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Cosmetic injectables used to be just for movie stars, but now they have gone decidedly mainstream. Considering a little jab? Read this list first.

1. It makes you look older

Botox and fillers give you a recognisable look: smooth forehead ala Kylie and Nic; trout pout ala Meg Ryan and Courtney Love. All these women are well past their fortieth birthdays. If you look like them and you’re only 32, people will peg you as a person much older.

2. It’s not fair to other women

I have a colleague who confided in me that she’s had work done, but denies it to everyone else. When a mutual friend expressed amazement that she hasn’t any smile lines around her eyes, she smiled serenely and thanked her good genes, making my friend feel like crap. Not fair.

3. It costs a lot of money

Thousands of dollars a year to maintain it! Increasing every year as you get older! Think about what else you could do with that money. Go to Scotland every year for Hogmanay. Do a part-time university course in fifteenth-century manuscript history. Hire a personal trainer. No, hire a native French speaker to teach you French immersion style. In Paris.

4. It gives that money to people who don’t deserve it

The companies and practitioners who sell you your injectibles want you to hate your smile lines. If you hate them, you’ll part with your money. So they manufacture self-hatred, through using horrid phrases like “crows feet” and “marionette lines”. In a relationship, if somebody undermined your self esteem to get your money, we’d call that abuse.

5. It makes your face look weird

Injectibles don’t make you look younger, they make you look smoother and puffier (a kind of pseudo-youth). A little too much or a little in the wrong place, and you’ll be too smooth or too puffy and it will look weird. Even celebrities occasionally have dodgy work done, and they have heaps of money and the best practitioers available: do you really think you can avoid it?

6. It makes you undersell yourself

You are more than your appearance. If you really think all you have to offer the world is a smooth face, then you are mistaken. Kindness, intelligence, warmth, humour, wisdom, patience, forgiveness, and so on and so on. Nobody’s value is limited to a smooth forehead.

7. It’s all going to go eventually

Botox can’t stop you getting old. Eventually, it will happen and no injectible on earth will help. By then, you’ll be struggling against a  life-long panicky conviction that wrinkles must be eradicated. This is not what they call ageing gracefully.

8. Nobody can botox your arse

No matter how smooth your face remains, your body will eventually reveal the truth about your age. Skin grows softer and sits differently. There isn’t a shot for that, so you’re going to be limited to turtle-necks and maxi-skirts (which isn’t much fun in an Australian summer), or you going to have to present the world with collar and cuffs that don’t match.

9. It’s the thin edge of a wedge

Botox and fillers are gateway drugs. You think it’s only a little bit of tinkering, but when it’s no longer enough, suddenly surgical eyelifts and neck tightening start to sound viable.

10. There are plenty of people who are beautiful without it

It’s hard to find celebs who haven’t had work done, but go google pics of Emma Thompson, Kristin Scott Thomas, Cate Blanchett, Paulina Porozkova, or Isabella Rosselini. Granted, they were all beautiful women to start with, but just go look at them and see what a real ageing face looks like. It’s not all bad, people.

And one extra reason to ignore me…

Because you’re you and it’s your business. If you can read all of this and still think, “It’s what I want”, then go right ahead. Just don’t come crying to me when you can’t order a meal in a Parisian restaurant without a phrasebook. Or without moving your eyebrows.

Check out our gallery of celebrities who admit to or deny Botox..

Nicole Kidman admits to dabbling with Botox. 'I didn't like how my face looked afterwards,' she says. 'Now I don't use it anymore – I can move my forehead again!'

Kim Wilkins has published over 20 novels. She has a PhD and teaches writing and literature at University of Queensland. You can read more about her here.

What’s your opinion on Botox? Have you done it? Would you?

(Next week we will be posting a story about someone who has had botox – and what she thought about it – stay tuned)

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    MeganT

    Save the Botox for those who actually NEED it – people with muscle control illnesses and diseases like MS and Cerebral Palsy.

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    wollywally

    Live and let live :) LTA ooxx

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    Girlfriday67

    Botox: Best thing since sliced bread. The best value anti-aging beauty product on the market. And really Nicole? No more “dabbling”? seriously?? And those boobs are not hers either.

    I’ll keep having my botox every 3 months, even when I have to be wheeled in.

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    Laureate

    Think about the world you are creating for your children, nieces, nephews – do you want them doing this to their faces ?? Also, from reading comments from botox users, I’m glad I’m not one of them – they seem a little nasty.

