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Nat. Being confused.

 

 

 

 

by NATALIA HAWK

Help me out here. Because I am really bloody confused about what I am supposed to be eating.

Imagine if an alien landed on my doorstep tomorrow morning and asked me how to eat healthily on Planet Earth. I would have no idea what to tell that poor alien.

You see, all the old – simple – rules about food are gone. Done. Dusted. The food pyramid has been thrown out in the rubbish along with the stale milk and five-day-old Thai takeaway. It’s been replaced with myriad ideas about various kinds of food, many of which seem to contradict each other, and none of which can be agreed upon by everyone.

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Goodbye food pyramid. Was nice knowing you.

Apparently green vegetables are good for you but there’s no actual nutritional value in lettuce, so leave that out. Pasta used to be great and then became a giant no-go but now it’s okay as long as it’s the brown pasta, not the white stuff (and you can also have that new lean-pasta which is made of something very mysterious but is incidentally the only kind of processed food which is good for you). Sushi is fine but only on Tuesdays and if you stand on one leg chanting “SASHIMI. SASHIMI. SASHIMI” while eating it.

Are you exhausted? Yes. Me too. The above is probably all wrong by now anyway. In the last five minutes, someone has presumably invented a lettuce-pasta that is the healthiest thing you will ever eat, ever, and the eternal solution to all your problems. Thank you, lettuce-pasta.

Remember diets? Diets used to be simple. They were ridiculous, but awesomely simple. Like the baby food diet, which Jennifer Aniston was supposedly a fan of. Guess what you eat on the baby food diet? Baby food. Uh-huh. Much like the cabbage soup diet, where all you eat is cabbage soup, or the raw food diet, where all you eat is – you guessed it! – raw food.

People don’t do diets anymore. They do LIFESTYLES.

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Sweet Poison: the fun sponge of the book world.

For example, there’s the sugar-free lifestyle, inspired by the book Sweet Poison by David Gillespie. According to Gillespie, sugar is poison and therefore you must cut it out altogether.

Remember when you were little and said you were hungry and your parents always said, “have a piece of fruit”? Sorry, but your parents were wrong. Fruit = sugar and therefore also poison. There are some fruits which are less evil than others which are grudgingly permitted, but generally? That thing that you thought was actually good for you is actually contributing to your untimely demise.

(Disclaimer: Much like Katie Holmes being seduced by Scientology, I was briefly converted to the sugar-free lifestyle. I walked around for awhile bragging about it before I realised that my obsession was making me totally miserable. Now I eat fruit salad whenever I like. Freedom = happiness.)

There is also the Paleo lifestyle, which is something to do with the dinosaur-era and how people were so much happier back then because they only ate seeds and giant slabs of mammoth. They didn’t have activated almonds or quinoa in those days but they still did okay without it. Apparently.

At home, it really doesn’t get any better for me. My mother subscribes to medical newsletters for fun (I know, I know) and seems to change the contents of our pantry daily, based on what the newsletters say. For one interesting week, life was all about Splenda. Food was simply not a possibility unless it was Splenda-fied. We had an entire shelf in the cupboard dedicated to The Wonders Of Splenda.

The week after? “Splenda is poison!” Mum yelled as she threw all telltale yellow boxes in the bin. Which was comforting, considering I’d already consumed quite a bit of it.

The same thing has since happened with organic food, bread, dark chocolate, jam… the list goes on. All the confusion means that I often find myself sitting on the couch, nibbling at coasters, because they’re the only thing that hasn’t been banned yet. Rough life, really.

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You know you want it.

When I look at the women around me, they are confused too. All of them. They all try to eat healthy but they’re all doing completely different things. One doesn’t touch carbs. Another one loves carbs but won’t even look at one past 6pm. One only eats out once a week. Another doesn’t eat anything but vegetables (in various forms, but still, ONLY vegetables).

And me?

Sometimes I have days where I eat far too much sugar and crash out at 5pm. Sometimes I have days where I eat salad and toast and 18 million types of vegetables and juice. Sometimes I have days where I indulge in a Max Brenner waffle. Sometimes I go out and consume six standard drinks in less than two hours. Sometimes I exercise for 12 hours straight.

I’m happy. I’m healthy. My body fat percentage is probably not up there in the marathon-runner stakes, but I don’t care because I genuinely think life is better when cupcakes are involved.

