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Screen shot 2012 01 05 at 3.50.15 PM 380x283 A very personal story from Meshel Laurie

I had such a stressful day yesterday – I was up at 5 to co host The Circle, which was fantastic fun as always.   I know a 5am start seems crazy for a show that starts at 9am, but there’s a lot of hair, make up, meetings, and script writing to be done before Paul Henry puts his grin away for the day.

I raced straight down to my car at 11.30 with a long mental list of jobs I wanted to achieve before clocking on for my radio shift at 2.30, (we are on air at 4, but we get together at 2.30) only to find my car wouldn’t start.  I knew it was the starter motor from the get-go.  Long story short, I spent the next 8 hours paying for taxis and reminding the RACV I existed, over and over and over and over ……

I got none of the most important jobs done, didn’t see my kids all day and at one point bit down hard on a philips-head screw that had been baked into a brownie.

Yesterday was a bad day, but I didn’t cry or freak out once.  I didn’t even lose my temper until well into the 7th RACV hour, and even then it was a very minor little moment.  I didn’t swear at anyone.  I didn’t snap.  When I finally made it to bed last night I was terribly, tired-ly proud of myself, because for the last 2 weeks I’ve been weening myself of my anti depressant, which I am going to call “x”.

I’ve been taking various anti-Ds for years.  At first they were such a relief I couldn’t believe anyone wouldn’t take them.  They made me feel calm, and though not “happy” exactly, I didn’t feel miserable.  I was just numb, and I really liked it.

When I started taking them I was living in a place I hated, doing a job that I loved with people I hated, struggling with fertility problems, just wishing every bit of my life was different basically.  I was a stressed-out powder keg of emotion with a very short fuse at home, because I was desperate and helpless at work.

When I finally fell pregnant, one doctor told me I shouldn’t need them anymore because the pregnancy should make me happy.  Another doctor told me my history put me at very high risk of post-natal depression, and I should under no circumstances stop taking them.   He put me on “x”.

Since then I’ve seen 4 different doctors across 2 states and described the same hideous symptoms, and each one of them has blinked, blank-faced at me like they’ve never heard of them before.

I told them all about this strange feeling I’ve having which I called “the shudders”.  It’s really hard to explain what the shudders feel like.  It’s kind of like a heart palpitation, but it comes from my head.  It’s like that feeling of adrenalin belting you from inside when you get a fright, there’s no fright involved.  When a shudder hits me, I feel like I must look like I’ve been thumped in the back of the head with a pillow.  Ugh, the shudders.

The shudders felt like withdrawal.  The problem was that, I was feeling the shudders when I shouldn’t have been withdrawing, like when I’d taken my pill at exactly the right time every day for ages.  I know I could swap to another pill, but the feeling of withdrawal just reminded me that I am addicted to a drug, and I don’t want to be!

That’s the story I’ve told every doctor without the slightest glimmer of recognition.  I saw another doctor about 2 weeks ago, told him the same story, and he at least believed me!   I decided that the only way to be rid of the shudders was to kick the habit altogether and he advised me on how to do it.  So I started scaling down my dosage 2 weeks ago.  I also paid a visit to Dr Google which really gave me the shits.

I have found a seemingly endless number of forum posts from people who’ve felt the exact same symptoms as me on “x”.  My “shudders” are known as “Brain shivers” online, but they are definitely the same thing.  The stories I’ve found about kicking “x” are pretty uniform; intense brain shivers, stomach upset, uncontrollable crying and moodiness, flu-like symptoms.  Well I had them all for the first week, but I pushed on,  and now I’m down to one third of my original dose, and it’s much easier.

I know my anxiety and depression may return, but my hope is that I’ll be able to control them naturally, and yesterday gave me a lot of confidence.  All I know for sure is that every aspect of my life is so much better now than it was when I started taking medication, so I’m hoping that maybe I can handle my tendency toward depression and anxiety without it.

Please don’t anyone jump off their meds because I am.  I don’t even know if it’s a good idea for me yet, let alone for anyone else.  I am being monitored closely by my excellent new doctor.

It’s not all plain sailing of course.  I am now sweating from my head.  Would you believe it?  Sweating so much it runs down my face and my hair is sopping wet.  I googled it .  It’s another common symptom.  Ugh.

Meshel Laurie is a comedian and broadcaster. You can catch up with her on Nova’s Drive Show with Tim Blackwell and Marty Sheargold 4-6pm on weekdays. You can also follow Meshel on Twitter here.