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      Anon

      Wow, I actually thought the anti-botox people seem nasty. They are the people who are judging other women for their personal choices. The article implies all women with Botox look old, weird, make others feel like crap and generally have no self-esteem, no wonder they are offended. That to me seems like a nasty generalisation. When I read through the comments below all the botox users said it is a personal choice, however did not attack those who choose not to – which you clearly did above stating they seem “nasty”.

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    Lolly

    I think Botox sits on the shelf alongside makeup, hair colouring, fake tan, flattering clothes, good diet and exercise. If it makes you feel/look better, use it!

    I am 34 weeks pregnant with my 3rd child, and intend to breastfeed, so it’s been awhile since my last Botox injection. The 2 frown lines between my eyebrows are looking pretty nasty. I intend to feed bub for about a year, then I will happily skip along to my practitioner and get my jabs.

    As this will be my last bub, I also have full intentions of getting a breast reduction/lift next year. I am currently size 12 GG, and the weight and droop of my bust is truly frustrating. I figure I am still a youngish Mum, and I have years of beach trips/swimming times ahead with my kids, and I want to feel and look confident in a swim suit again. I may even consider a tummytuck too.

    I would never begrudge what pregnancy does to a woman’s body (it’s the greatest privilege to bring happy, healthy children into this world), but I will never feel guilty about having these procedures done by a highly qualified doctor. My kids and husband deserve a mother/wife who is happy, confident and proud of herself, inall aspects of her life.

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    Bondihoney

    Why are u berating women for trying to look their best. A little bit of Botox

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    Guest

    I’ve had all sorts of stuff done – laser, fillers, Botox. The key is to go to a dermatologist or proper clinic with registered nurses and experienced injectors (NOT a beautician). If they’re good they’ll ‘underservice’ you – i.e. make you look natural and great for your age (rather than an unrealistic 10 years younger) and talk you out of foolish decisions. Remember too that this stuff is mostly reversible or impermanent – if it doesn’t look right you can reverse it (fillers) or it will wear off (Botox). I agree it’s an injustice women feel obliged to spend copious amounts of money on upkeep but we live in a society where beauty is power. Terrible to admit but unfortunately true. I would love to not worry about how I age but sadly I would be persona non gratis at home and work! Like the feeling you get when you have a fabulous hair cut, I also get a kick out of subtle improvements to my face or body – e.g. freckles gone, lips a tince plumper and frown lines lessened a little!

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    Rochelle

    I am anti-botox. My main problem is that I think it is mostly borne out of fear. Fear that a woman is getting ‘old’ and won’t be considered attractive anymore. I can’t see how it’s empowering in any way. I’m definitely not against cosmetics altogether – I LOVE make-up and get a lot of fun out of a sparkly eyeshadow or a turquoise eyeliner, but to me, that’s like dressing up. And part of the fun of going out is getting ready. I can’t imagine it’s much fun going to a doctor’s office to have a needle stuck in your face.

    I mean no disrespect to anyone who has botox, but I will admit that it genuinely baffles me.

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    Saz

    I was going to talk about my job working for someone who does botox, my knowledge of the actual monetary cost (far less than many people make it out to be), and my experiences with the patients. But I can’t be bothered.

    All I will say is this: I am against botox and cosmetic surgery as much as an intelligent girl of my young age can be, but this article was trash. Poorly written, poorly researched, excessively judgemental.

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    Mosquitonet

    I thought this was a great article. Lighten up people!

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    Anon

    I have had botox several times but for a medical condition into my pudendal nerve for severe pain it gives 100 percent results as I’m in no pain love it

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    Anonymous

    Please, most of these things you could say about colouring your hair, wearing nice clothes, buying and wearing expensive skincare and make up etc etc.

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    Olivia

    I feel a little depressed reading all the comments on here. While the article was not very well written I had no idea so many people thought Botox was such a great thing. Seems to be a touchy issue for some people.

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    Anonymous

    Geez, Botox gets a bad rap doesn’t it.
    Botox, or botulinum toxin, has been used safely and effectively in medicine for years for the treatment of voice disorders, migraine, eye movement disorders and in cerebral palsy, just to name a few areas. I was just speaking to someone the other day who told me her mother had finally regained the power of speech, thanks to some botox injections in her vocal cords, after years of other treatments for her acquired condition which hadn’t worked.
    It can change lives.
    http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/lookin-good-battling-cerebral-palsy-with-botox-20110602-1fiua.html
    Before writing anymore on the topic of botox, please, a bit of research and a less cavalier dismissal of this pharmaceutical which has made all the difference to many.

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      catgirl

      I think that you have missed the point of the article. The whole article was about having botox for pure superficial cosmetic reasons.

      If the article had have been about treatments for cerebral palsy, botox would have been presented in a different light as it would have been used for a medical purpose.