As we all roll into 2013, we’re all trying to make resolutions. Rules for our lives that will make us healthier, and therefore happier.

I’d love to make some resolutions. But I can’t decide on any, because I’m so confused about what I’m supposed to be eating. I want the damn food pyramid back.

What do you eat, and why? Are you as confused as I am, or am I just very unintelligent?

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204 Comments so far

  1. distracted

    This food confusion comes because there is a LOT of pseudo-science in the field of nutrition. 90% of the examples in the article are junk science (no offense intended, they simply aren’t true).

    Even when claims are based on good quality trials, it’s really difficult to make sweeping generalisations about the value of foods in health.

    Basically, if one person has written a book on a nutrition ‘fact’, and the assertions in that book aren’t backed up by a huge raft of listed sources, you don’t need to take their word as gospel.

    Only thing worth paying attention to – the food pyramid.

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    • B

      As someone has said below, the food pyramid was based on vested interests of the grain and bread makers. Grain and bread needs to be moved up a couple of levels, with the vegies, fruits, salads on the bottom, the meat and dairy above it and then the grains above that. Anything processed needs to be eaten in moderation….

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      • distracted

        Fair enough B, but we do now have updated versions of the food pyramid which are based on the best evidence we have and supported by organisations like the USDA and the NHMRC.

        If their pyramids have some resemblance to the older ones which were tailored to the pressures of industry lobby groups, it’s because those older ones had enough sense in them to be worthwhile.

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        • Bex

          Just got to pop this in here.
          USDA=United States Department of Agriculture.
          ‘Agriculture’ people!
          Not ‘source of well informed, scienficially based information from neutral organisations’.
          Agriculture to me means vested interests of corn, grain and soy producers (or huge multi-national companies more concerned with making a huge profit than caring about our health).
          Not really a suprise where the bread, pasta and cereal ended up on the pyramid then is it?

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          • distracted

            The USDA makes laws for meat producers, egg producers, dairy producers, vegetable AND fruit producers – not only grain and corn producers.

            The NHMRC (National Health and Medical Research Council) in Australia’s guidelines are similar to those of the USDA. If you check the Dietary Guidelines for All Australians, there is extensive referencing of current research. Much more credible than just a conspiracy theory about a govt dept.

            Perhaps use of the word ‘pyramid’ was a poor choice, because up-to-date guidelines don’t use pyramids. I will amend that to ‘One thing worth paying attention to – govt created current evidence based dietary guidelines’. It just doesn’t have the same ring to it.

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            • Anonymous

              When the USDA did a plated version of the pyramid, there was literally years of campaigning by the industry lobbists. Hundreds of millions of dollars were spent. It’s not a conspiracy theory, it’s just politics. In the US each food industry is massively powerful, corn especially so. In some states everybody is either working for a particular food industry or has a friend or family member who is. In a state like Kansas for example, a change to the food pyramid is huge news. Companies threaten to lay off thousands of employee’s, constituents blast the government and if it’s an election year, suddenly the line is that corn is a miracle food.

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      • Renae

        That’s the only problem with the food pyramid… the “fruit and veg” is not a “max of … serves a day”, it’s an “at least … serves a day”
        As opposed to the others, where it is a max, not a min.
        The “healthy plate” does make more sense… a good rule of thumb for the average person. Your plate should be half veggies, one quarter meat/meat alternatives, and one quarter grains (and grains actually include peas, corn and potatoes too ;) . 2 serves of milk per day, and 2 serves of fruit, and you’re pretty much set. You also need to choose unsaturated fats more often than saturated fats, but that’s pretty easy to figure out.

        Grains ARE good. Your body’s fuel is carbohydrates, and whole grains are one of the best sources of carbs – especially the low GI ones ;)

        (I don’t have a problem with processed food either. Often “processed” food is better for you than the raw stuff!!)

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    • amyspeak

      That’s such a good point, Distracted – there’s so much pseudo-science in the health industry it’s ridiculous. Even most independent studies rarely find a definite truth, it’s more that they find things that are “likely” to have an effect or “could” lead to one. But marketing doesn’t work on maybes so we end up buying a lot of half-truths.

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  2. Saphira

    It should be “eat healthily”, not “healthy”. Apologies, I am an English teacher! Apart from that, this is a fantastic article with which I wholeheartedly agree!