Please be aware that this is Meshel’s story. It is not to be taken as medical advice or testimony. If you are on medication you should and must speak to your doctor before thinking of stopping. If you need to speak to someone about your depression or anxiety contact your GP or Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636

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  1. Edwina

    Ahhh, the Effexor (just guessing?) shudders. I had them myself when I weaned off that horrible stuff a few years ago. I called them brain zaps too ( I see someone below has). It felt like getting a thudding electric shock to the back of the head.

    Never again. HORRIBLE. And like you, my doctor knew nothing about it, and the internet knew everything.

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  2. Anonymous

    Brain shivers/zaps yep i definitely get them and most drs just tell me to keep trying and they should go away. Wish they knew exactly what they feel like!!

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  3. Anonymous

    I read your story with great interest.My son aged only 11 yrs old was perscribed an anti D in the sertraline family of meds , to “control” his mild to moderate symtoms of anxiety related to his again mild to moderate touretts syndrom.He has been taking what we now know is an adult does of 50mg for the past two years thanks to our blind faith in his doctor, a doctor hailed as an expert in his feild.We recently changed doctors due to a range of issues and his new pysch was alarmed at the dosage and length of time he has been taking it , and due to what we now think is an extreme behaviour reaction to the the drug, have decided to ween him off it .Today is his first day of taking half (25mg) , the symtoms you descibed have me in tears , is this what my little boy will also suffer? Any suggestions to help him through this , I feel so stupid for not asking doctor yesterday( doctor will be calling on fri to check progress and just said to keep an eye on him) but honestly didnt give it too much thought and till clicking on mamamia and reading your story .

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    • Meshel Laurie

      Hey! Don’t stress about something that may never happen, ok? He may not suffer any of these symptoms. If he does, it won’t last forever, and a few days in bed will do him a world of good.

      You did the best thing you knew how to do. You are a great mum. Just keep your head up and keep talking and listening. The more I hear about coping with depression and anxiety, the more I realize there is no “right” way. He is so lucky to have a mum who’s on this journey with him.

      All my love to you and your boy.

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      • Anonymous

        Thanks for your kind words,I just made the BIG mistake of clicking on doc google, wont be going back there!! We have a rather large and busy family , after reading comments I think I will take him away some where peaceful for a few days and give him some space in case he does suffer from the withdrawals.

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    • Anonymous

      You are doing the best thing by weaning him off it! Children are resilient and I am sure he will be fine and not remember this. SO much better to get him off now rather than be trying to wean off 10 years later like I am !
      I disagree with children taking AD. I feel like it is just a bandaid on the problems and often numbs feelings so the issues cannot be dealt with. If you deal with the anxiety now and he learns what triggers it and how to deal with it then it could stop it worsening in the future!

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      • Ess

        I get so angry at people spouting off medical advice such as this. Especially under and anonymous name. If you are not a doctor then DO NOT go giving people any medical advice, especially poor advice, and without knowing a thing about the person.

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        • Anonymous

          And I get SO angry seeing children being put on very high doses of antidepressants by doctors who clearly do not understand the risks. I am actually a neuroscientist so this is not ‘poor advice’ it is supported by evidence. Of course this mother is trying to do the best for her child and was taking the advice of the doctor. I am frustrated for her that she trusted this doctor, her child had bad side effects and she’s now worried about the withdrawal from the medicine he prescribed. Medicine is very helpful in certain cases and for some people but it is concerning when doctors mis-prescribe so often and at great cost to the patient!

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    • Uptightoutasight

      It’s ok. A lot of children who have certain conditions use sertraline, particularly children with autism spectrum disorders as they help them cope with anxiety. Also, many adults take way more than 50 mgs. I have been on as high as 200 and am now on 50 with no symptoms when I cut back 50 mgs at a time at 3 monthly intervals.

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  4. maz

    Thank you so much for sharing Meshel. We can read the statistics about what percentage of people will suffer from mental illness and how common anti-depressant usage is in this country, but it’s still easy to fall into the trap of thinking that’s a ‘them’ thing, not an ‘us’ thing.