      You can’t compare the two scenarios, and it’s unfair of you to expect a “beauty” column to do so.

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      rainbow

      i don’t think anyone is denying the medical marvel that botox can be. but using it to regain speech or in kids with CP is slightly different i think.

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      Mia

      Anon – Kim was not writing about the medical use of Botox. This post was about its cosmetic use. So different.

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    Anonymous

    I’m 32. I’m sure I look older than I am (I have amazing smile lines around my eyes!) and sometimes struggle to be okay with this. Deep down, I know I’ll never have botox (in as much as we’re sure about these ‘never’ things) and want and aim to be proud about this. So I felt a bit uplifted when I read this article, but a bit deflated after reading some of the comments. Deflated because I realise that some of the points in the article probably are a bit unfair, and deflated because not having everyone support the article makes me feel a bit ‘unsupported’ in my efforts to ‘age’ gracefully. I think I must be overtired and miserable today – who the hell talks about ageing gracefully at 32?! Far out people! We just need to be supportive of each other and appreciate diversity in beauty (including both ‘natural’ and ‘enhanced’) all round. We also need to be strong in our convictions and not feel compromised by others (‘natural’ or ‘enhanced’) and the world will be a f****** beautiful place!

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    Cathy Crawley

    Ever noticed something that women with movement free foreheads and eyes have that most of us don’t? Nasty wrinkled up nose lines. Truly, go check out one of your friends. I bet she has nose wrinkles because it’s the only part of the face that moves when they laugh besides the mouth. Lynette from Desperate Housewives is a great example ;)

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      a nonny mouse

      That is just the sort of snarky and ill-informed comment non-users make to imply that women who do use the stuff are f*cked in the head. Its like my colleague who said (looking directly at me – a 10 year botox veteran) all women who use botox have that big vein in their forehead. No I don’t have a vein and my nose doesn’t crinkle up in a ‘nasty’ fashion.

      To have a permanently movement fee forehead to the point where your nose has to crinkle to compensate for the lack of movement elsewhere you would have to be having large amounts of the stuff every 4 months or so in every muscle around your eyes and in your forehead. Its about quantity, frequency of use and placement and unless you’ve had it a couple of times you can’t appreciate what I’m saying. The stuff works great, gives fantastic benefits AND is undetectable if you do it sensibly.

      I’m not advocating everyone use it, to each their own. Just don’t make me feel bad for my choice.

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    a nonny mouse

    You’ve proved my theory that the reason why many women have a problem with women who use botox is because those women who decide to take advantage of what is available to enhance their looks ‘makes you feel bad about yourself’. To that I say, that’s your issue and its a level playing field out there, so if you think looking good is a competitive sport, then knock yourself out.
    I’m also a little tired of hearing women who have never used the stuff list its disbenefits as if they have a clue. The examples to which you refer are those instances of misuse or overuse. I’ve been using it judiciously for 10 years now and no I don’t look older than my years, waxen, frozen, puffy or weird.
    I wonder if you would think it was acceptable to list 10 reasons not to get tattooed or pierced?

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    maisy

    On an editing note, I think you mean ‘à la’ rather than the nonsensical ‘ala’ that appears in the article, no?

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    Natasha

    I love how Kylie Minogue puts her 43 year old face down to using ponds cold cream. Girls forget the expensive botox injections, apparently The Cold Cream does the job. Ha.!

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    merindakennedy

    God this article is so preachy & condescending. Yuck.

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      Elle

      Agree. I keep thinking “live and let live” and “never say never”.

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    Pattipiano

    OMG Has anyone noticed Olivia Newton John recently? We share the same birthdate 26.9.1948. She used to look so lovely….ageing gracefully etc etc.
    She now has eyes, cheekbones and LIPS that rival those nasty “after” photos when something goes wrong. I am really disappointed that Olivia felt the need to do this to herself. She is no longer a natural attractive 63 year old. Rather a plastic doll…….and definitely NOT attractive :-(

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      JohnJames

      My partner R went to High School with ONJ…I think R looks better…and she’s had no work done…but I am biased…

      :)

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      jennome

      Couldn’t agree more, about Olivia. And Marina Prior has gone the same way. Almost unrecognisable. And Sigrid Thornton too I’m thinking. Why do they mess with perfectly good lips? Just crazy.

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        Jimmy's Girl

        And Sharon Stone….. so far gone as to be unrecognisable without a photo caption!

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      Mosquitonet

      Totally agree. What a beautiful woman ONJ is naturally, why ruin her face like that??? And everyone knows roughly how old she is, why pretend otherwise?