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  3. Kate

    It’s a good thing the old nutritional advice is being thrown out the window. A hell of a lot of it came from in house studies done by brands like Kelloggs, and the actual make-up of the food pyramid was fought over by each food industries lobby. It was a piece of advertising more than a PSA.

    People should just eat what makes their body feel good (not necessarily the same thing as making your brain happy). Personally after I eat a sugary food (including most fruits) I feel hyper and desperate for more, and I hate that out of control feeling more than I like cake. I don’t shy away from carbs, but too many grains make me feel sluggish so I pick and choose my sources. After years of eating low fat, I now eat a lot of fat (nuts,avocado, butter, oils, full fat dairy), and I’m significantly thinner and healthier (a claim which my regular check-ups backup).

    Some people can eat sugar and it doesn’t affect them, like those people who can take one bite of a Mars bar and then leave it in the fridge for 3 days. Some people can eat a ton of carbs and feel fine (though it is interesting that pasta capital of the world, Italy, has an insane amount of people with serious* wheat allergies). If your body still feels great when you eat a certain food group, you may as well keep eating it. But foods shouldn’t come with side effects. If eating a particular food or foods from a certain food group consistently makes you feel bad or just not good, that’s a pretty clear sign that it’s not good for you.

    *By serious I mean the kind that sends you to the hospital doubled over in agony.

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    • B

      Me too! As soon as I switched to eating butter, red meat, olive oil, cheese (along with lots of veggies and salads), I’ve never been this thin as an adult! I don’t feel out of control with my eating anymore and I naturally eat smaller portions. Most days I just subconsciously make pretty good food choices after switching my eating to this (which is what I was raised on back in the good ol’ 80s).
      I got married in December and didn’t even think about having to diet thanks to me being really happy (even after 2 kids) with my body.

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  4. amyspeak

    Oh how I’ve missed these kinds of articles while I was on holidays in paradise (without good internet). Nat, your writing is great!

    I agree that a lot of the info out there is confusing and contradictory. I tend to read about it all then consider how it would fit with what I know about my body/lifestyle.

    I do a lot of cardio, for example, so I know carbs are important for me and I tend to gain weight quickly if I eat a lot of fat, so I go low-fat, high protein most of the time. But I also know people who end up really sluggish if they follow similar principles, so it really does depend on the person.

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  5. Bea

    I find all of the nutso diets out there very confusing too! And as soon as I say I’m on a diet all I can think about is cake, chocolate and carbs. So now I just try to stick to what I know makes me feel good.

    My number one strict rule is NO “TREATS” in the house. I know people say you should have everything in moderation otherwise you go crazy and binge, but that just doesn’t work for me. If there is a block of chocolate in the cupboard I will eat it. Immediately. So it’s better for me to just not be near it.

    There was a cool post in The Happiness Project about this once, has anyone read it? It was about figuring out whether you are an abstainer or a moderator – abstainers have to avoid completely, moderators need to have small amounts of things. I am most definitely an abstainer. If I don’t see it, I don’t want it. I’ll have dessert if we are out, but definitely can’t have unhealthy things at home. Unless it’s Christmas. Consuming a wall of gingerbread house per day is perfectly fine at Christmas. ;0)
    http://thegoogleyear.blogspot.com.au/

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    • InKL

      I’m an abstainer too. It used to be that if it was unopened it would stay that way. Unfortunately, I now open it.

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    • IrishLaura

      I am the sort of person who, if there is no other chocolate in the house, will eat the melts from the pantry that I was meant to be saving for baking. I think that must mean I should be an abstainer too…

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    • Natalia

      That’s very interesting Bea! I’m definitely the same as you – don’t want it if I can’t see it!

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    • Anonymous

      That’s interesting, I am definitely an abstainer. Someone above wrote that they eat one lindt ball a day and for me that would be torture! I want at least half a dozen or none at all. I am happiest when there are no temptations around, the whole thing where they say “have a small treat every day” doesn’t work for me at all.

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  6. Some random

    Pasta is fine, but remember, it’s usually meant to be an entree.

    Quinoa sucks. The worldwide craze for it is ruining the economy of Bolivia and other South American nations where it is grown and causing huge amount of civil strife as farmers battle for land to plant this formerly useless crop. And it tastes of nothing. NOTHING!!!

    Butter is teh awesome.