    I was on a mild anti-depressant for about two years (and probably should’ve started earlier than I did tbh) about 5 1/2 years ago and am now functioning pretty well without them after ending a destructive relationship and getting counselling for self esteem and panic attack issues. I have found other ways of coping and keeping my mind and emotions in check and live a pretty stable, healthy life these days. But I find the more people I tell about my issues past/present, the more people will open up about theirs and the more I realise we all have burdens, struggles and dysfunctional moments in our lives, no matter how successful, loved or capable we may seem to the outside world. We are all human with good days and bad days.

    So I thank you again Meshel, because seeing successful people like you be open about their lives like this makes us all feel less alone, less ‘abnormal’, less hopeless in our struggles. Cheers and here’s hoping the nasty side effects subside for you soon. xx

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  5. lurline

    Meshel, I really admire you and not just for your fashion sense :D I am not ready to give up my meds, and am not sure I ever will be, but good on you for seeing if you can cope without them.

    In connection with other people’s comments I wanted to say that I went over 2 years having virtually no libido, and unable to get anywhere near an orgasm. A change of antidepressant, total (weaned) stopping of an anti-psychotic, and my libido and ability to enjoy sex have gone through the roof.

    Also over a 17 year period of being on different and varied antidepressants, what doesn’t work for you at one stage of your life, may work at another. If you can’t stand side-effects, or feel numb rather than human, you can always ask your doctor to try another med. Trial and error until you get the right drug is the key.

    There is also a genetic test that can be done (I got a free test as part of a trial so I have no idea of costs) that can identify if a person is genetically prone to depression, and which antidepressants, or combination should work best for them. If anybody is fighting depression and having trouble finding a med that works for them, then this may be a good test to enquire about with their doctor.

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    • lurline

      Another benefit of coming off the antipsychotic and changing antidepressants is that I have lost nearly 40kg. I still have a long way to go, but finding clothes that were way too small a year ago are now way too big is an awesome feeling. The weightloss has plateaued in the last 12 months, but I am still losing inches, my doctor explains it as I am gaining muscle which weighs more than fat. So not losing weight at the moment, just having much healthier weighty material.

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      • Anonymous

        May I ask which anti d your now on ?

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        • lurline

          Effexor, I had been on it before with minimal effect, but this time it just seems to have clicked.

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  6. bee

    Thanks for sharing Meshel! I have been listening to your radio podcasts for about 4 years now and you have always appeared “together” and “with it” and generally compsed (as much as you can be as a comedian!). Though hindsight is a funny thing… reading this now, I think I can guess a few people/things that werent ideal a few years back. Hope everything keeps trucking forward for you!

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  7. sarahlou

    Thanks for this brave post, Meshel. Reminds me to check in with my friend and see how she’s going with all her new medications – hopefully they can make her feel better. Good luck with the rest of it xx

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  8. Cara

    Yep, been there, had the ‘brain zaps’ as I called them too. And I was also in a hideous job which contributed to not getting pregnant AND being depressed.

    In the end I found that things had improved enough for the side effects of the AD not to be worth it. Weaning off them was horrendous but I haven’t gone back.

    I am not sure if you have ever had session with a psychologist but I found that was much more useful for my long term mental health. The ADs just got me through the short-term crisis.

    All the best and thanks for sharing!

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  9. HPK

    It is very scary that Doctors prescribe medication without knowing the side effects. You would think that this issue would have been a topic in medical journals.

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  10. K

    What helps me:
    - journalling
    - meditation
    - talking things through with hubbie
    - putting the covers over my head and letting whatever emotions come out that need to
    - avoiding comparing myself to others/ my ideal version of myself
    - reading Byron Katie’s books
    - walking in nature
    - drinking a lot of fresh fruit and veg juices
    - scaling back on stressors/commitments
    - imagining I don’t have long to live in order to give myself permission to enjoy the present (not being suicidal mind you, just a Buddhist technique)

    Have tried counselling and medication at various times in my life, not much help for me but am always open to new ideas.

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  11. Trog

    Meshel, Very impressed on several levels:

    1. That you shared this as a public figure.
    2. That you’re having a crack at getting med free in a very sensible manner.
    3. That you cautioned others on not following your course of action without careful consideration or professional help.
    4. And not least, that you knew what a Philips head screw was!

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  12. ladybird

    I too took them after my baby was born nearly four years ago, chats with psychs and counsellors really heped me see a pattern of anxiety throughout my whole life. I went off them after a while, only to need to go back on after a couple of months. I am now off them an dhave been for a couple of years however it sometimes takes some strong self talk when I can feel the anxiety and depression creeping back in…thanks for sharing Meshel, I always lvoe your stories but this one in particular. I talk ALOT about my depression and anxiety. If I can help one person, then it’s all worthwhile.