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      Amanda

      OMG you are so right. I saw a photo of her the other day and she looked positively Wildensteinish. I think she’s gone to the same plastic surgeon as her daughter Chloe. Ewww. It looks a lot more than Botox though. Such a shame, she looks nothing like she did before.

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      glamourpuss

      ONJ = lots of filler (puffy) and laser resurfacing (shiny)
      I am sure she had some botox too but that is not the cause of her current weird look

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    HF

    “It makes you look older”

    I’ve been saying this for YEARS. Thank goodness someone else thinks so too.

    Go ahead and use it- it doesn’t bother me- but keep this in mind.

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    reader

    What is going on at MM this week.
    Is this judgement week and I don’t know?
    Women we admire
    Sex workers
    and now this piece of crap.
    Might be time for me to move on to another website that is committed to quality writing and genuinely interested in empowering women.

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    Anonymous

    I thought Mamamia was about empowering women, but ramming us with opinions that make women feel like crap.

    If a woman wants to dye her hair, pluck her eyebrows, get a Brazilian wax, or even it Botox – more POWER to her. If you don’t like or believe Botox / filers, don’t get them.

    Australian women are strong, independent women, so let us make our own decisions, without these one sided articles that try and make us feel like crap.

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      Mia

      Hey Anonymous,
      At MM we aim to publish different viewpoints. Some people are very pro-Botox and cosmetic surgery. Others are against it.
      And I disagree that it’s simply a matter of each-to-her-own. Like eating chicken or fish. Cosmetic surgery and the issues around it have bigger picture issues attached to them – ones of feminism, sexism, the way women are portrayed, aging……
      As Caitlin Moran says, if you’re wondering if something is fine, ask yourself “Are the men doing it too?”
      No. Except for a teeny tiny few. They are not paralysing their facial muscles. So the fact that women are? Significant. And worthy of debate.

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        Addy

        I don’t disparage MM for having this article at all – if nothing else, it’s opened up a dialogue.
        I love Caitlin Moran, but that particular comment could easily apply to wearing make up, shaving legs etc.
        I don’t think botox or injectables are the problem; I think it’s the long held “silver fox” v “old bag” sort of rhetoric. At the risk of oversimplifying: hate the game, not the player. I realise that all the middle+ age super babes in Hollywood who get cosmetic injection help (while claiming “yoga! raw vegan! ____ face cream!”) don’t help the situation, I don’t think they are solely to blame. I think if I was a youngish Hollywood babe hitting middle age, I would be worried that I would lose jobs if I aged too drastically too quickly (unless I was one of those uber-talented superstars who had guaranteed longevity).
        I’m going to refrain from going into an OT diatribe about ageism, women and society, but I will say that I think the age-related cosmetic surgery business is probably, to a certain extent, symptomatic of some of the shortcomings of the typical socio-culturally constructed views of women and ageing.
        So while I don’t really support critiquing women’s choices re: cosmetic procedures, I DO think the socio-cultural norms that influence these decisions are DEFINITELY something we should be thinking & talking about (e.g. 35 yo guy dates 29 yo woman: “relationship”; 35 yo woman dates 29 guy: “cougar!” etc.)

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    BatGirl

    1. It is a toxin and no one knows the long term effects of injecting it into your face. Article over.

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      jennafelicity

      It’s been used therapeutically since the late 1800s to help with uncontrollable spasms (from the face to the eye muscles to the vocal cords) and crossed eyes.

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        BatGirl

        Fair enough, but what is the effect of injecting it say on a monthly basis for decades?

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          glamourpuss

          1. Not monthly – it lasts for at least 3-4 months (for me it lasts 6)
          2. I have been having it twice a year for 14 years. I actually have resolved lines that I had across my forehead from when I was a child and don’t even have to have them treated any more

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    kails

    Each to their own – but you know what – when I get mine done, i feel more confident and much happier with my overall appearance – maybe that makes me shallow or suffering from low self-esteem – but I work full-time and have 2 young children and sleep is a luxury not a necessity so you know what? I’m gonna get it done and feel good about it…….We women feel guilty about pretty much everything in our lives so lets just add vanity and botox to the list ha ha xx

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      merindakennedy

      Good on you, don’t let this article make you think otherwise. The whole article is incredibly condesending and disappointing to read on a site like mamamia.

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      Lolly

      Great point. I think Botox sits on the shelf alongside makeup, hair colouring, fake tan, flattering clothes, good diet and exercise. If it makes you feel/look better, use it!

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    Alexandra

    This whole piece is a joke. I would be embarrassed to have my name associated with it.

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    justvisiting

    What a spectacularly irritating article. If your friend feels bad that other people her age look better (with help or not), she really needs to look at herself and stop blaming others for making her feel bad.