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    • B

      I *hate* quinoa. And chickpeas (unless it’s food processed to death with butter and garlic). And lentils have to be smothered in something else. I just don’t understand…..

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      • Anonymous

        I love chickpeas. I don’t know why but if I don’t eat them every day I feel a bit off , I get chickpea cravings. They are crap when they’re overcooked though so I soak my own, the canned ones are overcooked and too soft.

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    • Quinoa is good

      Quinoa is good for you. It was never a useless crop. The issue in South America is that quinoa was a basic food staple for people who don’t have a lot of money, and now they’re selling this VERY useful crop to people like us at 5 times (probably 20 times) the price, which means Bolivian/Peruvian people have lost access to a massive part of their diet. Just saying.

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      • Kris2040

        We’ve been having quinoa a bit recently and had been wondering about how growing it and selling it to us has affected the places where it’s from. Thanks for a couple of different viewpoints.

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      • -

        you can source Australian grown quinoa to help combat this problem.

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    • Sarah

      Quinoa is awesome.

      Cook it with almond milk for a nutty version of porridge.

      Or with chicken or veggie stock for a savory version.

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      • Kris2040

        It definitely needs something. Otherwise it is, as Some random says quite rightly, nothing tasting. I cook it once or twice a week, but I wouldn’t call it awesomely amazing. We have it mostly because Mum’s vego and needs the iron and protein.

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        • Anonymous

          That’s the good thing about it, you can add whatever flavours you like and it won’t interfere.

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  7. Anonymoose

    “I don’t care because I genuinely think life is better when cupcakes are involved.”

    Best quote ever. I may tattoo this on myself!

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    • Natalia

      Excellent idea :D

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    • You are what you eat

      I don’t have a tattoo but I have a long scar running down from my belly button ,,,, It’s a memory of a surgery.
      I was young, happy, and I thought rules won’t apply to me…I never cared about healthy eating, although my eating habits were very average. (Maybe too indulgent at times…)
      Yes, one day I ended up in the ER, got diagnosed with a digestive disorder, had a surgery and took almost a year to recover.
      Don’t learn the hard way, eat as healthily as you can, from this moment on,
      This “confusion” is good, it leads to thinking. I was ignorant.

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  8. Sailorgirl

    Omg Nat I totally hear u. I have never been on any fad diets or completely cut anything out as I don’t want to rob my body or nutrients and also know that you’re more likely to go crazy after and stack on all the weight you lost and then some, so I try to just stay away from processed foods and simple carbs, alcohol, junk food and take away, bad sugars and drinks other than water and herbal tea.
    I think the whole FRUIT is bad for you is ridiculous, I think if it’s from the ground and it’s natural then it’s good for you. That said, I only eat 1-2 piece of fruit per day and it’s a waaaaay healthier snack than say, a mars bar. I am totally confused too though and the more I read the more confused I get because everyone seems to have conflicting ideas these days!

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  9. Grace

    We are gluten free! My 3yo is coeliac so we went GF in November 2011. It was difficult in the beginning but now its so easy. She knows to check food and ask if food is GF, she knows alot about food and labelling. She prefers to eat carrots and raw cauliflower but loves a good cheese GF pizza. I found out that I am coeliac too and that 1 in 10 Aussies are coeliac. Makes you wonder if that many people can’t eat gluten why is it in absolutely everything??

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    • Kris2040

      The Coeliac Australia website says 1 in 100. That’s a lot smaller than 1 in 10.
      Either way, there are far more people who don’t have it than do, that’s why there aren’t more gluten free foods around.

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      • Coeliac

        The coeliac society of Australia actually says that 1 in 100 Australians are diagnosed as coeliac but it is estimated that 1 in 10 actually have the disease. This is due to lack of doctors testing for it and the difficulties associated with getting a positive test.

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        • Anonymous

          And people like me. I’ve never been diagnosed with coeliac disease but think I have it and don’t eat gluten. My grandmother had digestion problems for years and then died of bowel cancer at 62. My mother has been diagnosed with coeliac disease and has been in and out of hospital for years because she doesn’t stick to the diet properly. When I eat wheat I feel like I’ve been hit by a truck, all I want to do is sleep and I feel that way for a few days. I’ve also had digestion problems for years and was hospitalized a couple of times during my childhood with digestion problems. Now that I’ve stopped eating wheat I feel like a new person and my digestion problems have disappeared. I see no reason to put myself through a colonoscopy just for an official diagnosis.