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  13. Amy

    This “Since then I’ve seen 4 different doctors across 2 states and described the same hideous symptoms, and each one of them has blinked, blank-faced at me like they’ve never heard of them before.” seems to be the biggest issue!
    My SIL is on meds and hates them, my Sister TOTALLY had PND but her doctor didn’t even mention it…despite the fact that she STILL visits her every week with some new illness even though her youngest is 2. So, so frustrating that GPs don’t seem to be educated on mental illness. It leaves very few avenues for people to get a start on trying to get better.
    My take on mental illness is this: if you broke your leg, you would see someone, get some pain meds, get a plaster cast, maybe some physical therapy…so mental illness should be treated the same…a combination of many things to work on making life easier for the person suffering from it.

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    • Anonymous

      YES!

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    • Anonymous

      exactly what my friends said when i reached out for help!

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  14. fiashco

    Thank you for sharing. While it’s never nice to think of someone else experiencing depression and anxiety, it can be a relief to hear of others’ experiences. it’s hard enough ‘reading in’ family and friends when you want to share that you have depression or anxiety but to have to educate a doctor about it is just not right.

    Many people doubt their symptoms, as you did, and to be rebuffed by several doctors would make most people think they are over reacting so I’m so glad that you followed up and finally got some answers.

    Keep going, I’ve been off my AD’s for years now, I have had times when I thought I might be heading that way but my awareness of it helps to be proactive about managing it early.

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  15. ber

    I have had a bad withdrawal experience recently after having taken Cymbalta for about 18 months. I was moved up to 120mg — rather a high dose — and couldn’t contend with the sleep disturbance and other side effects that arose on the higher dose. So my doctor suggested that I stop taking it altogether. I weaned over five days and had nothing on days six or seven. By day seven, I was a complete wreck: clammy, shivery, nauseated, dizzy, and wigging out.

    Those brain shivers are what I call electric shocks. There is a strange feeling when you turn your head, for example, where it’s like the inside of your head cannot quite catch up to the outside’s movements.

    I had to start taking the Cymbalta again, but at 60mg a day.

    I’d love to see how I’d go without taking any ADs at all, but it’s a scary thought when you’ve been on them for eight years.

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    • Sophie

      Hi Ber,

      I have recently come off 120mg (too high!!) of Cymbalta (I had sleep disturbance too!!), and I did it over a couple of months. I halved each two weeks till I got to 15(mg), then by this point the withdrawal effects were kicking in so I stopped altogether. I thought if I was going to have the effects anyway, I may as well be off the meds!! What followed was absolutely hideous!! I was unable to function for about 4 weeks with all the symptoms you describe. After that, the brain shivers/shocks/zaps remained and I was really moody. But now, another 4 weeks down the track, I am totally free of symptoms and feel like myself again.

      I am writing this to encourage you for your next go at coming off the meds. Take it really slow, take a couple of weeks off work, wallow and be moody, do what ever it takes to feel like you can make it through each day (for me that was eating lots!), but you WILL get there!! There were days I didn’t think I would ever get back to feeling normal again, and not have my brain interrupted by zaps, but I did!! And you will too!! :-)

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  16. Carolyn

    Please read ‘Take Control of your Health and escape the sickness industry’ by Elaine Hollingsworth – I know, it’s a terrible title but the first chapter is all about depression and how a few drops of Iodine each day can help. Her book is available online at her website ”Doctors are Dangerous’.
    Best of luck with your journey.

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    • Kaz

      Sorry, but a few drops of iodine? Doctors are dangerous? Yes diet is important. Yes we need to take responsibility for our own health. Yes doctors are fallible humans too. But this smacks of simplistic thinking to me. No disrespect intended.

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    • MJ

      Sounds like that book is the dangerous thing to me.

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    • Izzy

      Iodine would be completely useless if you had no thyroid! Sounds like if iodine helped you, your problem was your thyroid. Perhaps a doctor could have diagnosed that ….. Just a thought.

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  17. Kaz

    Good on you for being honest, Meshel. We need to keep openly discussing these issues instead of festering away in private feeling ashamed and alone.

    What amazes me, is how common depression and anxiety are. Every second person I know it seems, me included. Would love to know what’s up with that.