    I long for the day when this kind of petty, sanctimonious judgement no longer exists …

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      Susan

      I concur. It’s a bit of a stinker of an article!

      Especially point number 2: EXASPERATING!!! If someone else looks good that does not meant that you look bad.

      Very flawed logic….

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      Olivia

      While I agree that we should not use other women looking bad or good as a measure to feel good or bad about ourselves, I do agree with the writer that the women who lie about having cosmetic type procedures done do a disservice to all women. Mostly because it creates a false sense of what looks ‘normal’ as we age. So instead we have lots of people doing it secretly, pretending that it’s all natural when it’s not. I wish we could all be a bit more honest about these things. People seem so obsessed with keeping up this perfect facade ‘oh yes it’s just good genes’ instead of being honest and just saying ‘yeah I had a few lines around my eyes so I got Botox, it seems to have worked well’. I have more a problem with the lying about it than the actual Botox.

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    Lu

    I dont have a problem with people using it if it makes them happy. I’m not that vain, I’m happy with the way I am and am happy to grow old gracefully. What does irritate me is the people who deny it. I dont understand what they aim to achieve by that when its extremely obvious to everyone that something has been done and they do look very different. Do they think we are stupid, blind, gullible?

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      Anon

      Perhaps they don’t think you are stupid, blind or gullible, maybe they just don’t think it’s anyone’s business but their own. Why should anyone have to divulge what they consider personal because of others speculation?

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      Addy

      There’s a lot of stigma surrounding cosmetic procedures (e.g. a lot of the comments on here), so maybe some people fear the judgment.

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    LKW

    Haven’t tried it yet but have been considering it for a while now. I’m 35 this year and with small children & lack of sleep – I’m noticing my skin aging & looking “tired”.
    Cant wait to see the results when I finally bite the bullet!!

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      Alexandra

      Don’t do it! Everyone will be able to tell because your face will look weird and you will make other women feel bad!!! Plus it will hinder your job prospects because employers will think you’re underselling yourself and value a smooth face over everything else. Worst of all though, you will be directly putting money into the pocket of a person who preys on women’s insecurites.

      Also, refer to point 9. Before you know it you’ve overdrawn on your mortgage to get a boob job and butt lift (because remember, you can’t botox your arse so need the full le) and spent all your kid’s birthday present money on a nose BECAUSE BOTOX IS A GATEWAY DRUG!!! You may as well take up a heroin addition, at least you’d be ageing gracefully.

      Sorry for the sarcasm, this article really really rubbed me the wrong way.

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      another tired mum

      try something like Olay Regenerist first

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        rachel

        I’m having a bit of a giggle as I trawl through the bi-yearly botox MM debate – always gets a rise from both teams, or should I say the three teams, when the dinner table has been too quiet for a while. Had it, love it, and I can assure you, creams much better than Olay anything will not give you the same, or anything near it, results. If you want to try something that does relax wrinkles a bit (nothing like Botox though) try Intraceuticals Atoxelene – and if you use Botox, this product extends the time between treatments SIGNIFICANTLY.

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    Katherine

    Your face your choice.

    I really dislike the way the tabloids (and increasingly the rest of the media) are obsessed with this stuff. It’s just another way of body snarking women – you’re bad if you have work done and it looks bad, you’re bad if you have work done and it looks good but you keep it a secret, you’re bad if you maybe had work done but aren’t saying either way, and you’re bad if you age visibly. Women cannot win.

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    Emma

    “It’s not fair to other women”. Give me a bucket.

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    JohnJames

    I thought “5. It makes your face look weird” should have been #1…makes the other 9 points redundant…

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    Nic

    Agree with comment below about Courtney Cox. She was a beautiful woman before she touched her face with botox etc. Yes, she is still beautiful but she also looks a bit weird and you can absolutely tell that she has had work done. Personally, I think she looked much better before she had anything done.

    I think Jennifer Ansiton is a great example for those of us wanting to reduce wrinkles. She clearly does something to lesson them, but whatever it is makes her look much more natural than a lot of other celebs. Now, if only she would let me know what she does, so I could do it! :)

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      Anh Nguyen

      It is so important and only natural for men and women to have or want to have a healthy dose of self confidence and vanity. If having botox and fillers or even plastic surgery gives one the results they are after (be it youthfulness, desired appearance or a self-esteem boost for example, then who are we to pass judgement!

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        Anon

        Of course you would say that, you’re a plastic surgeon.

        I think self confidence is an amazing thing, but I believe it comes from within yourself not in a vial.