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    • Jayne

      Gluten is in everything because wheat is a ‘staple’ crop!

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      • -

        Gluten shouldn’t be found in ice cream though, which is where I’ve found it in an artificial additive before.

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        • Kris2040

          Why is it in there? Does it help the consistency or flavour or something? I’ve never made icecream, but if it’s based on a custard, it may have flour in it from that?

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          • Lulu

            It might be sugar in the form of wheat glucose – if you check confectionary packets, it’s very common.

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            • Kris2040

              I actually thought maybe as a thickener – (wheaten) cornflour.

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            • Erin

              Glucose derived from wheat isn’t an issue for people with coeliac disease. It has been broken down to it’s simplest form so it no longer has an inflammatory effect.

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          • Zoe

            It would be for texture i think. The more you kneed bread the ‘chewier’ the finished prod is as the protein strands get stretched. I guess it would make ice cream seem creamier.

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            • Coeliac

              Gluten is a protein and as such aids in binding food together. This is often why it is added to food – to act as a binding agent.

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    • amyspeak

      We’re actually very lucky in Australia Grace – there are whole sections of the supermarket with GF products and a lot of restaurants that cater for it. Not so in Canada (where my sister who is gluten intolerant lives). It’s so hard there, and similar in America, where food regulation standards are less strict.

      I’m not gluten free, but my Mum is and I’ve got into the habit of checking ingredients just in case she comes to visit. I can’t believe how it finds its way into things like ice cream, soy sauce and even grated cheese!

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      • Kris2040

        In grated cheese to keep it separate?

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        • amyspeak

          Yeah, that’s right Kris. It’s usually in the ingredients as “anti-caking agent”.

          What I found interesting was that when I made pizza for a group recently, we did GF and non-GF versions with whole mozzarella and pre-grated cheese respectively. Both were supposed to be the same weight (like 200g I think), but when I grated the whole mozzarella there was so much more. I wonder if it really did weigh the same?

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          • Kris2040

            Well, if the pregrated stuff has flour added to stop it sticking together, that’d add to the weight, I suppose. At least it’s easy to get around – just grate your own cheese!

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  10. Sare

    Everyone’s body is different, and people should eat accordingly. After you try a few different ways of eating you know what makes your body feel best.

    For example, for me, if I eat too much pasta and bread I feel sluggish and I don’t seem to have as much energy. If I don’t eat enough fat I end up getting hungry more often, and never feeling satisfied from meals. If I don’t eat enough veggies, my stomach feels upset and I start to feel a bit run down.

    So, generally, I make sure I eat food that makes me feel the best. That means ditching the pasta, eating more cheese and eggs and salads. Of course, I still eat cookies and fruit and whatever else, but I just know if I *only* eat that, I’ll feel it.

    Just listen to your body, it’ll tell you what it wants.

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    • Sailorgirl

      I agree with you. Except I sometimes have to tell my body to “shut up” when it says it wants chocolate at 9am! or another bowl of ice cream.. hehe

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  11. Larz

    I live by one simple rule- Everything in moderation :D

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  12. @JohnJamesOZ

    I try and keep it simple…

    1 – Avoid process foods

    2 – Eat whatever I want that isn’t processed

    3 – Just don’t eat too much

    Easy-peasy….

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    • distracted

      You must be from the school of Michael Pollan :) “Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants”

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      • @JohnJamesOZ

        Except I still eat a fair amount of meat…

        :)

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        • distracted

          Right – I am now liking teabag’s correction above “Mostly plants garnished with steak’ :D

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    • Paul - The Kind Little Blogger

      I adopt (1) and (3). As for (2), nah. I’m not that much of a hedonist. I choose not to exploit sentient beings.

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  13. Anon

    My mother sounds similar to yours. She’s obsessed with David Gillespie and her lifestyle is sugar-free… But her fat consumption is now OTT (in my opinion) because according to Gillespie, animal fat is great for you and people don’t eat enough. She talks incessantly about the wonders of coconut oils and the evils of sugar. The latest thing she has discovered is the evil of grains and ANY food comprised of grain, and so has banned all grains from her diet.

    It is very hard to keep up.

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    • Kris2040

      This is the blurb from David Gillespie’s own website:

      “David Gillespie is a recovering corporate lawyer, co-founder of a successful software company and consultant to the IT industry.