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  18. Anonymous

    I love Meshel. Her contagious giggles, her ability to tell stories and for just being her. All other comments in relation to this article are from fellow anti-D takers. But for me who’s never needed such drugs, I appreciate the stories to help give us none users an understanding of the battles you go through. Thanks Meshel.

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  19. meg

    Thank you so much for sharing your story, I have been through the same things and I am now not taking any anti-depressant or anxiety medication. It can be a bumpy road but it does get easier. You are so brave for sharing your story and I admire your honesty and bravery in sharing.

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  20. Mel

    Omg meshel, brain shivers is the perfect description!!!! I described it to my dr as an electric current shorting out every minute or so. She just looked at me and said “mmmmhmmmmm”. All the best with your journey xxx

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  21. :)

    Oh meshel great article, I went through the same ‘shudders’ when and went off mine but my GP was brilliant and told me to first cut the dose by half etc.

    but i must say, dr google needs to be sacked. he/she is no good!

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  22. Titian Judy

    You’re doing ok Meshel.

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  23. Anon

    Hi Meshel – I took anti-depressants in my early 20′s and again when I developed post-natal depression in my late 20′s. I know exactly what you are describing with the shudders, and also had the same blank looks from doctors when I reported this side-effect. It used to feel like I’d had my own personal mini-earthquake inside my head. Why isn’t this more widely reported within the medical community? Anyway, I’m glad you’re coming off them responsibly. x

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  24. oddsocks

    I have been on and off anti-depressants since I was a teenager, so about 15 years now. I am back on at the moment and I have no intention of ever stopping them. Every single moment of every single day is a battle for me when I am off them. On them I feel alive, I feel more in control, I have more energy and motivation to do the things I love.
    I find it really interesting to hear so many people describing the ‘numbness’, lack of creativity etc as side effects as I have only experienced those symptoms due to depression not the meds!
    Anyone who is experiencing bad side effects or feeling like they are addicted please talk to your doctor and think about trying a new medication. There are lots of different types available, something may suit else you better.
    Oh and good luck Meshel, I hope you succeed medication free but if not don’t be scared to try something else…… they are not all bad.

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  25. sjb1273

    I still can’t believe that taking 1 1/2 little white pills every morning helps me function as a normal human being. Brain chemistry is amazing. Medicine is amazing. Coping is mental illness is the hardest thing many of us will ever do (and this includes giving birth to babies with or without drugs).

    I’m on medication to combat anxiety and depression too and I think it can take a couple of tries to see which medication works well for you and which don’t. I initially started off taking something I’ll call ‘st’ and it wasn’t the one for me. I was asleep all day and up all night. I had brain shivers; they only way I can describe them is like ‘a glitch in the matrix’ that you only feel inside your head like a burst of static that is truly discombobulating. I was so tired I felt like I was walking through treacle – but at least I wasn’t crying all day and I could get out of bed.
    So after a few weeks my GP and I realised it wasn’t getting any better so we tried another drug. This one works a treat :) ) Some emotional numbness is present but I’m anxiety/depression free 95% of the time and back at work and actively parenting – both things that seemed insurmountable at one time.

    Talk about mental health! With people! Ask people how their heads are!

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    • elle

      can you reveal what AD you take now?

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  26. shan

    thank you so much for sharing your story x

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  27. Anuther Mia

    Wow, Meshel, I had to stop myself from standing up at my desk and applauding you. You are incredibly brave and the openness and honesty of your story hits home to my heart.

    Good luck with it all. I really hope you’re on the path now to be able to control it all naturally …. for what it’s worth, I tried many “anti-D” natural remedies and found none of them worked *for me* however when I started taking natural remedies for hormonal fluxuations/period issues my depression/anxiety suddenly came good! So now I take Evening Primrose Oil, Vitex, a slow-release MultiVitamin, Iron, Magnesium and Calcuim.