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          Anh Nguyen

          Of course self confidence does not come in a vial but helping people look good and feel better about how they look can have positive outcomes.

          There are so many women and men who are transformed inside and out by procedures that enhance their appearance! It is not all about vanity and who are we to judge if someone wants to look and feel better.

          Having injectables to reduce lines or scars that make one self conscious or having a tummy tuck or breast reduction so you can wear your clothes confidently and stand up proud or having breast implants because you want extra cleavage or having braces to straighten out crooked teeth all have risks and benefits.

          It’s up to the individual to choose what is right or not appropriate for them and be well- informed and have realistic expectations.

          But we should respect individuals to choose – not pass judgement.

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    Anonymous

    how about “injecting toxins into your body causes no harm” is perhaps going to be the smoking is good for you myth of the late 21st century… this is not a fact just my opinion… Leave botox for those it was invented for, the people with spasticity type issues.

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    sarcasticsidekick

    Silly me, I thought this would actually give some facts about Botox, not unfounded and overused rhetoric.

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    PixiMum

    Ummm… Jenny McCarthy who is risking the lives of millions of children by waging a global anti-immunisation campaign is OK about having Botulism injected into her body. Every two weeks apparently.

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      Kris2040

      TOXINS ARE EBIL*!!!!!!!!!

      *Unless they’re making my face look like plastic.

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    Steph

    I don’t care that celebs/ models have botox but when they then try to sell you their latest anti ageing cream that’s wrong!!

    Well before she came out publicly to say she has been using botox for years, Cindy Crawford was selling some anti ageing stuff that she had ‘developed’ with her dermatologist saying that that’s why she was looking so youthful.

    FALSE ADVERTISING!!!

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      veruca salt

      Touche! Such hypocrisy.

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    Anonymous

    Ok, going anon for this one.

    I find this post incredibly judgement and superficial in its reasoning. We are all grown ups, and should make decisions based on our own research, not this kind of generalist / comment stuff. But a lot of other people here have said it better than me.

    Having said that, I am still no to Botox, having used it myself. And here is why:

    1. There are stacks of people on line who have experienced negative effects. These reports are not hard to find and common in their themes. This is not to say that everyone will have a bad result, but you won’t know unitl you do, and from my experience and these reports, the effects (positive and negative) are NOT all temporary, despite what your injector will tell you. People selling this stuff will deny deny deny, but just check out some of these posts. Negative effects are REAL guys, not for everyone but for some.

    http://www.realself.com/review/united-kingdom-read-before-botox-pstosis-drooping-eyes-cheeks-mouth-side-effects

    http://www.realself.com/review/Botox-and-antibiotics#comment-76887

    http://www.realself.com/review/think-long-and-hard-before-getting-botox-it-ruined-face#comment-76886

    2. For me, it caused muscle weakness around my eyes (I had crows feet done), which it turn means fluid around your eyes struggles to drain away, hence puffy eye syndrome.

    3. Again for me, I believe it caused permanent muscle weakness (which is not surprising, as it is meant to cause muscle paralysis and with repeated use it is entirely logical that muscles get weaker) which can lead to assymetry in your face, right down to your smile if you have it in your crows feet.

    4. My final lot gave me chipmunk cheeks, injected too much or it moved around, who knows. Was HORRID.

    5. The good effects go quickly and the bad ones linger around.

    LASTLY, it is contra indicated if you are on antibiotics. This is really important and injectors never ask. You need to inform yourself on this, and on the potential downfalls too.

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      Anon

      A major issue with Botox is who’s administering it. Local nail salon now offers Botox services, as does Myer. This is a potent medication and if you treat it as a casual fixer-upper that can be administered by anybody, you are likely to end up with results from one end of the spectrum to another.

      If you must get Botox, at least make sure you’re getting it from a dermatologist or someone medically trained enough to know what happens when you stick a needle into the muscles that hold your face together.

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        Same anon as above

        Well I had mine from a plastic surgeon, well respected, and it didn’t stop the problems. Untrained injectors might be worse still, but there are problems with even trained injectors. It’s a function of the Product itself.

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    neri

    My Grandmother used to say “you can always tell the age of a woman by her neck and her elbows”.

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      maggie

      My mum tells me this!

      It’s so true! Even with anti-aging cream…..people will use it on their face daily for years but there neck they always forget and it looks totally different.

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        justvisiting

        And don’t forget your décolletage and hands!

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          xanthe

          It doesn’t matter what type of moisturiser you put on, just as long as it’s something – even cooking oil will do at a pinch.
          And the French have a saying for it (of course): The face ends where the bust begins…

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      Lu

      And just above her knees!