      He is also the father of six young children (including one set of twins). With such a lot of extra time on his hands, and 40 extra kilos on his waistline, he set out to investigate why he, like so many in his generation, was fat.

      He deciphered the latest medical findings on diet and weight gain and what he found was chilling. Being fat was the least of his problems. He needed to stop poisoning himself.”

      Not one mention of any training at all in food, food science, or anything remotely linked.

      You might want to show your Mum this site:
      http://davidgillespiesbigfatlies.com/

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      • Allie

        Yes – i love that they say he “deciphered” the latest medical findings on dietetics – so, all of us out there with a science degree have clearly wasted our time, there is obviously NO need to be trained to understand medical research findings.

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        • Kris2040

          Yes, that was my favourite part too. Clearly it took a lawyer/it consultant to “decipher” it all. What have food scientists been doing all this time?
          He reminds me of Meryl Dorey and her ilk. Who am I kidding, he is her ilk. Just focused on something else.

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          • Live and Learn

            Wow, that’s a bit tough, Kris2040.
            He is not endangering lives. If all anyone ever did was follow his advice then they would (maybe) lose weight and (maybe) be healthier. I fail to see how they could be worse off. You can buy his book for about $15 so he’s not fleecing anyone with expensive signups either. And you wouldn’t even have to buy his book I don’t think. It’s all online.

            I’ve never understood the anti DG sentiment. He’s not advocating anything other than eating less sugar & processed food.

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          • Katie

            Have you read the new book ‘Fat chance’, by Dr Robert Lustig? He is a paediatric endocrinologist. I dare say he’s qualified to decipher the latest medical findings too…

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      • Paula

        Actually many people have benefitted from what David Gillespie has shared. If you want a scientific explanation for why sugar is bad for you, watch this video, it’s from Dr Robert Lustig UCSF Professor of Pediatrics in the Division of Endocrinology. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

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        • Kris2040

          Youtube does not equal a reference.

          I like the guy’s site I linked above. It’s not a new thing to say that most western people need to eat less sugar. And of course if you are overweight/obese changing your diet, which is probably not the best, will result in weight loss.
          That doesn’t mean that David Gillespie is the guru of weight loss. It just means that people changed their diets to something with less calories and lost weight. It’s not rocket surgery.

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          • Kate

            I stopped eating sugar 2 years ago, and since then my calorie intake has gone way up (I know I was eating about 1200 a day back then and I’d say it’s more like 1800-2000 now), but I’ve lost weight (again, I don’t weigh myself so I can’t say exactly how much, but at least 2 dress sizes). I run four times a week, always have, but my activity levels haven’t changed.

            Calories in/calories out isn’t something that’s true of everyone. Assuming I’m eating somewhat normally eg. staying somewhere between 1000-3000 calories a day, my weight depends very much on what I eat, not how much of it I eat. Current research on obesity is backing this up. For many people calories are just a small part of the equation.

            What David Gillespie’s saying isn’t new, in fact much of his book is about the findings of others. It’s not like he’s trying to pretend he had a radical new idea. But in a sea of ‘low-fat, no carb’ diet plans, he was the only prominent person focusing on sugar. If it was a commonly held view that sugar was worse than fat or carbs, his book wouldn’t have gotten such a huge amount of attention. And the fact that there are a million low fat high sugar products on supermarket shelves shows that his book isn’t just commonsense. People really think that crap will help them get healthy/keep thin.

            Give his book a read before you judge it. It’s not preachy (this is a guy who was drinking a ton of diet soft drink whilst weaning himself off sugar after all, he’s not pretending to be some perfect guru), it’s evidence based and it’s not the strict diet plan you might imagine.

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            • Kris2040

              He’s only prominent because of his sugar book. And he has nothing to do with nutrition, dietetics, or science. He is selling himself as something new having “deciphered” standing medical opinion. As you say, it’s nothing new to say “Most people could probably do to eat less sugar”. The zealots that are on this guy’s bandwagon are pretty, well, nuttily zealous though. I stand by my comment that he’s a quack.
              People do think that crap will get them healthy and lose weight, but I’m fairly sure if you asked any health professional, food scientist or even personal trainer over the last 30 years, they’d tell you “eat less crap, do exercise”. He sells it as revolutionary, but I’ve never heard a doctor advocate high sugar intake.