    Thanks so much for your story.
    xx

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    • elle

      Hi Mia
      I am interested in your success with natural remedies. Can I ask what age you are? (I know that sometimes menopausal women have depression/anxiety linked to hormones). How did you know what to take? Thanks

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      • Anuther Mia

        Hi Elle,

        I am *ahem* 41. I had a hysterectomy two years ago and whilst it wasn’t radical and I still have my ovaries it seemed to tip my hormones over into a semi-menopause state. I was having night sweats, hot flashes like no tomorrow, mood swings, zero libido, fatigue, headaches … really too many symptoms to list here. Hence I started chatting to naturopaths, pharmacists and doctors and looking into countless different supplements (and, yes, spent many hours online reading different studies etc on the web). I have to say I kind of stumbled on ‘my mix’ and probably spent a lot of money trying things that I didn’t feel worked for me. Live and learn. A couple of them are no-brainers for me like the multi (I am a busy mum of 3, 1 of whom is profoundly disabled), the iron (I am often anemic), the magnesium (is to help the horrendous night cramps I sometimes get) and the calcium (apart from the obvious I was told by a naturopath that magnesium needs calcium to be transported to a cellular level). All of that aside the two that I felt made such a big difference hormonally were Vitex (Chaste Berry) – it is supposed to level out your hormones so there is not the huge surges at different times of the month (think that week before your period where everything is just awful) – and the Evening Primrose Oil (I take 6 a day). A couple of times in the last few years I have run out and not bothered buying more for a little while and oh my goodness what a difference … it doesn’t take long for the decent into darkness to begin.

        I’m sorry, all of that probably doesn’t help much but that is my story. I hope it helps anyhow!

        Take care,
        Mia :) x

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  28. Bradley

    As someone who suffers from recurring bouts of depression, I’m wondering if perhaps you haven’t taken on too much work. I know what happens to my head when I take on too much.

    Are you trying to be everywhere all at once ? TV, radio, writing, family etc. People can only spread themselves so thinly about the place, after all. If we could only be identical triplets and take turns at going out as the others came in.

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    • sigh...

      a typical comment from you Bradley…..

      good on you Meshel, thanks for sharing your story, brave for someone in the public spotlight to “put it out there” so personally

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      • lurline

        I don’t think Bradley is being unrealistic at all with his comment, sometimes those of us with depression and anxiety try to do more than we are capable of, because we feel we should be able to do it all.

        I see Meshel a couple of times a week, and I don’t personally see that she is in that situation, but it is something she should consider, and she is the only one who can accurately judge if that is the case.

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      • Bradley

        Do you mean “typical” as in I’ve described what I go through and asked someone if the they go through the same ?

        Or do you mean “typical” as in you’d disagree with whatever I say whenever I say it regardless of topic ?

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      • sarahlou

        What? Bradley’s comment was couched in concern, not negativity. Sigh indeed.

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  29. Anonymous

    Oh my golly gosh MEshel, I don’t know if ‘x’ is actually Effexor but I get those same shudders from Effexor. Horrible. You don’t have time to be depressed because you’re just worrying about not falling over, maintaining your concentration, etc.

    And thank you for the share – lovely :)

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    • Susan As Well

      Yes. I was prescribed Effexor. Never again! Head “shocks”, weight gain of 20 kg over three months and sleep? I was like one of those babies who can’t self settle for more than half an hour. It was so ugly! As these problems occurred, the doctor increased the dose in a misguided attempt to deal with the problems. Not the doctor’s fault but I have no fond memories of Effexor. It works well for some people, just not me and others I have spoken to.

      I went searching through the literature to find out why my head felt so jittery and as though my brain was being jabbed with a thousands needles every half hour or so. I found it documented as a widely reported side effect of Effexor a couple of years ago.

      Thanks for sharing your story Meshel :)

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      • Nicole

        Throughout reading this whole article if was thinking about Effexor too! I’ve been on it for a while now (I’m 18) and when I miss just one day I go into complete self-destruction mode and honestly, I am scared of myself and what I’ll do. Uncontrollable crying, dizziness, shaking, being more suicidal than usual. And then I was put on a high dosage and had all of those side-effects and then sleep disturbances as well daily. I really really hate being on Effexor, but I’m too scared to try and get off them because I know what I’m like without them for one day. Sigh.

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        • Susan As Well

          I came off it in three days with reducing doses. I had my GP’s phone number to call if things got a bit awful but I just shut myself away from the world with DVD’s and M&M’s for the three days. I was then on Lovan for about a year – I responded much, much better to it.

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          • Anon for this

            I have been told by my (very good) doctor that it can be very dangerous coming off Efexor quickly. Please be careful if you are reading this stuff and thinking you might try coming off it too. Please speak to your doctor first about how to go about this.

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  30. Claire

    Meshel, you never cease to amaze me. I wish you the best.