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      lauren91

      Hands don’t lie either! You can smoothe your face all you want, but it’s pretty hard to de-wrinkle hands!

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    bee

    Everything in moderation people!

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    Stacey

    Aaaaand here we go again… As a botox user can I just say -
    1. I don’t look older or have a ‘tell tale’ smooth forehead, I’m just don’t have a permanent frown
    2. The only person who can make you feel like crap is you. If botox was so obvious why would your friend feel bad about someone not having smile lines – surely she could TELL?
    3. It doesn’t cost thousands of dollars a year to have botox – but even if it did, it’s my money, not yours, so why do you care?
    4. Comparing having botox to being in an abusive relationship is a little bit of a stretch no?
    5. There’s nothing weird or puffy about my forehead– but thank you for your sweeping generalisation.
    6. I think I am kind, intelligent, warm, humorous, wise and forgiving (I’ll leave out patient because it’s not true) and I happen to have botox. No underselling myself going on here.
    7. Aging disgracefully sounds like more fun to me
    8. My arse has the smoothest skin on my body. No need for botox there!
    9. Yes, just like every person who has ever tried marijuana turns into a heroin addict, every one who has botox is going to end up like the Bride of Wilderstein
    10. Didn’t your Mum ever tell you that beauty comes from inside?
    Lastly, I can order a meal in a Parisian restaurant without a phrasebook and move my eyebrows at the same time, even with my botoxed forehead – who would have thunk it?

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      glamourpuss

      Hallelujah sister – another voice of reason!
      And from someone who actually has some first hand experience too!!

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        Anonymous

        Wonderful reply! I thought the article was hateful and judgmental. If you don’t like Botox don’t get it and keep your opinions about other women’s bodies/faces to yourself. I get it, I love it and it does not cost thousands!

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      missamoo

      Thank you said it so well that i will only add. I get botox in my forehead and glabella (between my eyebrows) because i have ALWAYS had really deep lines there in fact i have had them since i was in my late teens it’s genetic. I get it from my nonno the flip side is i have my mothers skin and i have no need for it lower than my eyebrows and that is how i plan to keep it. The funny thing is when you you admit to it people often say “Oh but you don’t need botox” and that is true below my eyebrows plus the reason i don’t need botox is because i get botox just enough to smooth but not so much that i can’t move and this is the key i believe……..wait for it………..moderation!!!

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        MJ

        I love the “but you don’t need botox” comments…exactly the reason I don’t “need” it is because I have just enough to look natural and smooth!

        The haters don’t seem to understand this point!

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      anon

      well said and I completely agree with you. my bug here isnt just the generalisation of such a ridiculously sweeping argument against botox its the fact that the writer of this blog from what I can gather has never even had it done herself. how on earth can she be informed enough to be so inanely against something she clearly knows nothing about (and like you I get botox and my eyebrows are moving as I write this!!!)

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      justvisiting

      Love your list Stacey. I am also a fan of ageing disgracefully!

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      Anonymous

      Absolutely agree with you stacy, I get Botox done in a permanent frown line I have had in between my eyebrows since I was 28 yrs, its hereditary from my dad. I am now 35.

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      anononymous

      Totally agree !. I have it done…but I am older and it is more to keep my employment prospects going than the personal benefits. I don’t want my face to inform other people’s perceptions about my ability to perform my job ( am over 50 and a lawyer, and not ready to be replaced by the younger version)
      I have no issue with people using it….it is your money and if that is how you choose to spend what you earn, then that is youir right !!

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      Yeah!

      I agree.

      I’ve had a bit of Botox and I think it’s like anything – if you want to keep it looking natural and not overdone, you just have to watch it.

      And while it’s pricy, it’s not THAT pricy. And when I fork out for it, yes, it’s worth it – like getting my hair done. It simply makes me look better – no two ways about it.

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      smorg

      if beauty comes from inside (10 on your list) why do us women feel the constant need to be proving the exact opposite?

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        Stacey

        Fair point smorg.

        My list was a direct counter to the list of 10 points in the article. This article made me furious because it seems it is acceptable to write a list of 10 reasons people who use botox are stupid. This would never be acceptable if it was 10 reasons not to bottle feed / diet / exercise / dye your hair etc.

        I’m just over the judgement on every level.

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    Anon

    I have Botox twice a year and nobody knows except my partner. My mother and 3 sisters whom I am very close to have never mentioned that I look different. I do it because I like the way it makes me look, not because I am trying to make someone else feel bad about themself. Perhaps people that are saying it looks fake or weird have never actually noticed the people that have had a small amount done by a highly trained professional. I say each to their own and don’t knock it until you try it!

