vaccination program at the surgery she worked at a couple of years ago. She said that she believed then that the men should also be getting the shots.
While I haven’t had the vaccination myself being older, my daughter had the vaccinations last year in Year 7. I see it as as a good idea to get it before it ever becomes an issue – in the same way that Rubella vaccinations are given way before the girls are thinking of starting their future families.
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How much is it?
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About $450 a pop, if not funded by the Govt.
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I’m 31, so I guess not. I know it’s not a lot of money all things considered – but it’s still out of reach for a lot of people.
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I got the three necessary jabs of Gardasil – as I was found to have pre-cancerous cells after a routine pap smear. I have been meaning to get back for another one – thanks for the heads up!
Also, people need to be EXTREMELY careful when it comes to warts. As people can get normal warts anywhere, they can end up on the penis. My ex had one on his, and the doc told me it can cause HPV – leading to cancer.
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That’s a myth. They are two different types of warts. Also, the warts don’t cause HPV- they ARE HPV. Also, the “wart” type of HPV is the least likely to cause cancer- so those who have genital warts have generally caught a less cancerous strain of HPV. Also, Rick, can you make it very clear in the story that HPV is genital warts? I think people don’t understand this enough.
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Sure thing, I’ll add a few lines to clarify
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Actually arent genital warts just one particular strain of HPV? – There are about four strains.
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I got the Gardasil vaccine in the free program a few years ago. There’s a clear benefit in immunising both genders here, and if we can wipe out one source of STIs like this, why wouldn’t we?
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Makes sense to me!
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There have been so many bad side effects and permamant damage caused by this vaccine, and so much controversy all over the world about it, I cant believe its now being promoted for boys too… and MM is doing the promoting??? How absurd – I know this probably isnt a sponsored post but it sure feels like one – so many people are steering clear of it, its like they need to push the excess onto the boys now? Gahhhh, sorry but I am so cross to see MM promoting this kind of thiing!!
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There have been 40 million Gardasil doses worldwide.
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What research? I haven’t read any reputable research as yet, just scare-mongering.
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I disagree entirely with you ‘research first’ Thanks MM for promoting the ‘awareness’ of the vaccine and the risks if HPV in boys!
As with anything, parents and the men themselves should research the vaccine and decide for themselves whether it’s right for them. Nor Rick or MM are telling you to go straight to your GP, do not pass Go, do not collect $200 and get your son/husband etc. injected. They are simply informing their readers that the vaccine is available for males and you might wish to consider it. I also was blissfully unaware that men can get cancer from the HPV virus until now, so if this article has done anything – it’s created further awareness and the effects of the potentially life threatening virus.
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Pretty sure the risk of contracting HPV is much much much higher than any serious side effects that could be caused by the vaccine….
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Starting from the 8th grade, they should stsres madly on STD education. About the risk you’re putting yourself in every time you have sex. Safe sex matters, not just about the risk of pregnancy but a lot about STDs. What’s permanent, what’s not etc. Everything.A lot of girls in high school might think sleeping around is bad because they would be called a slut but really, it’s the risk of getting an STD that’s the real risk I think. Things like that could be brought into perspective.
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