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  31. thatgirlfiona

    Meshel, I admire you on so many levels. I’ve just been watching old Can of Worms episodes online, and after reading your article about the Greatest Shave, I wrote a blog post about how awesome the whole thing (and you) are. Thanks for being so honest about your experiences with Anti-depressants! :)
    This is interesting timing for me, because after about a year off, I’ve just started back on anti-d’s. I liked not being addicted to anything, I liked being “normal”. But it got to the stage where I couldn’t sleep, and what I think was ptsd was making it hard for me to cope with everyday life. I was crying too often. But now I’m back on the medication, and it’s weird. I am sleeping much better, but constantly feeling tired. Embarrassingly (but from what I’ve heard, commonly enough) I’m struggling to achieve orgasm, and that’s a reaaaaaaal bummer. (TMI? Sorry guys, haha) And while it’s nice not to be crying all the time… I kinda miss how a good cry could get things out of my system. I can’t cry now. Feeling a bit dead inside.

    Aha anyway, I’m intrigued to hear other peoples stories. Again, thank you Meshel! :)

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    • shan

      do you mind sharing the dose you are on TGF?

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      • thatgirlfiona

        Uh, haha, sure. I was on 25 mg of Zoloft, which is pretty much nothing, but have gone up to 50, with the possibility of increasing to 100 (I’d prefer not..) 50 is still pretty low, but I guess I am a small (ish?) girl? My body doesn’t do so well with medication and any increase is a huge jolt to my system. Bleurgh!

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        • shan

          thank you. helps with my decision…

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    • Susan As Well

      Sexual dysfunction is commonly reported by people on antidepressants. Very sad when you’re already depressed to have another thing added to the list of life problems :(

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      • LellaK

        I have the same TGF, boyfriend is lovely and understanding about it. it does happen just takes a lot longer and from other activities – not intercourse. It has more been my sex drive – i have to kick start it myself instead of being turned on automatically by my partner. I have sex even if im not in the mood – I still like it and find it relaxing and i like satisfying my partner even if i currently am taking my time adjusting

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      • CE

        Yepah and sadly it doesn’t magically fix itself after – I used to find it fairly ‘easy’ to ahem ‘get there’ but 1.5 years off them and I’m not back to the way I was but luckily my partner and I have found other ways to make it happen :)

        Mine also made me gain weight, definately not a pick me up! Luckily most of it came back off when I was well enough to stop taking them.

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        • thatgirlfiona

          Aha, I’m so glad people know what I’m talking about! It’s a real down-side, because it took me a while to get my first orgasm, only a couple of months ago I started! And in the last few weeks.. Nup.. Nothing. It’s so disappointing. I too, have a lovely boyfriend who seems to be okay with it, though very determined :P

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          • Me

            I take 20mg of Lexapro daily and I have an inkling it is causing delays for me and lowering my sex drive too

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  32. Lil

    Thanks for being brave enough to share such a personal story. I too am on anti Ds. I don’t talk about it with anyone and find it both embarrassing and shameful to admit my illness. The side affects make me miserable. On the positive side my sleep has improved dramatically and I am more in control of my life. The thought of living without this prop is terrifying to me.

    Meshel I commend you for sharing your story and for being brave enough to try and wean down your medication in spite of the side effects. Best of luck. I sincerely hope you achieve your goal without too much angst along the way.

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  33. Mooner

    Oh Meshel, that sounds like a very tough thing to tackle but I am glad that through the difficulty you are seeing a reward :)

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  34. Daughter of a Mum with depression

    Meshel, thank you for this post, it’s inspiring. My mum has been on ADs and various other drugs since she was 14. She’s now 65 and addicted with many horrible side effects. I was wondering why you won’t name the drug you have weaned from? It might help someone who is on it perhaps? Thanks again.

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  35. Lu

    Best wishes Meshel, I think you’re fabulous :)

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  36. Long time Meshel fan

    Wow. I have been listening to you for ages, back with Ash and Kip and then through all the iterations after. I was glad you stayed, you were always my favourite.

    I would never have guessed that you were going through all this from listening to you on the radio, and I am so impressed by your strength and resilience.

    Keep doing what you do, you make so many people happy. I was sad when you moved to afternoons, because it was nice to start my day with a laugh on the way to work. But now I appreciate the laugh on the way home!