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    glamourpuss

    This is a shameful article to appear on MM. So lacking in evidence. I could attack the points one by one but don’t have the time. There is plenty of bad botox out there and it isn’t a good trend that so much botox is now administered by “beauty therapists” who don’t have the level of understanding about muscle anatomy and how much is enough.
    Many of the claims in this article confuse the use of botox with fillers (botox doesn’t make you “puffy”)
    I have been having botox twice a year for the past 14 years – yes that long. I don’t spend a lot of money on expensive makeup or skin care but it is money well spent.

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      Noelle

      I seriously considered going through this point-by-point dismissing each ‘reason’. I’ve never had botox, but if and when I decide to, I don’t want anyone making me feel terrible about it.

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      Stacey

      I couldn’t help myself, I had to counter each point!

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        Sara

        Agree!! It’s fillers that give you that shiny, puffy look not Botox. Such a generalization. People are very fearful and judgemental of what they don’t know about. Try it you must just enjoy looking a little more rested, fresher – who wouldn’t?

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          Anonymous

          Yeah, I think the article means fillers too. She says it near the start. The headline might be misleading.

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        MJ

        And I’m so glad you did Stacey – I wanted to but don’t have the time to this morning!

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    Lucy

    Photo 3 is Courtney Cox not Cindy Crawford!! :D x

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      ashamasha

      ???? no. 3 is David Hasselhoff! there’s no photo of courtney cox at all.

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        Natalia

        Sorry for the confusion ashamasha, it should be fixed now!

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          ashamasha

          oh look, magic! far less confusing now :P

          thanks Nat :)

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    Jo

    I bet many of the critics here are not single so have no idea how effing hard it is being a 40 something single woman in a youth & beauty obsessed world. It is NOT fun. Men do not find my naturally wrinkly / creased skin appealing and I’ve been told I look years older than I am. Guess what? I did something about it (fillers & laser) and it has changed my life completely in that I am not considered an old bag now. First appearances count and if you have a haggard physical appearance you will be overlooked in the dating game. I want to find love, what is wrong with me doing all I can to increase chances of success?

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      anonymous

      Go Girl!

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      missamoo

      Woo hoo for you baby!!!. Plus the money i save on expensive wrinkle creams that don’t work is a bonus too!!

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      Yeah!

      Aww, I love your raw honesty.

      And you are absolutely right – it’s tough out there in the dating world (I’m 34 and I just commented on the singles article). First impressions count and you want to look your best. Good on you and I hope you meet someone wonderful, as you seem like a wonderful person.

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    Sophie

    If the ladies want to go and get botox then I think it’s ok. Let them do it without persecution from the sisterhood.

    Me myself? I’m not interested (yet anyway and I’m 37 this year). I’m sure my friends are sick of hearing me bang on about this but I’ll say it anyway. I just think women who age gracefully with lovely, soft, warm lines on their faces look wonderful! I remember my grandmother’s face at age 70 and she was one of the most beautiful women I’ve known. A long life well lived with a face full of smile (and every other emotion) lines.

    My theory is that in time, people will start to covet the faces untouched by chemicals.

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    Anonymous

    I’d have botox. I have bad, very un-elastic skin, and a habit of constantly furrowing my brow, which I can see from my mum will lead to me looking angry all the time, even when smiling. For me it’s not about looking young, but looking like I feel.

    I know people who’ve had it done. They look great. Meg Ryan and other celebs don’t look funny because of botox, they look funny because of fillers. Totally different thing.

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      Anon

      I know someone who had it to erase the permanent angry look off her face. Same issue as you except she had young children and didn’t want them to think she was angry all the time. Hers was really bad. The lines are still there but the crease is gone.

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    Katherine in London

    My mum got botox and it looks subtle but beautiful. It gave her lots of confidence and motivated her to renovate her wardrobe and get a new hairstyle.

    I’m all for it and plan to get it when I need to. I’d rather pay $600 for botox that actually DOES SOMETHING, than $600 on wrinkle creams that do nothing.

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      missamoo

      Here here!!

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      poppy

      I couldn’t agree more. I have had botox but didn’t much like the feel of it. Just before Christmas I was surveying my makeup drawer and thought of all the money I had spent on antiaging creams/serums, derma roller etc and said stuff it. I had fillers put in this time, between the eyes and round the mouth and the difference (to me) is amazing. No one else has noticed until I’ve told them but then they can see a difference. I am now saving for a fat transfer which is permanent.

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    Love number 6 and number 8!! Botox makes a face look too fake for my liking. As for Nicole, I reckon she still uses it… Waaay too much work done since BMX Bandit!