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            • Not true. Gary Taubes was around way before Gillespie, he just isn’t Australian.

              I’ve read all of Gillespie’s books. I’ve also done the no sugar thing. Having been on both sides of the fence, I can say the book isn’t too preachy, it really isn’t.

              HOWEVER, his website, his followers, his demeanor when on TV shows being interviewed is preachy. The people on his FB are almost cult like in their “no sugar” obsession. I once dared to say that the no sugar thing absolutely sucked and some of his followers told me that I “should die” and that I was “jealous that David, a fellow lawyer was gaining prominence and I was going nowhere as a lawyer”.

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            • Kate

              Look, I’ve studied nutrition, and if you have basic reading comprehension it’s a breeze. I learnt nothing, I had to unlearn a lot of total crap at the end of it (please, please, please, unless you are an elite athlete, and even then in most cases, don’t eat 9 serves of grains a day. That’s insane), and half the class had pretty severe ED’s. Someone being ‘educated’ in nutrition gives me no added faith in their opinion.

              If the man had done his own experiments and based his book entirely on that, I’d agree with you. But he used the research of many food scientists and put it in the one place. I’ve read many of his sources in full, and the data isn’t hard to understand. You don’t need to be a scientist, you just need a functioning brain and basic (highschool level) understanding of human biology.

              Most of the research Gillespie used had been completely ignored for decades, in favour of pushing the no/low carb angle. The whole area has never been studied the way fat or carbs has, there’s just bits and pieces of research that don’t add up to a whole, so yes, I’d say decipher would be an apt description of what he did. That is, putting all the pieces together to form a whole picture.

              Right now there are food scientists working on diet shakes that will be promoted by dieticians, PT’s and even some doctors as being ‘healthy’. I wouldn’t put so much faith in health professionals, a piece of paper doesn’t mean your always right.

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            • Live and Learn

              Well said, Kate.
              I would have to attribute our complete revolution in eating habits to DG and his book. It opened our eyes. That’s all. No cult, no worship, no preaching. (I mustn’t be going to the right places on the internet!)

              And it didn’t cost me $200 to sign up to an internet hand holder either.

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            • Kris2040

              Thanks for proving my point about the fans, Kate and Live and Learn. Cheers.

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            • Kris2040

              My point is – any method of making you take more notice of what you’re eating is probably going to result in weight loss. Keeping a food diary will do it. Following one eating plan or another will do it. This lawyer says “Sugar is teh ebil” and it’s a revolution? Please.

              You guys do realise that by cutting sugar you’re going low carb right?

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            • Kate

              Well that was unnecessary.

              I read the book. I read the research the book references and a lot it doesn’t. I tried it, and it worked for me. As someone who has actually read the book and tried following the basic principles, I wanted to address some of your comments.

              I’m not an idiot blindly following some randoms diet plan. There’s no need to be condescending. The book was simply a catalyst that inspired me to dig deeper. I read the research of dozens of scientists, it made sense to me so I gave it a go and was happy with the results. That’s it. I’m not out there telling anyone else to buy the book or quit sugar, but if you’re going to deride it at least be fully informed.

              Also no sugar doesn’t mean low-carb. I don’t know why you would assume that. Certainly you can combine the two principles and many people do, but you don’t have to. The main thing to avoid if you quit sugar is fructose. I eat bread (supermarket white bread is loaded with sugar, but most rye and sourdough breads have miniscule sugar contents), I eat grains, I eat yoghurt, I eat a ton of vegies. I’m not eating a high carb diet, but I’m certainly not restricting my intake the way someone on Atkins would be.

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            • Live and Learn

              I agree again Kate, (esp in reply to Kris2040) and wrote as much in a post that has now disappeared because I tried to edit it. :(

              Not sure where this will show up as the reply button isn’t underneath the post I want to reply to.

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        • Of course sugar is bad for you. Processed food is bad for you. Sugar is in most processed food. It’s a preservative. David Gillespie is not saying anything new.

          He and his merry band of followers are so preachy, in your face and forceful, you’d swear your were listening to a baptist preacher “Oh laaaawwwdd, gawd is great, you’ll go to the DEVIL if you don’t believe, you non believers are EVIL” (just replace the religious references with sugar).

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      • Anon

        Kris2040: I just had a look at the link. The science may be there, but I think he’d be wise to run the spell & grammar checker every now and then!

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