    Thank you for what you do and who you are,

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  37. Becstar

    you are so brave Meshel. I have been on anti D’s now for 11 years. They were the best thing to happen to me at the time, but the ‘numbness’ is the pay off. My creativity left me. I stopped writing, and haven’t ventured back because the urge just isnt’ there anymore. That said, the suicidal thoughts have gone too, so its a worthwhile payoff. The brain is an organ and just like I have to have insulin everyday as my pancreas no longer functions properly, I need my pills to keep my brain on track. You are so brave in so many ways, you’ve become a bit of a hero to me.

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  38. Lex

    Oh I am right there with you, I’ve been weaning myself of Lexapro for 4 weeks now, I’m down to half of my dose and feel like I’m really starting to get somewhere. Good luck, I too understand your desire to not be addicted and I too have no idea if life without Lexapro is something achievable….guess we’ll both find out soon enough! X

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    • CE

      I experienced lots of side effects coming off Lexapro but I stuck with it and am glad my doctor and I made the decision to come off it once I was well enough. Best of luck, it was horrid to come off – Even though I didn’t feel I was addicted to the drug, it was pretty clear from the side affects how much my body was! I also lost 75% of the weight I put on while I was on it over 2 years – a side affect my dr neeelcted to tell me until I brought it up after noticing (he always thought I was a bit thin so probably like the idea!).

      Best wishes with it all xoxo

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      • Me

        Do you guys experience any side effects from Lexapro?
        I’m on 20mg daily and thinking its about time to come off it now and glnd out how my brain will do on its own.
        what withdrawal symptoms have you experienced

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        • CE

          I only took 10mg, I experience night sweats, weight gain, sexual disfunction.

          My withdrawals included brain shivers, lightheadedness, dizziness andI was very tired.

          My doctor was very helpful and supportive when I suggested I wanted to try without it and he worked out a plan to ‘wean’ me off them.

          Hopw this helps!

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        • Lulu

          My experience was that going off it had the same side-effects as going on it. For me that included terrible sinusitis, which wasn’t on the list of side-effects in the package insert.

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  39. LellaK

    Ugh, the shudders. They suck. I get them if i miss a dose – and they truly feel like poo.
    Glad you feel ready to go off them, i wish you a very quick ‘back to normal body’ (i.e. no sweating :) )

    On another note, can we get an updated hair photo of you? :)

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  40. Anon This Time

    Meshel, thanks for sharing this, you are braver than me. I’m pretty sure that ‘x’ is the same anti-d I have been taking for about 5 years. I only get the brain shivers when I try to wean myself off, which I’ve tried to do unsuccessfully on several occasions. To me they feel like little electric shocks in my brain. I can’t get past the withdrawal.

    I wanted to wish you all the best of luck, and fingers crossed you can stay off them. But if you have to go back on, that’s OK too.

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    • Lulu

      My experience was that going off it had the same side-effects as going on it. For me that included terrible sinusitis, which wasn’t on the list of side-effects in the package insert.

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      • Lulu

        Whoops, replied to the wrong comment.

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  41. been there too

    I too came off an x which took a long time. I managed several months without but found I really needed something so I am on a new one, very low dose.

    But I completely understand what you are going through, because now I feel I have made an educated decision not a crisis driven one.

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  42. anon

    <3 Meshel
    I really want to come off all of my meds, I know I am addicted to them all and without them I cannot really function. I am waiting for the day that I feel OK and able to stop them all completely. I have a feeling things will get better from there.
    I hope you feel better without "x".

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  43. Yaz

    Great to hear! Although I hate hate hate Dr. Google!! Type in your symptoms and you’re dying!
    It’s so powerful to take responsibility for your own feelings and after 7 years of taking anti depressants & anti psychotics, I have now cut my dose down to 1/4 of what it originally was! I’m only 23, and I feel like I can tackle the world and whatever it throws at me 100 times better than during those years!

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  44. Jecoro

    Wow Meshel….just wow. I think I would have lost my shit yesterday several times if I were having a day like that! You should be proud of yourself!
    But…please slow down for your healths sake, enjoy your babies (ha ha! I have twins too and I reckon you often enjoy the time away from your kids more than the time you spend with them! But I will clarify this point for all those who will shout me down….Only because it makes you appreciate the time you spend with them more).
    All the best for weaning yourself of the antidepressants, but if you need them, there is no shame, they are for a genuine health problem.

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  45. Thanks

    Hi, thanks so much for sharing your story. All the best with the path ahead!

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  46. Sophie

    I had the same problems going on my anti-d, occasionally while on them and let me tell you… if I forgot to take them, I’d know about it within a couple of hours!

    It sucks, it really does.

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